The secret to getting off Suboxone is:

Been SUPER sick last 2 days now. My whole family got it. Some stomach bug. I took 4 norco yesterday and RLS bigtime around 4AM this morning. Sucks period. Hope everything is going well with everyone. I feel terrible, very bad and have to work today. Yesterday was the first sick day I have taken in 5 years.

Erin - do you plan on going back on sub for a couple of days and then stopping? I found out yesterday, I apparently rehooked myself on norco. SO pissed off at myself. I thought I was in the clear until I got sick. My wife and I laid in bed ALL day yesterday sick off our butts and thought that would be a good start to STOPPING... 4AM rolls around, w/d hitting me bigtime. cold/hot and RLS. It's been a little less then a week now since I stopped sub, do you think that stuff is still in my system OR is it the Norcos now.. I feel so bad in so many ways. Depressed as heck over all of this. I even took 3 norcs (At the same dang time) just to feel ok since I have to work. It helped alot, but I let myself down doing that.

Erin / Done- Wonder if I should just go to the hospital and ask for help. Or a Rehab. I am so fed up with stuff!~!!!!!!

Hey guys - My stupid ass ended up taking OP even though I didnt feel shitty at all yesterday. No sub but whats it matter then anyways. I did take 1/4 of what I woulda usually taken. IDK Gibson, I guess its just most likely the norco but it could always be a lil of the sub too. Theres no way in hell you'll get the long drawn out WD's from sub after only taking for 2 wks but it prob still is around now if you've been on norcos for a wk only.

I know personally, when I switch to pills I can clearly tell when the sub is out of my system after a few days b/c I get sick right when I wake up like usual w/any of those pills. When on sub, I still take in morn but I dont have that terrible wicked sick feeling.

You know what guys, either way, even if hooked on vic's or OPs after, at least its still a way less dose than "usual" and its not sub. It seems to me (b/c Ive been on sub for 2 yrs but off and on past 6 mos) either way, someone like me will have sub WD's for definately a month+ after. So, w/ that in mind, Id have to switch over to OP's for a while, then just kick a minimal OP w/ some very minor sub WD's in the mix. Either way, kickinng any of those ills other than sub, itll be 3-5 days of WD but not 2 wks-a mo of full blown physical WD. When I say WD I alsways mean physical. Clearly the mental takes a while after for any long time drug user.

Maybe if you have the capabilities to rehab it, at least you'll be forced. I know I would be most successful doing that b/c the option wouldn't be there. So in many ways, that may be the best route.

Hope you're feeling better! Being sick sick and WD sick blows. Hang in there all!

Also, Gibson - No, for me Im really unsure on going back to sub. I dont wanna get in the "cycle". IDK what Im gonna do yet. For you personally, if you could only take norcos a bit longer to ensure the sub is totally out of your system, then you do the most minimal (talking .25 mg of sub the 1st day or whatever the leats is which .25 wld prob work) and then taper from that for 3-4 days ONLY, I think you would get through it w/the most minimal WD's possible.The mental part will be the main thing to overcome. I think we'll all end up w/ discomfort but that seems for you to prob be the best option. If you fail at that, the rehab rt.

I agree with Erin I would go to rehab if it was an option. I wouldn't let them put you on subs or anything narcotic though. You just have to through it no matter how bad it is just remember it won't last long. Just count the days down and in a week you should be feeling better. 

#36 took 2 Vic's yesterday slept till 11:00 it was a mirical or maybe I'm just hooked on th Vic now. Either way I know after I stop in a week I'll be good. I have the worst runs though I thought the Vic's made you constipated. I don't know what's going on with my body right now. Im going to be clean for Christmas I don't care how hard it is. 

Thanks for the replies.... Rehab would be the last option I have. I am waiting until Sunday night and then stopping, tapering until that point. Not sure if the sub is in me or not. Not be tempted, I flushed 80 of my norcos and have 40 left.

Rehab would be a tough one, especially with my family. My kids, wife - we are all very close and couldn't be away from them. They would cheese. Part of me tells me to 'man up' and deal with the aftermath. Since I originally posted on this board, it's been a long road traveled, I have made progress prior to my sub taking... Heck, I was taking 20 norco a day and now 3-5 at most daily. During the sub, I didn't have one instance where I craved norco, mainly because I didn't have any.

If the sub is out of my system, it's my chance. I have to go into work on Tuesday only next week, so the rest of the days I will be home and deal with whatever comes at me.

Out of 100% = 80% is mental to me. That's the toughest one to overcome.

I have tramadol and kratom just in case something happens. Kratom does work, I used it for 3 months before with no problems and then got sucked back into Norcos. Life goes on I guess.

I read all 15 pages on here and am hopeful you all make it to the other side of the tunnel where i am heading to now. I have been on 2 mg of sub for about 1 1/2 years and i tapered to 1.5 for a week then 1mg for a week and then .5 for a week all of which caused me great pain but i dealt with it. I have in my possession an old script of Percocet 5 mg for emergency use only. clonidine blood pressure medicine. prescription strength Benadryl. htp mood and relaxation, valerian root, melatonin and 1 mg clodipins. Also on a whim i bough 2 ounces of kratom "maeng Da" just incase but i dont plan on touching it.  This is my third day without suboxone and i truly do want out. i have off from work for the next 4 days aka i took a mini vaca to do this. You people here have been an inspiration and have inspired me to make my very first post ever.

Choice: good job on your quitting how you feeling?

 

I betcha any $ even only with 3 mos sub use, you still have a tad of the sub WD but you're past a mo so the worst of that part must be over. Since you're taking so little vic, your prob on that now but still gettn runs from using so little in comparison to sub/minimal left over sub WD I guess. So true, I'd take OP/Vic any WD over Sub.

Yah for me the mental part is 80% too. :(

Good for you choice!

The metal thing is bad. I feel pretty good today I've been cleaning and doing stuff around the house but tonight at work I know I'll use. It's cause it's there I feel like I need it to make it. If it wasn't around I wouldn't take it and eventually the thought would go away. Monday there gone and I'm pushing through.

Here's a stupid question but what is kratrom is it legal?

Kratom is legal, I have used it before, works well and not addictive. Get the plain bali-leaf and get the capsules or get a capsule machine (10 bucks on amazon) Cheap and effective. I went from Norco to kratom overnight and lasted 3 months until who knows why - went back to norcos..

I think if you are having the runs and taking vics, small amounts, you are in good spot believe it or not. I think it would 2-3 days of icky type feeling and you would clear, then of course the mental challenges.

I am same with work and op's.

Kratom is addictive - Google Krotom hell. The people that use it responsibly are fine, but anyone NOT using it over 3-5 days in a row at a time would be fine. Many reap benefits from it when used responsibly. Also, its really disgusting to take depending how you take it

Erin - I would agree with that, it is addictive but nothing like op's or anything like that. If you use extracts, you will get in trouble, it's as powerful as op's. Standard bali-leaf I used that for 3 months but went straight to norco with out problems. Not sure if I should say 'problems' about that.

Old saying goes with anything:
Take something in small amounts is stimulant
Take something in good amounts is a depressant
Take something in large amounts is poison

Yes, lol I wouldnt know anyways, Ive tried it but couldnt feel anything and bought a bunch lol. BUT I saw many many stories online before I bought it experiencing extreme WD's even off the reg non-extracts and many sites like this w/people struggling to get off. AND yes def true, especially w kratom but the tolerance builds so fast Ive heard, its a very slippery slope. Just ike any of my favorite pills. IDK bout worse than Oxycontin... prob same. Oxy really isnt even much different than straight hydrocordone aka perc. Well have a nice weekend guys if I dont end up replyig sooner :)