I am fully with Recvrngaddct on this subject. I'm new to the suboxone and am using as prescribed but am having issues staying clean. My story is besides the point. The nalaxone is the opiate blocker! Also, subutex has nothing to do with shooting it up. Not trying to offend but I've done my research and am still on the fence of continuing suboxone. I hear these horror stories of withdrawals but it has really been helping me with my cravings for the opiates which I was taking 210 plus 10/325 percs in a week and a half then had to find them elsewhere when I ran out. I've been dealing with pills for 16 years and finally agreed to the suboxone due to living conditions and never realized how bad my cravings and brain were until they started me on it in treatment. Anyhoo. Not wanting to offend but this person needs to get the correct information.
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I've been taking 8-16 mg of suboxone for 4 years. I've done them other ways then recommended if u know what I mean. That's worse for the detox cause you're getting all 8 mg. Doing under the tongue it's a proven fact you only get about 30% that's why they've come out with all these new kinds, bunavail, etc. They have a lower mg that equals 8 mg of suboxone.
Anyway, yea naloxone does not prevent detox, it only prevents opiates from working. If u do a sub then an hour later do a perc you'll feel nothing. Do it the other way around you'll get extremely sick. I'm on my 5th day clean jumping off 4 mg. Took a month off work. I started getting diarrhea and restless legs a day ago but sleep 12 hours a night. I take quite a few over the counter vitamins after doing tons of research on making detox easier. I'm assuming they're doing something cause how can I have some symptoms and not others. I've detoxed off everything but subs. Not sure what to expect. Like I said it's day 5. I'm 6'4" 321 lbs. Does no metabolism help? Lol. I just wish I had someone to talk to. I also go for walks every day.
Anyway, yea naloxone does not prevent detox, it only prevents opiates from working. If u do a sub then an hour later do a perc you'll feel nothing. Do it the other way around you'll get extremely sick. I'm on my 5th day clean jumping off 4 mg. Took a month off work. I started getting diarrhea and restless legs a day ago but sleep 12 hours a night. I take quite a few over the counter vitamins after doing tons of research on making detox easier. I'm assuming they're doing something cause how can I have some symptoms and not others. I've detoxed off everything but subs. Not sure what to expect. Like I said it's day 5. I'm 6'4" 321 lbs. Does no metabolism help? Lol. I just wish I had someone to talk to. I also go for walks every day.
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This is exactly what I needed to know I quit cold turkey was clean 9 months then got hurt took one percent which led to a whole month of them and now I experience minor withdrawals without any so I bought a sub to try to just take for a few days but wasn't sure if you could do that I took 1/4 this morning and it did the trick although I was still a little sleepy but just wanna take it as long as I absolutely need to to be substance free again
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WTF ? truly. Who's even heard of sub at those absurd levels ? 48 mg ? 24 mg? I'm fighting a 15 year dope habit, and even so, my dr. prescribed only two 8 mg sub pills per day. Something's not right here, or your dr is nuts.
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i accept that it's pointless to mention this, but here goes anyway......even if you went to the clinic, i strongly doubt that they'd help you / dose you. In my neck of the woods, if you're MIA from the clinic for a day or two, you are considered "kicked off." You'd have to re-apply and probably go through a waiting period before they take you back on. Your problem started when you attempted to start sub treatment while methadone was still in your system. Likely, by now, you've worked it all out. Hope so.
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I too am trying to do a short term Suboxone use to hopefully avoid any intolerable withdrawals from a 40-60 a day habit. I have only 6 8mg tabs to work with. I waited 24 hrs like recommended to avoid feeling even worse, then started with a whole tab. I'm on day 3 now and am tapering down. I understand that my chances of relapse are high, but all I'm worried about is getting out of any w/d symptoms because I'm a single dad and have no vacation days left. If this works and there's no post w/d's from the heroin then it will be a miracle. The suboxone SO FAR is a life savor.
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You said that Dr's say that taking Suboxone is for life? I been taking Suboxone for 3 years and that's not true. I have been to 3 different Suboxone Dr's and they went to wing me off but it's very hard for me. I only take 1/4 of one a day and they make me so tired and sleepy.
The De prescribes me 60 a month but as I said I only take 1/4 of one a day so I I have a lot of Suboxone saved up as I go every month
NO says to take Suboxone the test of your life. It interferes with everyday life.
The De prescribes me 60 a month but as I said I only take 1/4 of one a day so I I have a lot of Suboxone saved up as I go every month
NO says to take Suboxone the test of your life. It interferes with everyday life.
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I agree with you about the withdrawal, altho I havent tried the slow taper yet. I was on 2mg for about three months after being on Norco for about 18 months. I tried to get off of suboxone after being on 1 mg a day for about 10 days. The physical discomfort, for me, wasnt as bad as with norco withdrawal, but the insomnia was ten times worse, and thats what broke me. I went 9 days without any sleep at all. Ok, I was still coherent, so I may have gotten a few minutes of sleep here and there, but no real sleep at all in nine days. At the end I couldnt stop crying whenever I talked to anyone about how I was feeling. At the end of day 9 I couldnt do it anymore. I had thrown my suboxone away so I wouldnt be tempted to take any while I was trying to withdraw so I had to call my Dr. to get a refill. He told me I should be feeling fine after that length of time since the suboxone was out of my system at that point. This confirmed my worst fears, that my dr. had no idea how to help people get off this drug or what happens to a person when they try to get off. Anyway, he told me that he thought I should still be on suboxone because I still had neck pain from my surgery so he had no problem writing me a refill and would have no problem writing refills for as long as I wanted, because he thinks I should stay on it. Maybe you know how doomed I felt when he said all this, cause I knew I would be getting no help from him getting off this poison. At the time, however, I was just thankful that I could get more and feel ok again. I took 2mg that night and slept like the dead, and woke up feeling wonderful. I want and need to try getting off this c**p again, but I have to be honest, I am scared to death to go through this again, i have been thinking about buying norco on the street, taking that a few weeks, and then getting off it. I've done that several times, cold turkey, and while it sucked, I was able to get some sleep, which I cant even emphasis enough, I have to have to function at all. Anyway, I dont see the point in suboxone, when you have to go through horrible withdrawal with this too, but too late now. Good luck to anyone trying to get off and to anyone thinking about taking it, DONT. Its easier to withdraw from opiates than this drug. Like I said, I havent done the slow taper, maybe it works better that way I dont know
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Yea, having someone to talk to helps. I dont have very many people I can talk with about this, which makes it hard. Its easier to fight the depression of all of it when you can talk to someone about how you feel. Hope it worked out for you, I see its been 6 months, so hopefully you are good at this point. I am trying to work up the nerve to try to detox from suboxone again. The first attempt was so horrible Im not that eager to do it again
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I know the feeling...of wanting to put a gun in your mouth and pulling the trigger...it would hit be a relief to quit feeling like you were dyin a slow painful death.
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Your EXACTLY right!!!! Dead on....no they haven't been opiate addicts. Try taking 90mg of methadone every damn day. And it was rx'd. The liquid at that.... For someone to say the had a addiction to opiates and have no withdrawals is straight BS...opiate withdrawal is severe and even worse pending on the opiate......ppl don't give info if u don't know what the hell ur talking about.....smh. Why are you even trying to give addicts advice when u know NOTHING OBVIOUSLY... Your EXACTLY right sayi g they have no clue what they are saying....and yea perks come in 5, 7.5, and 10s that's it. Roxys come I. 15s 30s and so on with the other opiates morphine and ect...know your sh*t ppl b4 putting it out there...
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