The secret to getting off Suboxone is:

It seems like a 'perfect storm' is forming in front of me, I can see it coming. Work the last 3 days was super stressful (year end financial c**p) that I have to do. I always dread this time of the year because of work. Mainly though, my upbringing until I left home for school. We went from VERY well off to poor in the matter of 2 years (10-12 yrs old at the time) my parents got a divorce and my mom never worked until that happened. She was cranking 50-60 hrs a week to keep me and my 2 sisters with a roof over our head. The divorce thing really messed me up mentally. I didn't see my dad for 1 year after that happened. When my grandpa/dad passed away within 14 days of each other, it seemed like everything that was bottled in my childhood came out and then some. With my ankle busted/drugs/ and finishing school (finally in 5 years) lol, I found the love of my life, country girl, I am from the city (Chicago) and it was perfect. 11 years married with 2 kids: 9 yrd old and 17 month old. Anyhow, I at the crossroads right now. I feel if I told her what's going on, she might flip. 3 times now this c**p has happened. Last time, I admitted I am an 'addict' and 1st time I cried in front of her excluding the kids being born and getting married. Emotionally, I feel like a total 101% mess. I figured out a plan, final plan that is. I can't go on right now with the sub, not this time of year with Christmas and work c**p. Going to do the 2 week norco deal, then subs for 3-4 days and that's it. What happens after that, I don't know. I pray every night that something positive will come out of this. I have a million thoughts running through my head. The past is the past and can't change that. Looking forward, after the norco and sub again, I am going to tell her what's going on Junk thing is, I have no one now to talk to in person about this, all my friends are either moved away, or on drugs, totally out of touch with all of them. Going solo on this is a challenge in itself. This board helps a lot, just need to attempt this again and do it right. Whatever happens after this attempt: final straw with norco/sub, never touching it again. I see my regular doc in 2 weeks and telling him no more RX for pain meds. I really do not need them for physical pain, pure mental pain. I am a dang good actor by playing off everything is AOK.... The weekend, you all have a good one! John

That sounds like a good plan. Maybe even just jumping off the pills instead of getting on the suboxone again. When you withdrawal if you just take a piece to sleep for 3 days you should still come off of it. That's what I did to come off perks but always relapsed with in the next week because of the tired feeling. I honestly can't believe I've made it a month with withdrawals. I know it's because I have support this time around. 

Done - thanks for the advice, I will go that route and see how it plays out. I am going to pick up my script today and start tomorrow. I never thought I would pick it up, but things change and HOPEFULLY for the better. The last 2 weeks have been an eye opener for me. Sub is just an ODD RX on how it reacts with me at least. Emotions are overbearing.

Should I just wait a couple days to start? I know this sub junk is in my system and don't want to get sick.

Crappy, cold, wet day here. Anything is better then this stuff. My wife wanted to go to city for Christmas shopping, might as well and get something accomplished today instead of wondering what's going on in my head.

I have to pull a black ops to go get my script, which is a 40 mile round trip. Hopefully stuff improves.

Man alive, this board is invaluable

I'm not 100% on how long you have to wait Erin probably knows more about the switch off then I do. I think it's 24 hrs or you'll get sick. I'm sure you can find that answer some where in this thread. Good luck man.

I took two norco today and feel better. I don't feel sick, feel normal. Do you think after taking sub for 14 days that would not get me sick?

I can eat normally again and socialize with my family.

Erin, if you are out there, can you shed some light on this?

Hey - Not sure I get the question for some reason LOL. Sorry maybe you said more in a diff post? When were you feeling sick? Do you mean from switching too soon and you were just nervous on that? From what Ive read and my experience I can even take pills the same day after sub. People are only at risk for getting the Precipitated WD's from the opposite. Going off pills to sub is when that happens. I think it can only happen to people who aren't addicted to sub. If that's what you mean?

Sorry, typing on my phone. I took norco this afternoon and evening (total of 2) and had 1.5mg of sub this morning, feel fine, normal for once.

Does this mean (by chance I hope) that I am not addicted to the sub or does it make a difference?

I feel fine, actually great... No more sub type feeling.

Thanks for chiming in, appreciate your time

Hey there - IDK really. You can interchange subs w pills any time. You dont get cross tolerance but you dont get sick. It cld be your addicted to sub now and you are just keeping WD's at bay b/c you have opiates in system. It cld be you feeling the sub b/c of the 3 day half life. I know its not b/c you took norco's. As in, b/v ypu're still hokked on those in particular or opiates. Im sorry to say, I think most likely you're on the sub now. BUT if you take your norcos you wont be. You didnt take the subs long. You could prob quit sub now and as long as you have a lil norco help (but not take em enough to get re-hooked on those) you may not have many WD's at all. Same principal as taking them for up to 10 days. 14 isnt much longer. I hope this helps in some small way. I love pills. The mind is a powerful thing. Make your mind up on how you want it and roll w/that mentality. You''ll be fine. No prob on the time. I hope I can help anyone w/my useless drug expereinces lol. :)

Erin - that's my final plan. 2 weeks of norco and keep 5 around, throw the rest out and see if I use it to sleep on. If that does not work, sub for 3 days and stop and whatever comes at me, so be it.

Last evening, I went to my wife's work party, all doctors and nurses. Part of me just wanted reach across the table to my doctor and say HELLLO! Let me tell you about my situation. The meds you have Rx'd me for years, this is what it's doing to me right now! I laid low and played like everything was great. Doctor's have some serious ego's - big time, especially outside of their work/practice. Body Mechanics; that's what they are too me.

Appreciate the help, I will post daily just like Done and see how this works out. Hopefully like her posts, it will help someone else.

I wish it was sunny and 90 out.. Instead it's 40 and raining. Chicago land in winter time stinks.

Took 3 norco today total. Felt fine, got a little nausea this afternoon from it, not sure if it's mixing with the sub. I do feel normal, but tired as all get out today. Hopefully Monday will be better.

ERIN / DONE: if I took sub for 14 days, when do you think I will be in the clear from sub, like completely out of my system? Last I took any was yesterday morning, 1mg.

Thanks again for your help and have a great Sunday evening!
John

Doctors do suck! I had tonsilidas ( don't know if I spelled that right) for a year no insurance to get them removed and the doctors kept filling me with pain killers. It took years to find one to help and turns out they made it worse.

#31 took 2 Vic's today for work wish I didn't get them. Had the worst stomach ache this morning I think it was the Chinese food. I really can't eat much of anything that isnt boring. 

# 32 ended up taking a little less than 2 1/2 Vic's yesterday.  They are 5 mg I broke them in half thalf into thirds losing a good portion of them from cutting. I ended up taking tiny little chips of them throughout the day. Took the last chip 3 hours before bed. Had sex and slept for 6 hrs straight waking up with my alarm which was a first. Popped right up feeling pretty good it's weird I feel normal not tired and out of it I feel normal. I'm worriedI because what I did yesterday its all going to creep up on me soon. Going to try not to think about it it's my day off so can't take anything. I'll let you know how it goes.

Done - I think you will be fine. Any urge, go for a walk.

Last night, I slept maybe 2 hours tops..RLS and couldn't get comfortable at all.

Last time I took sub was Saturday morning.

I took 2 norco so far today and feel normal, but have big bags under my eyes, not healthy looking at all.

Hopefully I can sleep tonight because last night was not fun.

I justread your question from yesterday I think maybe a week or 2 you should be good since you only took it for a small amount of time. I'd wake up every morning and wait an hour to wake up see how you feel. If you don't take to much norco it might not cause to much problems. No one can really say for sure everyone is different. Good luck man

Appreciate the advice, that's what I will do going forward. 10 more days to go is my cap, but I will check day by day. Last dang thing I want to do is get re-hooked on norco. Merry go Round

I was reading up on other things, sub stays in your system quite a while. I read someone was taking it for four years and took 6 months to feel normal, that's insane. She was only taking hydro's too. 4 years = no way.