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Trying to taper off suboxone after years of heroin and methadone. I tried Withdrawal Ease when I was coming off of 10 mg of methadone. It was a NIGHTMARE! Worst withdrawal of my life. Withdrawal Ease is a joke. I suppose if you are just having a little discomfort from withdrawing from short term opiate use it would be okay, but not for serious withdrawals. It's all in your head anyway so maybe taking it works and you could fool yourself. I've heard Kratom is good for withdrawals so I'm going to try that when the time comes.
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Hi,
My brother is a horrible opiate addict for 15 years now. He takes 20-30 pills a day. He has tried everything.. He was about to buy this withdrawl ease but after reading your post it kind of broke his heart.. What is your opinion on what he should try to do since you have been through it??.. Appreciate the advice!
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I wouldn't waste my money on Withdrawal Ease. My friend tried it and it did absolutely nothing to help him. I read the disclaimer before he purchased it and i knew it was a scam. Do you believe they had the nerve to write in the disclaimer that the findings are based in " many HOURS of research". I would have been more inclined to try it if it might had said many YEARS of research but hours , come on. This is people lives they are messing with. They can't just throw a product on the market and claim that it works because they did a couple of hours worth of research. I mean , the CDC and FDA have been researching this for decades and still haven't found a way to completely rid someone of withdrawals. So I refuse to believe that someone created a drug to make withdrawal pain free based on research that was done in "hours" . I did a little reasearch myself about the company who makes Withdrawal Ease and in less than an hour found more than enough evidence to prove this a scam. The people who made withdrawal ease have no medical background , training , or experience with withdrawal . They are just a few people who got together and decided they would make money off of other people's suffering. They know that persons in withdrawal are desperate and will try anything in hopes that it rids them of the pain of withdrawal. That's the real basis of thier "hours" of research. They should be ashamed of themselves. I've detoxed many times in the 20 yrs I've used opiates and never had a pain free WD , and I've tried everything to ease my suffering. I've been herion free for 6 yrs now. I was methadone for 5 1/2 yrs went to suboxone to get off the meth and now I'm tapering , currently on 2mg a day. I've detoxed off subs in the past and its withdrawals are a breeze (though not easy) compared to the harder drugs.
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You are exactly right about the withdrawal ease. It's a scam and doesn't work at all! I was coming off of 10mg of methadone and was fell for their claims. Of course, it didn't work. I hadn't done heroin in about 6 years and I had to go score just so I could go to work. A few days later, I found a great suboxone doctor (this was about 2 years ago). Now I'm also tapering down, I'm taking 1/2 a strip in the morning and 1/4 of a strip in the evening. I'm hoping to eliminate the pm dose, then cut down on the am dose. I've never gone through sub withdrawal and I'm really scared. I've heard everything from it being the worst withdrawal imaginable to piece of cake withdrawal. I know it's got to be easier than the methadone withdrawal. The trick is to taper very slowly, I think.
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There is no such thing as pain free withdrawal...im on day 2 of no subs and honestly im not that bad..im sure tonight or tommorrow will be different but im not there yet so no worrying about it..i have read immodium really helps the wds..
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Good luck to you! I'm tapering and I'm terrified of actually coming off of it. If you can, keep us posted on your progress. I'm interested to see what it's really like and how long it takes to feel "normal" again. How many mg are you coming off of and how long were you on it?
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That may be true for you but clonodine and pharmaceuticals that just treat the symptoms of opiate withdrawal don't work for me and herbs and amino acids and natural supplements along with massage, chiropractic and accupuncture do! You ought to really just speak for yourself and not make generalizations. All the ingredients in withdrawal-ease are good for treating the symptoms of opiate detox although it can be done different and cheaper because usually it takes a while to rebalance the dopamine neurotransmitters in the brain. Depression and lethargy will last far more than the week or two or four of detoxing.
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A GREAT RESOURCE is Dr. Dave Arndt and Riverside News

 

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Please find Riverside News and Dr. Dave Arndt- BEST resource for a holistic withdrawal off of methadone and other opiates - Google it!

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Hey Everyone I'm really happy whoever posted this to begin with. I am a current suboxone user and i am in a even rougher spot than most, I am not on the program I buy it off the street and I've been doing it for atleast 2 years. as of right now I only average about 2 of the 8m a week which really isn't that bad considering some people get 1 1/2 a day and its STILL hard for me to quit. The hardest part of it so far is mental, if you think about it, your going to get sick and then the good ole horrible cramps start coming in. My advice to others don't replace it with something because thats what you did in the first place, you replaced pain killers for suboxone. take lots and lots of vitamins daily like fish oil, niacin, b12. Another good thing that really really helps you sleep at night is EXERCISE EXCERISE EXERCISE. I'm not saying go nuts with it to a point you hurt yourself but get yourself tired and your blood flowing eat better as well. It made my nights getting to sleep ( and the cramps) so much better when i was tired. This works mainly cause your body is concerned about repairing itself so its allowing its natural painkiller into the brain. Its also helping mentally as well because you feel accomplished and did something without a drug. One thing I haven't tried that a friend did was meditation. Mind over matter. She said it worked very, very well for her and she was into it more than I was. I agree with a lot of people here, you just have to  wait it out and get yourself hooked on being sober but look at it this way, if you get through the withdrawal you'll never want to touch a pill again because you'll know what to expect if you get hooked again. Anyways I figured I was just share some of my experience I'm still doing it but I do it now every 2 days and its working well for me. Good luck stay strong! 

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I can't understand the negative posts here about Withdrawal Ease-  The only thing I can make a guess about for those posting negative things is that maybe those saying it is NO GOOD maybe have been taking in PSYCHOACTIVE Agents besides the Withdrawal Ease- By that I mean it IS very important to eliminate ALL Psychoactives (which includes everything Addictive as well AS anything else that aims for the brain)-  So..the term Psychoactives..means eliminating ALL Neurtoxins (such as Nutrasweet/Aspartame, MSG, Antihistamines/incl Benadryl, HFCS, Coal Tar Colorings, ADHD Meds, Rx'ed Sleeping Meds (& OTC forms that contain generic benedryl), Pain Meds, Newer Antacids which are known to be mood altering, Rxd Anti-Anxiety Meds, Anti-Depressants, AntiPsychotics or ANY Psych Meds- (ALL part of the LONG List of Psychoactive Agents)-  ALL these can DERAIL a person who is getting EMDR (the Recommended Trauma Therapy for our dear relative who was a longterm victim of Violent Sexual Abuse & Drugging by her father & his mother (her own grandmother)- Prior TO & since her father took a plea bargain in 2007, she has been suffering through all the Horrors of Old School Psych Meds & failed short stays in facilities (both Psych facilities & also Addiction Treatment Centers-

We learned in mid 2012 that the reason we are always directed to places SO far from home for treatment..is b/c the network hears that we live in one of the TWO states which are still SO Old School with using mostly OUTDATED Methods- That means that most treatment centers in our state use one of only TWO methods of treatment for people with really BAD symptoms-

 B/C of her living for over 7 1/2 yrs.. since PreSchool Age with bad drugging & terrible violent sexual abuse..it was very EASY for her to get Addicted to the Oxy given to her in 2009 after being AirMeded following a terrible wreck -

She had multiple injuries after being injected..injuries all over her body..including slight neck fracture & a TERRIBLY CRUSHED LEG..which now has  metal rod & 8 Screws holding long bones & joints in place-  Suboxin is what was given to her when trying to wean her off Oxy- We soon learned that Suboxin is viewed as an OUTRIGHT NIGHTMARE-  Another recently retired Trauma/Addiction Therapist told me that at the time of her retirement...her workplace center was NO LONGER taking addicts who are addicted TO SUBOXONE- She listened to a conversation about a Dr who gives Rx's for Suboxin- After waiting for the person to finish the conversation..then turn & leave...the retired therapist said :"Buying Suboxin for ANYONE is sending a clear message of HELPING THE PERSON TO PUSH AWAY FROM BEING CLEAN...b/c Suboxin is SUCH A NIGHTMARE..that it is CRUELTY for ANY Dr to give that drug to people and say it is OK for them to take it while WEANING off an Opiate."

From Our Experience with a close relative..ALL that she said IS Correct- She spoke to us also of her having worked as an Interventionist-  NOTHING has worked for our dear relative..UNTIL SHE BEGAN TAKING Withdrawal Ease-  She considers it a GodSend- Her most recent comment has been "It's SO good to FEEL NORMAL."- 

We realized the true meaning of what we've been told about EMDR..& WHY One highly recommended therapist bowed out (despite her being the ONLY one with EMDRIA behind her name- Of only 4 recommended in Our State...that highly recommended EMDRIA therapist was the one who Bowed Out-  After learning more about EMDR..we were told that our young relative would likely NOT be able to walk into a Therapist's Office & schedule EMDR Sessions..as her brother was viewed AS ABLE TO DO- We have been told that SHE is NOT Stable enough to have EMDR ...UNTIL She has completed TRAUMA/ADDICTION Therapy ..with the Trauma Therapist OVERSEEING the Addiction Therapy (the most successful type Addiction Therapy..used in Total Holistic Methods)- 

The client MUST BE FREE OF ALL PSYCHOACTIVES in order to NOT DERAIL during EMDR Sessions- ANY Psychoactives taken IN will DERAIL the client-  BUT A MIRACLE HAS HAPPENED SINCE SHE BEGAN Withdrawal Ease (& she has been OFF ALL PSYCHOACTIVES)...she FEELS NORMAL FOR THE 1ST TIME..& WHILE DETOXING ONLY WITH WITHDRAWAL EASE..& just extra small dose Melatonin at night IF Needed- 

We were told last year that one reason the highly experienced EMDRIA therapist may have bowed out of taking her case..Is that EMDR Takes the client BACK TO A TIME of BIG STRESS OR TRAUMA..that IS DRIVING the person TO SELF MEDICATE...& that EMDRIA Therapist likely Realized that our young relative's LIFE WAS TAKEN FROM HER (at pre school age)..BEFORE SHE HAD A LIFE OF HER OWN..OR had learned to make decisions on her own..SO Therapist likely felt she had NO PLACE OR TIME to TAKE HER BACK TO..for Successful EMDR as she has had success in other cases of taking clients BACK & moving the PTS AWAY--

We have learned SO much...about EMDR..& WHY it is the Number One Treatment FOR PTSD people...but IN SO Many places in this country...the Continuous MEDICATING (with Psychoactives)...KEEPS ADDICTIVE BEHAVIOR ALIVE..thru Continuous WEANING a person OFF ONE Addictive Med...thru USE of ANOTHER Psychoactive Agent-  TRAUMA THERAPY...is all about NO MEDS..so when a TRAUMA THERAPIST Oversees the Addiction Therapy of a Trauma/or Stress Victim..the person is MOVED AWAY FROM MEDS...ESPECIALLY IF the person is heading FOR EMDR..the MIRACLE TRAUMA THERAPY -

Our young relative MUST have at least a Level 2 EMDR Therapist..who has at least had experience with Military Trauma or Terror or Hostage cases of Trauma-  Now that Withdrawal Ease has SO helped our young relative recently..we REALLY believe that SHE TOO likely CAN get to the point of eventually having Trauma/Addiction Therapy OUTPATIENT AS her brother can do..b/c she NOW is feeling SO GOOD (withOUT the usual agony of Withdrawal)- We realize that she really NEVER KNEW what it meant to feel NORMAL-  (So Traumatized..So Drugged for SO many yrs)- Melatonin alone is a great Trauma Easing agent..so with it being IN the nighttime part of Withdrawal Ease..& her having 1mg & 3mg Melatonin always at hand for extra if she feels need for it..she is doing GREAT with DETOX this time (AT HOME !!!!)- She already had Passion Flower too as well AS Valerian- She/We always have Passion Flower on hand as our favorite Natural Benzodiazepine- It causes Sleepiness..so prefer to NOT take that in daytime..but ONE Valerian cap..is something several in our family use for Daytime Anxiety (1 at a time)..so that too is at hand for any extra Anxiety in daytime (but the Withdrawal Ease is a GodSend...b/c it also helps with Building of SAMe for the brain..as well AS building Glutathione, our Master Antioxidant..which is depleted by ANY FOREIGN CHEMICALS/Drugs taken in thru inhaling, swallowed, absorbed...glutathione depleted from the Liver & Lower Lungs FIRST-   Hats off to Makers of Withdrawal Ease !!

 

 

 

 

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The stuff is a big waste of money, and is useless - You obviously work for them. We suffer enough, and get ripped off enough. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Give me a break! You are blogging for them. The stuff is over priced and does ZERO ZERO ZERO - REPEAT DO NOT WSTE YOUR MONEY - IT IS A SCAM!
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Try rapid detox, if he can affordi it. It works, I made a thread about my experience.
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I have just purchased withdrawal ease.. Last year I had surf major bacjus urgencies three months apart the second one was horrible because ttook removed all of my muscles to reach my spine! Being in so much pain in the hospital they were giving me 60mgs of Percocet every four hours along with a dillaudid drip. I 'twas taking only fifteen mgs before so when I saw two pills I thought they were the fifteens but they were thirty mgs when I asked the nurse. So my tolerance shot up and by NovembeAli wanted to be off of them so bad my doctor switched me to OxyContin believing that he could cut my mgs in half because it was an extended release it would always be in my system so I away taking 40mgs every twelve hours and I wasn't through withdrawal with that for about a week a month later I nines my healh insurance would be up in January because I'm a hair dresser and can no longer stand all day. So I asked the doctors once again to get me off of these instead of giving me suboxone he gave me 20mg of OxyContin so on New Years I began my withdrawal through a friend i purchased a few suboxone and Xanax and decided to go to my dads for a week and get off be fore I started school mid January for a new career. And it didn't work cause I felt fine taking the sub. I continued to get sub 8 mg from a friend and slowly weened myself off til one 8mg pill wouldnlast over two weeks I guess that means I was taking about .5mg a day. I stopped cold turkey two days ago and I feel horrible shocked that I feel this bad and no one understands my boyfriend who has watched me go through all of this doesn't user why I hurt so bad or understand my symptoms and all my dad says is you must have gone back on pills but I haven't! I have non urge to ever take them again no matter how bad my back hurts me! im curiouif how long ill feel like this some people say one week some say as long as you took the pills and some say three months I'm in school now and really need to focus and mid terms are next week! I found out last night that taking two Benadryl at night made a huge difference on how I slept I stayed asleep the whole night and that never happens! But I can't do that during the day when I need to get things done. Does any one shave any advice or homeopathic tricks like Benadryl that can help during the day.

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