A little about me. I was a street junkie if their ever was one. I was hooked on H for almost 4 years in and out of the joint. I kicked bundle a day habits in a locked cell with nothing but a toliet. Anyways after countless rehabs I got introduced to suboxone and started maintance. Stayed clean from ALL NARCOTICS for 6 years. NOTHING not even a VICodin or a line of coke. NOTHING. Anways I weined myself down to 2mg and jumped. I believe my tolerance was much higher because I would weekly take an 8mg to catch a free one.
Anyways Im on day 5 of wd's and its been semi-easy. Nothing compared to the hundreds of horror stories that i ve read on these boards. The hardest part is the Jimmie legs and the sleepless days and nights. I have gotten maybe 8 hours of sleep the past 5 days. Tops 1.5 hours at a time. My point of this story is that its do able no matter how long you have been on subs. There is alot of mis-information out there and I wouldnt be suprised if alot of this mis-info is from drug company reps working for suboxone.
As of now I dont have the jimmie legs and the only symthom I have is the insomnia. I CAN"T see the wd's getting worse. I just can't. I have a fast matabolism and felt the onset of withdrawls 12 hours after my last 2mg, so that 72 hour b.s I believe is just b.s. Anyways I feel very confident and believe that this is without a doubt do-able. Im sure I will be up all night long tonight so replys are deff welcomed. IF I can encoruage someone who wants off to get off than I did a job well done.
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PS : I also believe tapering down under 2mg's is a waste of time. You are going to go threw withdrawls tapering down. Than go threw wd's when you finally stop all together, so you might as well sh*t or get off the pot. Why prolong the process ???
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You have not even started acute withdrawals yet I promise you that. First 2 months are piss easy, this is because half life is holding you out. The real nasty sh*t begins around 1 month, and can last 3 to 4 months of hard acute withdrawals. They may not be bad as full agonists but problem with suboxone is the mental withdrawals can last years..Man you been on them for 6 years? that is bad and dangerous. You may have just destroyed your life, am not kidding ya. The depression will be awful I promise you this. I feel sorry for you man..
What I did was transfer to 2 short acting opiates, and am going to stay there for 2 years to purge out the sub. That is how long it is going to take if you even want to feel semi normal. I was lucky because I know someone who works in a warehouse where they keep opiates for pharmacies. I manage to acquire 2 years worth-that is if I use high doses, but I only take enough to feel good, so that means they can last me 3 years. I am so happy I got these opiates, can mean the difference between a decent life and a horrible life i.e depression coming off subs..Man you been on them for 6 years and I am scared for you...
I guarantee you that you will feel death is way better then going through sub withdrawals and PAWS...I promise you in few months you will struggle. I promise you this..
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Ive been threw dozens and dozens of hard core detoxes off H. I know that once you start feeling better it usually never gets worse, unless you start doing what you are doing and going back on drugs. Im on day 6 and actually caught a few hours of sleep last night. I just cant see it going back dlown hill symthom wise. I dont even feel depressed only sometimes and its only because I cant sleep to pass the time. Im up constantly. That too will pass. Good luck in your recovery but I would first get off all drugs first before trying to taper of suboxone. Using opiates to get off suboxone is a bad idea. A really bad idea.
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Day 7 and feeling so much better. Its a relief. Got a couple hours of sleep last night and feel great. Still up at 4am but hey if that's the price I have to pay than so be it. After hearing all these horror stories about suboxone all I can say is BUBKUS.
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Day 9. Feel great. A little RSL at night and periodically throughout the day. Getting 6 hours a sleep at a clip now. Insomnia getting better. This is doable ladies and gents. Extremely do able. I highly thought there are that many people who have been on sub maintaince for 6 years like me EVERYDAY.. I've been clean from Street drugs and prescription drugs for 6 years. So this sub detox battle is much easier mentally on me. I wish I would have done this years ago. I'm not ready to conquer victory since its not completely over. But its just about a few days until I feel completely free. I will let you guys know. Know one is following me, which is ok. But I truly hope this helps somebody.
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Day 10 baby. Feel like a million bucks. Got freaking 10 hours a sleep, unbelievable. I broke the gorilla's back. Symthom wise, I've been doing well the past few days, just feeling sluggish as all hell due to the insomnia. I knew once I got a good nights sleep I would be feeling better. F suboxone you are beat ! FYI, I WAS ON SUBS 6 FULL YEARS EVERY SINGLE DAY, plus jumped at 2 mg. I believe if I would have tapered I would still be going threw withdrrawls for another week or two. I'm ecstatic right now. Good luck ladies and gents, this is deff do able.
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I don't know why I keep coming up as a guest. I signed up. Anyways I'm on day 15 today off subs. Day 10 was great. I played hand ball all day and was sore as heck. It effected me day 11 than day 12 I was an id**t and played hand ball again even though I was sore as hell which e3sculated the RLS especially at night. No RSL anymore but . I'm still not sleeping right. The 10 hours I got was because I took a few klonopins before bed. I haven't taken anything other than melatonin since thee night of day 9. The only wd's I still have are diarrhea and sleepless- ness. Also I still have a horrible time getting comfortable in one spot. Its frustrating but got to stick it out.
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Joeshmo here : > I will probably come back up as a guest. Anyways its 3 weeks to the day since my last sub. I haven't had much physical wd's the past 7 days or so. But the mental part is getting to me. I feel highly anxious at times and very tired. I have been sleeping but not the kind of sleep I want to have. I never had problems. Still waking up at sunrise everyday. Gotta do this. Cant turn back now. Like I keep posting, with the right attitude subs can be beat. I was on them 6 years straight. EVERY DAY. DID not miss a day except for a few days which could be counted on one hand. Its possible people. Keep your heads up.
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Ok tomorrow will be a month off suboxone. It is finally appropriate to say I beat this. Its over. Suboxone I beat you. It was not the easiest thing, but it was far from the hardest. The easiest detox I ever had to go threw. The difficult part is the lingering symptoms after the initial 5 days of moderate withdrawals. It sure is a roller coaster effect. I thought I was done on day 10. I prematurely stated that I had it beat and was done with Wd's. I was mistaken. I was deff done with the initial physical wd's but I still had symptoms including sleepless ness and anxiety. I'm back to sleeping good a month in and the only symptom I'm still dealing with is loose bowel movements. I still don't believe all the horror stories. The detox was longer than I thought especially considering that by day 5 I was past the worst of it. Suboxone deff is a longer withdrawal compared to street drugs, but its like comparing a hurricane to a slow moving storm that just dumps a bunch of rain. Anyways I would love to give some helpful advice to anyone considering detoxing off suboxone. But I'm not getting any responses back. I don't know if the moderators are keeping me off because I have no following or what. But I think this could be helpful and inspiring to anyone looking to get off suboxone after years and years of maintenance. .
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Hey Joeshmo,
I'm surprised you aren't/didn't have more of a following or replies. Either way If you do ever see this, it was helpful. This relapse, from opana to subs 4 months clean back to 10 months opana and now just over a week on sub, brought me to your blog. I'm not too worried about beating it thankfully because of you. I hope you are still clean and happy!
JB
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never been on this site, so glad I ran onto it. I have been taking suboxone probably about a year about now. I want to stop but I've been afraid to even try. after reading your post I have hope. not sure how to even start? hope to here back from you. Thanks!
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