The secret to getting off Suboxone is:

Maybe I'll just stick to pot to help with withdrawals. It never did me wrong and always was a help through hard times. Just a FYI to any of you living in astate that supports it we can all definitely get a medical marijuana card now.

Erin / Done - I told my wife tonight about everything, Everything from 20 norco daily = Sub 14 days = Back to Norco. She cried and held me and said "you will beat this no matter what this time and I love you no matter what" Of course, I cried like a baby. That was hard stuff to do. She wants me to go see my doctor on Monday (she's his nurse) and said I can't right now, I want to fight on this on my own and give it all I got. If I fail at that, I will see him. The practice she works I see another doctor that has been RX'ing me the Norco all this time. I got permanently switched to head doctor in the practice which is a good thing. She had NO idea my 'old' doctor has been RX'ing me the Norco this whole time. 

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Basically I told her I wasn't trying to hide anything from her, it's just the addict in me trying to 'get by' day by day. She was concerned from day 1 originally back in August when I saw a sub doctor and how I acted for the week. At the time, I was taking 8 norco daily with some tramadol and that fool sub doctor grouped me in the IV heroin user and put me on 16mg daily.

So now, it's really GAME-ON. With everybody finally getting better in my family from this dang stomach bug that hit us, I finally feel mentally better getting that off my shoulders and laying it out. I said worst case I might need to go a rehab and she said I wouldn't qualify for one (insurance wise) because I am not taking enough. Apparently you have to snorting stuff or taking hardcore opiates. I dunno. I do feel better, but I have a 3 days to cut down and quit. Also, she said most doctors there RX tramadol for 30 days for hydrocodone withdrawal and some blood pressure patch catapress?

That's my update and a big one to me.

Done - I WISH my state was medical MJ state, I haven't touched that stuff since college.

Erin / Done - thanks again for all your support, daily updates. It means a lot to me to talk to you all about it, it truly helps. I will keep you posted.

Gibson, Thats so good that you got it all out. on the forums and in real life. that will be so therapeutic to you and will go along way. update on me aka #3 Done :) i started getting the classic symptoms and wussed out and ate 3 perc 5's at around 6pm and felt great all night. I know i can't do that forever but its an old script of 60 and should last me quite some time. My current goal is to take these percs until i knock that sub out of my receptors. and then for those 3-5 days of opiate withdrawal crub it with the kratom and then walk away. From there it is a 90 day period to repair all the receptors in my brain so that means even though im clean i will have no energy aka lethargy and lack of motivation and overall depressed state. Now i know all this sounds bad but once you hit that 90 day mark you go into regession and all those old feelings come back and i can't wait. I was never that bad to begin with never did more than half a 30 for fun and smoked weed. sad to think this is how far it goes before you realize it. My younger brother is also in the same boat as me so its not even about me while im dealing with this. I know if i don't create a golden parachute he wont jump. Here goes everything.

 

Awwwww Gibson, Im so happy for you! Im sure telling your wife, at an absolute minimum, will hold you more accountable than hiding. Your welcome! Talking to you guys is helping me as well. Although, I dont feel like Im accomplishing too much toward quitting and afraid of my "cycle". One time I tried to tell my boyfriend of 7 yrs. I told him I felt terrible and since I had 5 days off from work I would be trying and feeling beyond shitty all weekend. I said it must be b/c of taking pills (as if it was a surprise). He's always known I take them "occassionally but been unaware the extent). He is the type of person that wont even take asparin b/c he hates how people rely on pills in todays society. I agree with that but also know some people justifiably do need a magic pill, though, Im not 1 of em. That day was the day after my "last" OP taken. It was a couple mos ago. I was 2 wks free of sub. He looked at me horrifiied and he nonchalantly said, well why dont you just take something if you feel crappy? Then, ended up arguing w/me and I caved almost within an hr of him getting home from work. Guess what? Since then, he has called me a drug addict in a few arguments. Thats f*****g rediculous. I dont act like a drug addict in any other way other than the mental anguish we all know so well, which Ive never even told anyone about till this forum. Great. Real supportive. I would never ever act that way to anyone. So, yah, I doubt Ill be telling him anything. Choice - sounds like a great plan. Glad you found a plan that will work for you! Im trying not to take too much OP. So far successful. However, Ill be out before I can get more, unless I can take half of one or one every day. Then I could get more to take longer. IDK what to do still. Done, Im in MA so MJ not legal but we can tell its on its way. At 1st it was changed to a fine for under an oz and now its been approved medicinally. I do get herb anyways. Anytime I quit OP's in the past, MJ really helped me through.

HEY WTF happened to my paragraphs in my last post LOL - sorry for the eye f**k

What do you do for work DONE?

I hope we all get this accomplished, I know we can and push through the aftermath of quitting. Any other RX that was ever put in front of me, never had a compulsion or anything remotely too it take it like opiates. I see people strung out on Xanex/Klonopin and no way I could do it....Something about opiates that grips us for some reason. I just wish I had that discipline and attitude towards other stuff like that. Last night, I goofed and took 3 at the same time. I was reaching more or less just to feel better after the stomach bug... Of course after I took it, I felt (mentally) like c**p and fool, like "here we go again"

I can say its not going to be fun starting Monday, but I really do not have a choice. I will never take sub again, never. I look back on those 14 days I took it and just blah, zombie and my wife asking me "you look depressed" more then once.

Even if I went to the hospital/ER for opiate w/d, it's SO-SO rampant around here and I be treated like everyone else. I dreamed and wished they would just admit me 1-2 days and 'take care of me' while the w/d happened. Not sure why I think that - like it's some miracle of some sort.

We are all in this together with game plans, hopefully we can stick to it and move on and keep posting on our PROGRESS. I have had 2 close friends (old friends from back in the day) OD-Pass Away on Opiates and Xanax, they have kids etc. You figure that would 'wake me up' and say get your sh*t in gear and get out of this rut, but it hasn't. I am trying and trying my hardest. Minute by minute, hour by hour - stuff will change.

Day #4 Anyone here know when the hard part kicks in? I was on 1mg for 2 weeks then .5 for the last 4 days before the jump. I do feel kinda crappy my sneezes come in twos and my legs have been going a little haywire. Hylands reftful legs clonidine and 3 perk 5's and i am brand new. I know that its going to creep up on me when i least expect it. I just wish i had an idea. maybe tonight? tomorrow? im off until Wed. Wish me luck! 

Gibson: I'm so proud of you for telling your wife, and I'm glad she was supportive. It really helps they say the first step is admitting it. I'm quitting Monday as well we can do it I know we'll make it.

Erin: sorry to hear about your guy that sucks do you have anyone else to help you through? I bartend and not to toot my own horn but I'm a real good one so all night people yell my name for drinks. Which sucks when I'm trying to get clean.

Choice: if your not having a hard time why are you taking 3 perks? If you have time to do it and it's not that bad why not just try to stayclean? Maybe your one of the people that doesn't have bad withdrawals. When I was at four days I wasn't moving except to go to the bathroom to throw up and most of time that's where I would lay. 

Done - thanks, really appreciate it. That's cool, we are both starting on Monday! Physical part I can deal with, the mental is kicker for me. Whatever norcos I have left Sunday night, I am flushing them before I go to bed. I can't have them around. I would have flushed over 100 of them out of 150 script, mentally that makes me proud. The working part will stress me out and my crutch won't be there. I am at home all week working except Wednesday, so I won't have to worry about being at work the first two days at least.

Erin - you got us, I always check on notifications, so if there are hard times, I will be around and sure Done will be too.

Choice: Agree with Done, get rid of the perc's ASAP. The temptation at some point will be great and you might give-in, DONT!. Been there, done that and you start the cycle all over. It won't be a cake walk by any means, but you gotta do it, you have 3 days off of it, so keep it going.

I know what you guys mean and this was not plan A in my book. But subs are so fricken evil the way i see it. Suboxone is like a category 5 hurricane slow moving and destroys/uproots everything eventually. Perks are like a category 5 tornado which is obviously still deadly but it's over so fast the healing process starts a lot earlier. I don't have the mental strength to deal with this for 2 weeks straight. And i have been on subs for over a year so i know there is no dodging that bullet if i do decide to bite it. Ugh contemplating getting some kind of cleanse product from gnc. Anyone here of puridone? $500 to stop withdrawal lol gotta be a scam. When i clicked on it someone was private  chatting me and telling me its been around for years. I was like if it has been around that long how come i never heard of it? And im constantly seeing withdrawal ease on the side of my screen. Such bs.

I have tried the Withdrawal Ease a couple of years ago - 101% joke. Waste of money. I have heard of the Puridone, same line of BS. Anyone trying to make a buck of desperate people knowing this country is loaded with people in our position. Oh, it's a 'Dietary Supplement" if that doesn't throw up any red flags. I will never touch sub again, your analogy hits right on target.

I also will never touch subs again. I know i shouldn't even be using Percocet but i was unfortunate enough to be on methadones for about 5 months off the street and knew in my heart how bad/dirty it made me feel and used almost the same process i am using now. Only difference this time is i quit smoking ciggs/weed over a year ago so im not constantly going outside to change my body temperature. I am honestly motivated to reach this goal and be clean forever. Smoking ciggs is more addicting than heroine so i have heard? i never tried it so i can not really say. But if i can quit that why am i struggling so bad with this? i think the only thing im missing right now according the thomas recipe is L-tyrosine. I should probably not use the perks anymore so after my last dosage tonight at 6pm i am going to try and go on without them.

As we can all say - it's easier to quit percs then sub. Anybody would endure 4-5 days of w/d from percs then 2 months of w/d from sub.

Choices - I can see you have the motivation and the heart to do what's right this time, stick with it and make yourself proud.

We are all in the same boat, learning and understanding how to overcome all of this and be free from drugs.

Read Done's posts, she outlines day by day how everything plays out.

Gibson,

I did read all of Done's posts and was somewhat inspired by how it was done. and i have been through Percocet withdrawal before and although i may be "awakening the beast" in myself, i still feel like it would be easier to endure knowing the light is less than a week away rather than a month lol. i have been on a weird pattern since i quit falling asleep @ around 2 am and waking up @ 7am popping hylands restful leg under my toungue and 1 clonidine and that so far has put me back to sleep every day now.

Now i know the subs have built up in my system so for all i know the worst part is still on its way here. today is day #5 with no sub at all and i have to go back to work on wed. hopefully these perks will dampen whatever the sub was about to do to me and then use the kratom for the 4-5 days and then walk away.  

 

I am doing this for myself, but i am also doing it for my brother and my friend who are both also addicted to subs. For my parents because they did a good job raising me and dont deserve this. For my 2 older sisters my niece and nephews who look up to me and just GOD in general. I have not been true to myself and it does show. Remember that radiance that used to radiate from our body's when we smiled? I am willing to go up against the devil himself. This is a fight to the death and thats how it must be treated.