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i am 4 months off of suboxone. i had tapered down for a year before i went off, i did the thomas recipe the magnesium 500-1000mg works best to calm you and while nothing helps the insomnia it does end, the rls i got my dr to prescribe quinine for that if you cant or dont want to it is also found in tonic water.. I am still not back to normal i was on it for 4 years, it will take time the first 3 months i didnt want to do much but i forced myself to just get out and be with others. it can be done people.. the slow taper wins this one.. good luck to everyone and there are tapering schedules all over the internet. ask your doctor or look one up and don't go with one that makes big jumps..if youre withdrawing right now look up Thomas recipe and don't give up .. it can be done.. if i can do it anyone can..
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im 4 months off no skin crawls didnt have that wd thankfully. i was on suboxone for over 4 years(i was given a high dose but i almost burnt the house down ,nodding out so i kept the same rx but only took one film a day.(studies show youre brain only uses 4 mgs of subs., everything else just builds up and changes your entire brain not ust the chemistry.. you can google it) .. . i too took a year to taper off. im a decade younger not sure if that's why? but I am so thankful im off that drug and ill never go back...
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Is anyone there? Iv been taking small amounts of subprime for over a year without knowing anything about the drug itself. I finally realized It wasn't just fun anymore! Stopped cold turkey! Sad part is that nobody knows! Not my husband or family. I have nobody to talk to, have no idea what's happening to my body or mind. I'm very scared and alone, with so many questions!! Found this site just by looking for anwsers. I see nobody has been here for a year, so don't know if anyone is gonna talk to me?! Am I gonna be ok? Feels like I'm dying! And worse yet, have to lie to everyone about why I'm so sick!! Am I dying? Will I be ok? How long does this last? Can anyone help me?
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Well, here’s the dirty little secret that you only find by reading the “product data insert” and doing a little math. Suboxone has a mean (average) half-life of thirty-seven hours but it is prescribed on a twenty-four hour basis. Generally, most opiates have an average half-life of only four hours. Simple math tells you that half the drug is still in your system after thirty-seven hours, so if you take another dose in twenty-four hours you are adding drug to you body’s total serum level. This paradox is vaguely explained in the product data sheet. It explains that you eventually reach a “saturation ceiling”, a blood serum level where any additional dosage cannot be used by the body, the extra being wasted. So, if you take 8mgs/day, every twenty-four hours, you have only excreted 2.59mgs the first day, so when you take 8mgs more you now have a blood serum level of 13.41 mgs. The buildup becomes exponential from there until you become saturated. This phenomenon is the reason why you can taper almost immediately, saving you money with no ill effect. However, if you want to quit Suboxone by tapering, you must take into account the thirty-seven hour half-life and forget about dosing every twenty-four hours. You must reduce your blood serum level over time in order for a timed reduction to be effective. If you try to taper by halving and forth-ing until you have the smallest of partitions using the twenty-four hour schedule you will never have reduced your blood serum level at all. You will have the illusion that you will have minimal effects when you jump but you will get the big surprise. You should have saved your money and jumped at 8mgs/day…there would have been be no difference.
Here’s another dirty little secret…reducing you blood serum level by taking into account the long half-life has its own misery. As your blood serum level actually drops there comes a point that saturation no longer occurs so the withdrawals will start at some point after that. The longer you take to reduce your blood serum level the prolonged the misery. Once your body falls out of saturation you will start to have some withdrawal symptoms, how bad depends on the person and how long they took Suboxone, how obese they are, how old they are and what state of health they are in, all are factors. Remember, your body was saturated, each person has their own dosage level where they became saturated, so reducing the dosage based on half-life may require time to reach a symptomatic level and the symptoms may be tolerable to some degree. Naloxzone , the ingredient in Suboxone that prevents the use of opiates, only lasts for hours, which means you can manage those symptoms with some mild painkiller like Vicoden. That’s like robbing Peter to pay Paul but most people who have successfully jumped have used something to minimize the misery but only when absolutely necessary.
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The depression from gettin off subs suck. It's like everything that bad in your life is magnified by a thousand. Plus u feel like . An vein around ppl that have no idea what your feeling like but your still trying to act normal like everything is ok. I've been snorting a quarter of sobutex for about 8 months. I've messed wit opiates off an on for sbout 6years now. I want to stop so bad and try so hard. But everytime it's a horrible feeling. And life is to hard to deal with. I'm a street user so I don't have a doctor to help with withdraw. I just know this ain't the life I want. I want to stop. And am goin to. It's jus the amount of time and everything that come with withdraw is unbearable. And hard to get through. Everything that you were covering up with your drug use hits u like a load of bricks. Thats very tough on top of already feeling like complete sh*t. What can I do to make this better for me naturally???
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