Drs, nurses, pharmacists etc. will tell you its a change of diet. No, its not, its the methadone. Now, Im sure there are some that begin to overeat which of course adds to the problem. However thier are very many like myself. I have always kept my figure but with methadone it does not matter how much you exercise ( which does not come easy on methadone), does not matter how many calories you cut, for many its going to bloat you out. For me, i lost all my muscle tone, my stomach looked as if I was about 7 months pregnant, it, in a nutshell ruined my figure. I have been detoxing over one year and am down to the dose that I started at. I have lost 20 lbs of the 30 it put on me. By exercising I am reagaining my muscle tone. There are those out there, like my husband that do not gain weight. It has however, ruined his muscle tone. His stomach is bloated some but his weight remains the same. I would never ever tell him what it has done to his tone and how it has aged him in the last 10 years of him using it. I love him too much. You know, Drs treat you like a piece of feces when they know your on this treatment. They think you are only in thier office for drugs, how ignorant is this when you cannot get high off opiates while you are own methadone. Ignorant to the fact that methadone does not cure all pain such as a infected tooth. They dont know what they are talking about about the weight gain issue either. Counselors that tell you when you start the program, "just hold on" you will feel better soon, they have no idea you are sky high when you start the treatment. Of course this goes away after you level out and you dont feel any sort of high. My point here is, you know whats going on with your own body, but unless someone has been addicted, been through this program are really the only ones that can educate one on the true facts besides the Drs that are actually in the methadone clinics. Most all other Drs just treat you like trash, dismiss you and could careless. They dont know what they talking about. Truth be known, many of them and nurses are strung out themselves.
hi sparkles... i just read your post..sorry. its been awhile. the diet is the hcg diet. i do the oral drops and it works absolutely great. its not easy at first but you adjust and you lose weight fast. good luck sweety
If your brother is on something then it is sounds like a narcotic in the speed category or the opiate category (complete opiates such as Oxy Contin, ect.)
If your brother is living with his roommate who is being treated with suboxone then I would imagine he would be the only one taking it. You need not worry about your brother taking the suboxone to get high. You simply do not get high from suboxone. I have heard many say they do get high but I think that it is all mental. However, if your brother has no prior opiate use then taking a suboxone would give him some kind of feeling I would imagine due to suboxone is a partial opiate antagonist. This means that it has two ingredients and 8 mg of the medicine is Bubinenorphine which is an opiate. This is a VERY MILD OPIATE. The rest of the medication consists of Naloxone which plays the role of the opiate antagonist. In short, the naloxone is very strong and acts as a blocker to all opiates (pain killers) so that if a person happened to take even a 3 Oxy Contin 80's they wouldn't feel any of the Oxy Contin's effects. However, the person would probably have to be hospitalized due to serious withdrawal. If you take any opiates along with suboxone you A) Can not feel the effects B) more than likely will go in instant withdrawal due to the nature of the the ingredient Naloxone in the medication.
If anyone would feel anything from suboxone it would be from the VERY MILD opiate bubenorphine. I would imagine you would have to be a person that doesn't have a past with opiates or has never even taken them in any way.
Also, Suboxone doesn't have any effect on your weight. In earlier posts the weight gain was in regards to methadone. The reason people were gettting smaller after taking suboxone in the earlier posts was because they had quit taking methadone. What they don't realize is that if you EVER actually stop taking methadone once you start then you will lose most of your weight whether you take suboxone weeks later or not. Methadone completely slows your metobolism down and therefore you gain a lot weight and in most cases you can't lose the weight. Methadone is the all evil of all opiates. It damages everything from A to Z on the inside and the outside of your body.
If you're worried about your brother using then maybe these few signs can help you:
-loss/gain weight
-pupil dialiation
-itching (face, especially the nose, whole body)
-scabs all over body
-mood changes (ex. someone gets very hyper and talks a lot about nothing- almost like a manic depressant would act- and then that person --wakes up the next morning and act worn out and so on.) MOOD CHANGES...I COULD GO ON AND ON...
-criminal activity
-money that is gone and not accounted for
-broke
-in debt
-no apetite
-scabbing around the nose
-signs of using a needle ( bruises inside the elbow, toes)
-showing signs of depression
-problems at work or school
-not working or going to school
There are many more signs and you can find them all over the internet.
I hope this helped and I really hope your brother is just getting skinnier due to a natural reason!
The signs I provided you with that I could think pertain to most drug use but I was keeping in mind looking for signs of someone using opiates or speed.
It sounds like as of now your just seeing him being skinny (skin & bones). You wrote that he had a roommate so I am throwing this idea at you because it happens so often! Since he has a roommate then I assume he is in college. This may not be true; however, consider the drug adderall for ADHD. Adderall is a popular pill that college students use to keep them UP ALL NIGHT to study or so on. Statistically, college students are singled out being the group who abuses the substance adderall more than any other group. Students can sell it for more than a few dollars as well. They sell it to anyone- only college studenst don't abuse it. Anyone can an do abuse it! People who can get their hands on it usually end up taking it for the fake energy and the slight euphoria it feeds your brain and body! The medication almost seems like it won't allow you to have an appetite. I thought I would give you that little bit of information. I just personally know so many people in my life and or around my life that have actually had been addicted to the medicine. I certainly hope this is not the case either but it came to my mind! If you think this then you could just simply ask your brother because most people think it isn't a "big or bad drug" and will tell you. The truth is that it has methamphetamine and three other ampthetamine salts in it. In other words adderall is the cleanest speed you can take.
I believe you said you knew about drugs some and now I hope you know a little more about them. I hope this can help anyone and everyone who reads this.
So, I'm sending this a month later and I hope it helps. If I were you I wouldn't worry as much if he was in fact taking suboxone but that he MAY be taking OPIATES OR SPEED which is much worse.
Good Luck to you!
To everyone: If you are currently abusing any opiates stop now and call a subsoxone location. Your life will be so much better and you won't have ALL THE PROBLEMS you HAVE right now or YOU WILL HAVE!!! If you are choosing between methadone treatment or suboxone treatment then as you have read- GET OFF OF METHADONE!!
PEACE AND BE WELL.
If your brother is living with his roommate who is being treated with suboxone then I would imagine he would be the only one taking it. You need not worry about your brother taking the suboxone to get high. You simply do not get high from suboxone. I have heard many say they do get high but I think that it is all mental. However, if your brother has no prior opiate use then taking a suboxone would give him some kind of feeling I would imagine due to suboxone is a partial opiate antagonist. This means that it has two ingredients and 8 mg of the medicine is Bubinenorphine which is an opiate. This is a VERY MILD OPIATE. The rest of the medication consists of Naloxone which plays the role of the opiate antagonist. In short, the naloxone is very strong and acts as a blocker to all opiates (pain killers) so that if a person happened to take even a 3 Oxy Contin 80's they wouldn't feel any of the Oxy Contin's effects. However, the person would probably have to be hospitalized due to serious withdrawal. If you take any opiates along with suboxone you A) Can not feel the effects B) more than likely will go in instant withdrawal due to the nature of the the ingredient Naloxone in the medication.
If anyone would feel anything from suboxone it would be from the VERY MILD opiate bubenorphine. I would imagine you would have to be a person that doesn't have a past with opiates or has never even taken them in any way.
Also, Suboxone doesn't have any effect on your weight. In earlier posts the weight gain was in regards to methadone. The reason people were gettting smaller after taking suboxone in the earlier posts was because they had quit taking methadone. What they don't realize is that if you EVER actually stop taking methadone once you start then you will lose most of your weight whether you take suboxone weeks later or not. Methadone completely slows your metobolism down and therefore you gain a lot weight and in most cases you can't lose the weight. Methadone is the all evil of all opiates. It damages everything from A to Z on the inside and the outside of your body.
If you're worried about your brother using then maybe these few signs can help you:
-loss/gain weight
-pupil dialiation
-itching (face, especially the nose, whole body)
-scabs all over body
-mood changes (ex. someone gets very hyper and talks a lot about nothing- almost like a manic depressant would act- and then that person --wakes up the next morning and act worn out and so on.) MOOD CHANGES...I COULD GO ON AND ON...
-criminal activity
-money that is gone and not accounted for
-broke
-in debt
-no apetite
-scabbing around the nose
-signs of using a needle ( bruises inside the elbow, toes)
-showing signs of depression
-problems at work or school
-not working or going to school
There are many more signs and you can find them all over the internet.
I hope this helped and I really hope your brother is just getting skinnier due to a natural reason!
The signs I provided you with that I could think pertain to most drug use but I was keeping in mind looking for signs of someone using opiates or speed.
It sounds like as of now your just seeing him being skinny (skin & bones). You wrote that he had a roommate so I am throwing this idea at you because it happens so often! Since he has a roommate then I assume he is in college. This may not be true; however, consider the drug adderall for ADHD. Adderall is a popular pill that college students use to keep them UP ALL NIGHT to study or so on. Statistically, college students are singled out being the group who abuses the substance adderall more than any other group. Students can sell it for more than a few dollars as well. They sell it to anyone- only college studenst don't abuse it. Anyone can an do abuse it! People who can get their hands on it usually end up taking it for the fake energy and the slight euphoria it feeds your brain and body! The medication almost seems like it won't allow you to have an appetite. I thought I would give you that little bit of information. I just personally know so many people in my life and or around my life that have actually had been addicted to the medicine. I certainly hope this is not the case either but it came to my mind! If you think this then you could just simply ask your brother because most people think it isn't a "big or bad drug" and will tell you. The truth is that it has methamphetamine and three other ampthetamine salts in it. In other words adderall is the cleanest speed you can take.
I believe you said you knew about drugs some and now I hope you know a little more about them. I hope this can help anyone and everyone who reads this.
So, I'm sending this a month later and I hope it helps. If I were you I wouldn't worry as much if he was in fact taking suboxone but that he MAY be taking OPIATES OR SPEED which is much worse.
Good Luck to you!
To everyone: If you are currently abusing any opiates stop now and call a subsoxone location. Your life will be so much better and you won't have ALL THE PROBLEMS you HAVE right now or YOU WILL HAVE!!! If you are choosing between methadone treatment or suboxone treatment then as you have read- GET OFF OF METHADONE!!
PEACE AND BE WELL.
This Suboxone is just another methadone trap. My friend's daughter cried that she wanted to get off of percosetts. She went to a treatment centre that cost 40,000 a month and they put her on suboxone. I was on methadone myself and gained allot of weight. Now my friend's daughter has come back now addicted to suboxone, no detox, and needs $30.00 bucks a day to fill her prescription daily. She's losing weight like crazy, she is 5'10 and weights 105, she looks ugly skinny. I think all of these maintenance drugs are b.s. It is just another way for the system to make money off the backs of addicts or anyone else. I found methadone withdrawal torture. I wouldn't recommend someone go on one to the other. If you really want off then you want off. Quit dicking around. My other friend has been on methadone for like 20 years, it is just so ridiculous. Clean someone up and give them a few downers for a week or so to get over withdrawal, the suboxone and methadone are just big money for pharmacies and you are still in the same spot, running around for your addiction.
I have been on methadone for almost a year. I just started the HCG diet today as a matter of fact. I hope it works as you all have stated, the dome does make you gain a tremendous amount of weight. I hope the HCG will work though!!!
A SIDE EFFECT OF SUBS ARE NO APPETITE! I WAS ON THEM FOR TWO YEARS AND WAS TINY! NOW IM ON MEHTADONE FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND HAVE SWELLED UP AND GAINED OVER FIFTY POUNDS! OMG
hey ive been trying to lose the methadone weight for months and nothing. it sounds like what you did worked. do you think you could explain to me what to do. thanks alot
Hi, I was on methadone for nearly three years i slowly tapered off of 130mg going down 5mg every two weeks i really had no withdrawl symptoms whatsoever. But I then had no energy no motivation and was completely depressed I wanted to die. The time I was on methadone i had gained nearly fourty pounds. Once i was off Methadone I began to urinate constatly and rapidly lost almost all the weight i had put on. About seven mos. later To rid myself of my mental helth issues my doctor recommended I get on Suboxone I have only been on Suboxone a week now and I feel very optomistic and motivated about life so that's the positive. But I have been reading up on Suboxone and am devestated at the weight gain it causes. I am not giving into any of my cravings for sweets and I also plan on starting to take water pills daily.....If anyone has any suggestions please let me know. I will keep posting on my progress. Thanks and best of luck to all of you.
Wow that is such a releif to hear. I was on methadone for nearly three years and gained over 40lbs. I weaned myself off of methadone and instantly lost all the weight i had gained. Now I have started suboxone after seven mos. of being clean and I am so worried about the weight gain. I hope the change works the same for me as it did for you!!!
YES Methadone will potentiate weight gain. It lowers your internal will to be which causes most Methadone patients to laze about or sleep all day (on top of a terrible diet) which ALSO is a major contributing factor to the weight gain. Did you know Methadone lowers testosterone and can even (in addition to the weight gain) cause men to grow (pardon my French) "b***h tits". Methadone is garbage for long term use (3+ years) Anything more than that and you'll be risking too much. The constipation only gets worse, to the point of bloody, painful feces that feel like birthing a child. Years of that kind of rectal abuse WILL CAUSE RECTAL CANCER!!!! Methadone slows down your metabolism and makes it nearly impossible for your body to absorb ANY nutrients or vitamins from food. I had a sports injury that led to Oxycodone. My dad died and my fiance left me. I began abusing painkillers. 22 years young and BAM i'm in a f*****g Methadone clinic. 2 years go by and the fit, handsome, strong, young man I used to be has been replaced by a shell of his former self. I went from 160 lbs to 225 lbs in 2 years on Methadone. At 25 I switched to Suboxone. BEST CHOICE I EVER MADE!!!!!!! I HAVE ENERGY, NO LONGER LETHARGIC. I LOST ALL THAT WEIGHT!!!! I'm back down to 168 lbs after 6 months on Suboxone and a lot of power lifting and cardio. I'll be 26 in July. I'm on the lowest dose of Suboxone now, 2 mg. I should be quiting any day now. Wish me luck. I hope the withdrawl isn't as bad as the monkey wants me to believe it will be. Best wishes to all who come across these readings. Nameste!
my doctor who is excellent told me I probally would only have to withdrawl ONE DAY before changing from methadone to subsoxone (or however it's spelt) so you just maybe scaring people unnecessarily!
IM JUST DISGUSTING LOOKING RIGHT NOW AND IM ONLY ON 26MG!! IVE BEEN ON METHADONE NOW FOR 10 MONTHS AND WORK OUT LIKE A FREAK AND EAT STRAWBERRIES FOR BREAKF AND LUNCH AND EAT A SALAD FOR DINNER AND THE METHADONE HAS MADE ME RETAIN A TON OF WATER IN MY THIGHS, STOMACH, BUT AND FACE! IT GIVES YOU A MOON FACE! OH AND DID I MENTION IM 30 AND HAVE NEVER HAD A WRINKLE IN MY LIFE TIL I GAINED ALL THIS WEIGHT IT MADE MY FOREHEAD HAVE HUGE LONG WRINKLES! I JUST GOT SOME OXYS AND NORCOS YESTERDAY CAUSE I CANT HANDLE HOW TOXIC METHADONE IS! I CANT TAPER DOWN CAUSE THATS TORTURING YOURSELF! YOU WONT GET ANY SLEEP FOR MONTHS!
i've been on methadone for 7 yrs now at 170 mg. i've had very good results on it. i've also gained about 30 # which for me was a blessing in disguise as I've always been so skinny. I'm planning on moving in about 3 months and its very hard to find meth clinics the further upstate ny you go. For this reason among others, i'm considering switching to cyboxen. I'm concerned that I'll lose the weight I gained though. I finally look really healthy at this weight and dont want to go back to being skinny. Can anyone tell me if cyboxen causes weight gain? thank you.
I have been on Suboxone now for about 8 months. Prior to even being addicted to oxy I weighed normally 130 pounds.
I decided to get off the oxy and enter a methadone program where they introduced me to suboxone which i had never heard of. I began loosing weight consistantly and my appetite has completely dissapereared.
I'm not over exadurating. Its to the point where my entire family is worried sick about me. People are constantly telling me how skinny I am and how bad it looks. I apparently look very sick. Almost like I'm dying of aids.
I finally went to the doctors to get blood work done and thinking maybe my iron was low, or something was wrong with my thyroid, the doctor told me I was completely healthy and everything was fine. This was today.
I don't understand how I am not putting on weight considering people at my clinic have expressed to me that they have never been as heavy weight as they are now being on the program. My friends who used oxy seem to put on weight and have an appetite.
I find I get hungry and I'll order a big meal thinking I'll finish it or make a big meal and think I'll eat it all only to take a few bites and feel full. Sometimes I find myself trying to force my food down. I have trouble swallowing it and I gag sometimes. Food does not appeal to me after a couple bites of it.
After reading alot on the internet I really believe it could be the suboxone. My doctor believes its anxiety and stress from over the last year. Being on oxy I didn't always eat and I was always throwing up so I may have shrunken my stomach.
My doctor doesn't seem to talk much about the suboxone and kind of shrugs it off. Im not sure family doctors are of aware of it as the clinics are.
Is there a way to get off suboxone? Ive honestly tried cold turkey and everyone knows thats hell.
Thanks.
Hope this helps.
I am in total agreement with you. I am replying to a 3 year old post but it caught my attention. I just made the switch from Methadone to Suboxone and on Methadone I gained over 50 lbs!!! :-( I just started Suboxone and I have had my normal food cravings back before I was a Methadonian. lol.On Methadone I craved sugar like it was a drug itself. sounds funny but it's not. I had to remind myself to drink because I never wanted it.,Methadone may work for some but I prefer Suboxone. right now I am in the process of finding my correct dosage and it's gonna be 6-8mg to start with. remember everyone is unique in the dosage they need. I really hope someone responds to this. I need some replies.