Livia wrote:
delray wrote:
martinv wrote:
I had been a hemorrhoid sufferer for 30 years with stage 3 prolapsed hemorrhoids, including 2 that were internal and one that was external. I had read an article in the Hippocrates Health Institute, November 2009 issue of an individual who had not only a serious case of hemorrhoids but also fissures and fistulas. He talked of his experience at the North American Chinese Medicine Hemorrhoids Treatment Center in Toronto, Canada. His was a severe case and it took him 5 weeks to totally heal his condition without surgery, without pain or drugs, and without scaring. To me this sounded to good to be true. After doing my own research I headed to Toronto to meet the Chinese doctors at the clinic.
At the clinic I learned that it takes generally just 7-10 days to get rid of hemorrhoids if they are stage one or two. Mine were stage 3 and required a 21 day visit. The clinic is owned by a famous medical family from China who is much revered by its citizens with numerous awards. They employ 400 doctors, and own 50 hospitals. The family has been treating hemorrhoids and associated medical conditions for some 5 generations. They developed a specific regimen rooted in Traditional Chinese Medicine which helps the body heal the condition naturally using non toxic herbs. They have treated an estimated 3 million people with a 98% cure rate, yet little is known of their practice in the West.
How does their therapy work? They use a compound developed generations ago by the family. A detoxicating agent specifically targeted to the tissues of the affected area, as well as additional ingredients are designed to stem blood flow and activate healing - while at the same time relieve swelling, inflammation and pain. The core anti-hemorrhoidal ingredients in the compound actually shut off the blood supply to the affected vein - cutting off the life- blood of the hemorrhoid, in effect- while encouraging the body to remove water from the affected tissues. Ultimately, the hemorrhoid dries out and then falls off on its own. The procedure takes just 10 minutes a day, enough time for insertion of the compound into the rectum.
I stayed at the Hilton Suites Hotel in Markham, Canada. Today, I am hemorrhoid free. I have heard many horror stories about hemorrhoidal surgery. In my case, not only did I not have surgery, but also no complications, pain or scaring.....and for this I am ever grateful to the Chinese doctors who were wonderful and caring people. My total cost was $2,000 for the procedure which in my case took 3 weeks due to the severity of my stage 3 condition.
I wish to thank the owners of this forum for making this site available to the numerous sufferers whose lifestyles have been ravaged by this condition.
Hi Martin. Thanks for posting your experience on this site as I am very interested in non-surgical solutions wherever possible! I too have very painful hemmorhoids and am wondering if you are still hemmorhoid- free at this time.
Grace
Hi Martin,
Yours is the only success story that I have seen and I keep seeing it over and over again in different places, which makes me wonder whether you are for real or are receiving a commission. I spent 1,600 dollars after reading your story for the first time and plain vaseline was as effective as the ointments they used on me. There were not able to help me at all and referred me back to conventional medicine after taking my money and a lot of time. I'm glad it worked for you but I would caution Grace that it does not work for everyone!
Livia: Have you read the testimony of the poster...Havemylifeback...It is a sad commentary that you question the success of the Chinese procedure when others on this site have endorsed it. I suggest Grace speak to the NATCM center in Toronto herself. I am a 70 year old successful and retired business executive, who runs a charity for disadvantaged children. I only wish for others not to go through the pain and complications of a hemorhoidectomy.
Yes, I have read it. I'm so glad it worked for that person and for you, but like you, I'm trying to save other people from grief - in this case the grief of spending time and large sums of money without any benefit. I am not 'questioning' the success of the procedure. There is nothing to question. I am reporting that I spent the money and the time and it did nothing for me. Yes...some people on the site, like you, have been helped by NATCM. Others, like me, have not. I guess it is a gamble - an expensive gamble. The doctors at NATCM told me to go to a conventional clinic because they were unable to help me. That was after I had spent 6 months traipsing back and forth there and $1600. However, I am happy for you and anybody that is helped. I am also sorry for those people who spend the money and who are not cured.
After reading your comments here I researched and found the clinic in Markham, Ontario. Some background: When I read your comment I was going through a desperate bout. I had a fissure and my hems were becoming unbearable. I was spending 2 days a week in bed and dreading the trip to the WC. Dr's weren't helping. They'd just shrug their shoulders and give me cortisone cream or suggest surgery that would in their own words cause tremendous pain and eventual incontinence. So needless to say I was desperate. Today, I am in mid-treatment (2 weeks into my 4 week treatment) and I am flabbergasted! I felt relief within the first week but never did I truly believe that I would be hemorrhoid free.Looks like I will be. My hems are going away. I had internal hemorrhoids that were prolapsed, 2 polyps, a fissure and several external hemorrhoids. The fissure, internal ones, including the prolapsed ones and the polyps were gone by the 2nd week. I am now watching the external ones shrink and disappear with my own eyes. I still can't fully believe it. These ones (I was told by surgeons and proctologists) would never go away. I thought I would bear the burden of hemorrhoids for the rest of my life but I am starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. THANK YOU so very very much for sharing your story. You've saved me from extended agonizing pain and misery. Dr. Ivy and Chen are truly amazing at what they do.
martinv wrote:
Craig: Thank you for your reply. In answer to your 4 questions. I was treated in Toronto (Markham) Canada 2 months ago. The Ba Zhi San hemorrhoid procedure or protocol has a 98% success rate with nearly 3 million people having been treated in the Orient. Rarely is their a recurrence as the procedure treats both the root causes and outward symptoms at the same time. I am told that offices for this procedure are being set up first in San Francisco and then eventually in Florida. Unlike laser, or rubber band ligation or the PPH surgery, this procedure uses non-toxic herbs to dissipate moisture and reduce swelling from the affected tissues while encouraging the growth of healthy new flesh; it also relieves pain and aids the body in expelling toxins and fighting infection and alleviating itching and bleeding. To answer your question, only the doctors can insert the herbs into the rectum. A various mixture is used depending upon the condition. Generally, stage one or two hemorrhoids require a 7-10 day treatment of 10 minutes per day. Stage 3 prolapsed hemorrhoids or those with fissures and fistulas may require up to 21 days. But its not like being in a hospital as you just have to be available each day at the clinic for the rectal insertion. My treatment ended on November 8th. The incredible thing is that now, after I go to the bathroom, I no longer feel a lump in my anus. The 3 hemorrhoids just dried up and fell off on their own! How can I describe it? It's like having a baby's ass again with no scaring. A totally new feeling. I am truly flabbergasted! An anoscope, that is a speculum or device for examining the rectum, confirmed that I am hemorrhoid free....this after 30 years of anguish. And most fortunately, I do not have the sad story of pain, bleeding, thrombosis, and constipation that so many here complain of after using the rubber band technique or surgery.
Dear MartinV,
After reading your comments here I researched and found the clinic in Markham, Ontario. Some background: When I read your comment I was going through a desperate bout. I had a fissure and my hems were becoming unbearable. I was spending 2 days a week in bed and dreading the trip to the WC. Dr's weren't helping. They'd just shrug their shoulders and give me cortisone cream or suggest surgery that would in their own words cause tremendous pain and eventual incontinence. So needless to say I was desperate. Today, I am in mid-treatment (2 weeks into my 4 week treatment) and I am flabbergasted! I felt relief within the first week but never did I truly believe that I would be hemorrhoid free.Looks like I will be. My hems are going away. I had internal hemorrhoids that were prolapsed, 2 polyps, a fissure and several external hemorrhoids. The fissure, internal ones, including the prolapsed ones and the polyps were gone by the 2nd week. I am now watching the external ones shrink and disappear with my own eyes. I still can't fully believe it. These ones (I was told by surgeons and proctologists) would never go away. I thought I would bear the burden of hemorrhoids for the rest of my life but I am starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. THANK YOU so very very much for sharing your story. You've saved me from extended agonizing pain and misery. Dr. Ivy and Chen are truly amazing at what they do.
Nsadi: I look forward to hearing your results at the conclusion of your visit.
Thank you for giving your experience at the clinic. I am happy to be of help and I hope others learn that it is not necessary to endure the pain and complications of a hemorrhoidectomy.
RADY wrote:
martinv wrote:
I had been a hemorrhoid sufferer for 30 years with stage 3 prolapsed hemorrhoids, including 2 that were internal and one that was external. I had read an article in the Hippocrates Health Institute, November 2009 issue of an individual who had not only a serious case of hemorrhoids but also fissures and fistulas. He talked of his experience at the North American Chinese Medicine Hemorrhoids Treatment Center in Toronto, Canada. His was a severe case and it took him 5 weeks to totally heal his condition without surgery, without pain or drugs, and without scaring. To me this sounded to good to be true. After doing my own research I headed to Toronto to meet the Chinese doctors at the clinic.
At the clinic I learned that it takes generally just 7-10 days to get rid of hemorrhoids if they are stage one or two. Mine were stage 3 and required a 21 day visit. The clinic is owned by a famous medical family from China who is much revered by its citizens with numerous awards. They employ 400 doctors, and own 50 hospitals. The family has been treating hemorrhoids and associated medical conditions for some 5 generations. They developed a specific regimen rooted in Traditional Chinese Medicine which helps the body heal the condition naturally using non toxic herbs. They have treated an estimated 3 million people with a 98% cure rate, yet little is known of their practice in the West.
How does their therapy work? They use a compound developed generations ago by the family. A detoxicating agent specifically targeted to the tissues of the affected area, as well as additional ingredients are designed to stem blood flow and activate healing - while at the same time relieve swelling, inflammation and pain. The core anti-hemorrhoidal ingredients in the compound actually shut off the blood supply to the affected vein - cutting off the life- blood of the hemorrhoid, in effect- while encouraging the body to remove water from the affected tissues. Ultimately, the hemorrhoid dries out and then falls off on its own. The procedure takes just 10 minutes a day, enough time for insertion of the compound into the rectum.
I stayed at the Hilton Suites Hotel in Markham, Canada. Today, I am hemorrhoid free. I have heard many horror stories about hemorrhoidal surgery. In my case, not only did I not have surgery, but also no complications, pain or scaring.....and for this I am ever grateful to the Chinese doctors who were wonderful and caring people. My total cost was $2,000 for the procedure which in my case took 3 weeks due to the severity of my stage 3 condition.
I wish to thank the owners of this forum for making this site available to the numerous sufferers whose lifestyles have been ravaged by this condition.
IS THIS TREATMENT AVAILABLE IN FLORIDA ? FOR CANADA IS WAY TO FAR A TRAVEL FOR ME . IF THERE IS A CENTER HERE IN FLORIDA , A CONTACT WILL BE GREATLY APPRECEIATED. I'VE BEEN LIVING WITH THIS FOR TO LONG . I NEED A RELIEF .
Rady: Not available in the states. You need to go to Toronto or Vancouver
THEN PEOPLE LIKE US IN THIS REGION WILL CONTINUE TO SUFFER BECAUSE WE ARE UNABLE TO TRAVEL THAT FAR . IT'S SO SAD TO HEAR THIS . UNTIL THERE IS AN AVAILABILITY HERE IN FLORIDA , CONGRADULATIONS TO THOSE WHO HAVE RECEIVED TREATMENT . ALSO ,WHY IS THERE NOT A INSATUTATION AVAIABLE IN FLORIDA IF THE TREATMENT IS ALL THAT GOOD . IS IT THAT IT'S NOT APPROVED IN THE GOOD OLD U.S.A .???? I NEED ANSWERS....
Thank you for the information here. Because of it, I decided to travel to Vancouver from California to have the treatment. I am on the second day. I will be here another 10 days. Like everyone else, the pain, discomfort and weight loss has taken a great toll on me and I'm giving this a shot before considering surgery.
My experience so far is excellent. The doctors are kind and professional, and the camraderie with others in the waiting room is fantastic.
It's not cheap. My treatment is costing $3000. I'll need to return to Vancouver in one month, incurring further travel costs. I want very much to tell you all at the end of this process that it was all worth it! I'll keep you posted.
Yesterday was the "intense day" with the primary work on the hems and fissure. After returning to my room early afternoon, I was in significant pain for about 3 hours. It leveled off after that. The pain was like a BM with fissure, but that continued for 3 hours. Not fun. But after waking this morning, I find some of the multiple hems I have are already releasing. I'm very hopeful.
I'll keep you posted! I know how important this information is to everyone!
Sheckum... I wish you well. Please keep us informed of your progress. Sincerely, Martinv
Thanks Martinv. Day 5 and I have "passed" 3 golf ball size polyps, along with bits of both the internal and external hems. No one in the States said a word about polyps to me in the two years this has been getting progressively worse. The difference in my body, the sense of relief is indescribable. Each day, the procedure is less and less painful. I have been worrying about the cost I'm incurring for awhile now, but all that dissipated with the 3rd passing this morning. This is unbelievably affordable, given its effectiveness. Do not be afraid of Asian medicine.
Martinv, I appreciate immensely your time, energy and vigilance in continuosly sharing your experience. I never would have come without it. I hope the word will spread, and especially that the method will be approved in the U.S. Someday...
Rebecca
Hello,
I have been reading the posts here regarding the NATCM clinic. I have been to their website and they have some pretty amazing claims there. I have been suffering from an in-ano-fistula for 10 yrs. now. I cannot put up with it anymore and have come to the realization I need help to heal it. thankfully no hemmoroids.
I have researched the LIFT and VAAFT technique for surgury. VAAFT makes sense but as with the painful LIFT technique it to is not a 100% cure. VAAFt is only done in Italy, India and Singapore to my knowledge. This NATCM seems to be a chance one would like to take. 8 yrs ago I was on my death bed due to Colitis and through a series of people trying to help me a I came across a doctor who practiced Tibetan Dur Bon medicine. For 6 or 8 months (i forget now) I went to a clinic and a woman rubbed special herbal cream all over my body, basically following energy meridians. Some how this worked and got me living again. I had been on long term disability for 4 yrs prior to that. As my strength had returned I began working full time again and have been for the last 6 yrs. Unfortunetly I am left with this extra hole in my rectum.
I do not tell you this story in an attempt to verify the chinese herbal NATCM cream, I have not tried it. Everything is made up of energy, and energy follows thought. Faith and belief are big healers.
I am researching into going to Vancouver's NATCM clinic. I've asked them to get me intouch with actual patients who have had fistulas heal up. They said they will attempt to do so. We will see and I will keep this site posted on what happens.
It all seems quite varied this info here. Some say $3,000 and someone said it costs $20,000? Wow. And I feel great sorrow for the woman who seems to be in the 2% who are unsuccessful with the NATCM creams.
I truely believe that life is not meant to be so painful and un-fun. There must be a simple answer.
Namaste..
I was one of the very first caucasians treated at the Toronto NACTM clinic. For approx. 12 years I suffered from external hemorrhoids, a fissure and a 2.5 fistula. I was only missing internal hemorrhoids to complete the grand slam. Needless to say I was in excrutiating daily pain and my entire life was dictated by the monsters down below.
Please understand that our problems are glorified paper cuts. If they were just about anywhere else on the body all you would have to do is stick a bandaid on them and then let the body do the rest of the work.
When anal problems become too chronic the body can never get a leg up to fix the problem because there is feces coming by the wounds every day.
The five generations of NATCM docs have a process that deal with this effectively. Their proprietary ointments rebuild skin while their daily treatment protocol takes care of the fact that the area is germ infested and unclean.
The NATCM people have 50 hospitals and clinics and have treated over 3 million people. Again, this is a simple problem if it were not for the location.
As for my condition, it took 5 weeks to fix. I was completely healed. If you scope my rear end there are no scars or compromises. I am one of many successes. In fact, the NATCM have a money back guarantee. When is the last time a medical procedure gave you a money back guarantee.
I hope this helps. Good luck.