Im 34yr old female... I had gall bladder surgery just 1 month ago. A few days after I felt needle like numbish pain on my upper legs which increased over next few days. Heavy clothing is painful.. Sleep is broken and restless. I can't sleep with my husband since my legs hurt if he just brushes against me. I spoke to my surgeon and he said either i have a nutritional deficiency of b12 , pinched a nerve or I have some nerve damage from surgery... ( I had to go out of state for surgery ,no insurance and crappy county hospital) surgeon said to see family dr. I finally got medi- cal so now waiting to get into see a dr. Hopefully he can figure it out. I don't think my surgeon did anything wrong he did tell me the risk but this surgery wasn't elective...my gallbladder was filled with stones till it was softball size... ( county emergency room definition of your surgery isnt emergency its elective: your gallbladder hasnt burst yet and you have no insurance)
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Hi, had my gallbladder taken out Dec. 2010, then developed this pain on rt side. Couldn't eat, nothing worked until after mtg w/many drs. I came across 1 who said ok, new diet.... No meats, no food from an animal (ex. eggs/milk), no wheat, rye, barley, breads. Basically all I can eat is vegetables, almond milk, fruits. After doing this it worked i started to feel better and slowly introduced other foods (oatmeal, rice, jello). Only drank water. To this day almost always drink water. After all this about 90% pain went away but when i began eating again slowly pain crept up. Now taking Omeprazol (I believe it called) which has helped to reduce bile produced by liver or something going into the stomach. The reason for the diet change is to reduce inflammation in intestines and body as well as the sugar. I hope this helps u. God Bless. :)
you are not alone i have had same exact issues for over 4 years with minamal relief. ihave had injections that led to muscle atrophy(sp) in my abdomine. i have some relief with pain pills, but had to come to realize i now am on them for rest of my life. unless a miricle comes my way sorry. wish it was a better answer for you. i have had meny (5) different issues and have now settled on the nerve damage as what really the major one.
I have suffered nerve damage for over 7 years. It took 5 years to diagnose. I am on Lyrica and topical freezing as well. I think they want to do surgery now to resection the nerve to a healthy nerve. I am still working full time but that is all I can do. It is totally exhausting working full time with this kind of pain. I feel bad for my family. I don't know if anyone else had this done and if it works or not.
Get her an ERCP with Manometry too see if she has Sphincter of Oddi Dysfunction. It is most common in young white females after gallbladder surgery. The Mayo Clinic website has lots of info. I have SOD and had the operation but it didn't really help my pain. But, I pray it works for her. It started on my 29th birthday and I still have it 41/2 years later. Good luck!
since there has still been no relief from this issue. I am trying anny and all things possible. recently i was sent to physical therapy, with no real hope of it to help. BUT then was recomended because of all issues on going that i go see a physical therapist that specializes in INTERNAL MEDICINE- but its physical therapy too. i have these appointments in june- i will let you know if they helped- keep your fingers crossed. they explained taht after so many different procedures that the body may not have gone back to the way it was. With parts removed and manipulated to remove things- the therapist that suggested this (at another office not hers) had undergone this treatment a few years back and felt it would be most helpful with what i have been going through. she did not even do a intake with me there because they did not offer these practices.
i can almost guarantee that you have scar tissue growing from the surgery. It only gets worse and i am not sure a surgeon can help.as it will grow back.
steve
steve
Hi guys, i just wanted to Post an UPDATE on my situation, as when all this first happened to me i struggled to find information. I found people with same problem on sites like this, but no one ever updated on their progress so i want to do this for the future people who might indure this horrible problem.
It has now been almost 2 years since my gall bladder op which caused the pain.
About 6 months in i had some localised Steroid injections which prooved helpful and got me off my back.
I have also since had some electro currents put through my nerves T5 through to T12, had this done 3 times but no success so we have moved on from this.
today we went about to distinguish which nerve exactly is causing the pain. My pain is under my right rib cage and goes round up under my boob, under my arm around to back. Pain is horrendous. on ongoing pain killers which some what help, but still can't live a normal life of any activity (tramadol sr 200mg, lyrica 300mg, norspan patch 20mg).
My pain specialist has done a few nerve blocks with just a local anaesethic today to try and figure out exactly which nerves are causing my pain.
We have got it down to T7 & T8.
I know, you would have different nerve numbers involved but just wanted to let you know where i am at with treatment. I have 4 options from here.
1.Spinal Cord Stimulator - not real keen on this idea as don't want them touching my spine, and also as you will feel the constant vibration of the device. Plus not keen on the implanted box.
2.Peripheral Neuro Stimulator - same implanted box, but wired into the actual nerves under my rib cage rather than into spine.
3. Thermal Neorotom (nerve burn), basically burning off the nerves involved, will result in numb area, they will grow back within the year. risk of pain being worse of return, but process can be repeated.
4. Phenol Asletion (chemical), bacically same as nerve burn above but the chemical liquid is pump into nerve instead, kills off nerve in same way, will result in numb area, but hey better than pain!! and nerve can grow back etc as per nerve burn.
At this stage i have option 4 booked in. There is no reason why it should not work now we know the nerve causing the pain.
Will continue to update when i can.
If anybody want further details please message me and i can even give you my pain specialists details. I am in Cairns, Australia.
It has now been almost 2 years since my gall bladder op which caused the pain.
About 6 months in i had some localised Steroid injections which prooved helpful and got me off my back.
I have also since had some electro currents put through my nerves T5 through to T12, had this done 3 times but no success so we have moved on from this.
today we went about to distinguish which nerve exactly is causing the pain. My pain is under my right rib cage and goes round up under my boob, under my arm around to back. Pain is horrendous. on ongoing pain killers which some what help, but still can't live a normal life of any activity (tramadol sr 200mg, lyrica 300mg, norspan patch 20mg).
My pain specialist has done a few nerve blocks with just a local anaesethic today to try and figure out exactly which nerves are causing my pain.
We have got it down to T7 & T8.
I know, you would have different nerve numbers involved but just wanted to let you know where i am at with treatment. I have 4 options from here.
1.Spinal Cord Stimulator - not real keen on this idea as don't want them touching my spine, and also as you will feel the constant vibration of the device. Plus not keen on the implanted box.
2.Peripheral Neuro Stimulator - same implanted box, but wired into the actual nerves under my rib cage rather than into spine.
3. Thermal Neorotom (nerve burn), basically burning off the nerves involved, will result in numb area, they will grow back within the year. risk of pain being worse of return, but process can be repeated.
4. Phenol Asletion (chemical), bacically same as nerve burn above but the chemical liquid is pump into nerve instead, kills off nerve in same way, will result in numb area, but hey better than pain!! and nerve can grow back etc as per nerve burn.
At this stage i have option 4 booked in. There is no reason why it should not work now we know the nerve causing the pain.
Will continue to update when i can.
If anybody want further details please message me and i can even give you my pain specialists details. I am in Cairns, Australia.
Hi guys, i just wanted to Post an UPDATE on my situation, as when all
this first happened to me i struggled to find information. I found
people with same problem on sites like this, but no one ever updated on
their progress so i want to do this for the future people who might
indure this horrible problem.
It has now been almost 2 years since my gall bladder op which caused the pain.
About 6 months in i had some localised Steroid injections which prooved helpful and got me off my back.
I have also since had some electro currents put through my nerves T5 through to T12, had this done 3 times but no success so we have moved on from this.
today we went about to distinguish which nerve exactly is causing the pain. My pain is under my right rib cage and goes round up under my boob, under my arm around to back. Pain is horrendous. on ongoing pain killers which some what help, but still can't live a normal life of any activity (tramadol sr 200mg, lyrica 300mg, norspan patch 20mg).
My pain specialist has done a few nerve blocks with just a local anaesethic today to try and figure out exactly which nerves are causing my pain.
We have got it down to T7 & T8.
I know, you would have different nerve numbers involved but just wanted to let you know where i am at with treatment. I have 4 options from here.
1.Spinal Cord Stimulator - not real keen on this idea as don't want them touching my spine, and also as you will feel the constant vibration of the device. Plus not keen on the implanted box.
2.Peripheral Neuro Stimulator - same implanted box, but wired into the actual nerves under my rib cage rather than into spine.
3. Thermal Neorotom (nerve burn), basically burning off the nerves involved, will result in numb area, they will grow back within the year. risk of pain being worse of return, but process can be repeated.
4. Phenol Asletion (chemical), bacically same as nerve burn above but the chemical liquid is pump into nerve instead, kills off nerve in same way, will result in numb area, but hey better than pain!! and nerve can grow back etc as per nerve burn.
At this stage i have option 4 booked in. There is no reason why it should not work now we know the nerve causing the pain.
Will continue to update when i can.
If anybody want further details please message me and i can even give you my pain specialists details. I am in Cairns, Australia.
I hope this helps.
It has now been almost 2 years since my gall bladder op which caused the pain.
About 6 months in i had some localised Steroid injections which prooved helpful and got me off my back.
I have also since had some electro currents put through my nerves T5 through to T12, had this done 3 times but no success so we have moved on from this.
today we went about to distinguish which nerve exactly is causing the pain. My pain is under my right rib cage and goes round up under my boob, under my arm around to back. Pain is horrendous. on ongoing pain killers which some what help, but still can't live a normal life of any activity (tramadol sr 200mg, lyrica 300mg, norspan patch 20mg).
My pain specialist has done a few nerve blocks with just a local anaesethic today to try and figure out exactly which nerves are causing my pain.
We have got it down to T7 & T8.
I know, you would have different nerve numbers involved but just wanted to let you know where i am at with treatment. I have 4 options from here.
1.Spinal Cord Stimulator - not real keen on this idea as don't want them touching my spine, and also as you will feel the constant vibration of the device. Plus not keen on the implanted box.
2.Peripheral Neuro Stimulator - same implanted box, but wired into the actual nerves under my rib cage rather than into spine.
3. Thermal Neorotom (nerve burn), basically burning off the nerves involved, will result in numb area, they will grow back within the year. risk of pain being worse of return, but process can be repeated.
4. Phenol Asletion (chemical), bacically same as nerve burn above but the chemical liquid is pump into nerve instead, kills off nerve in same way, will result in numb area, but hey better than pain!! and nerve can grow back etc as per nerve burn.
At this stage i have option 4 booked in. There is no reason why it should not work now we know the nerve causing the pain.
Will continue to update when i can.
If anybody want further details please message me and i can even give you my pain specialists details. I am in Cairns, Australia.
I hope this helps.
hi there, please don't give up hope, i have just posted an update on my pain, with 4 options which might be able to help you out also. read below. Guest123!
Hi everyone, so sorry to hear about all the pain, and suffering you are going through. I had my gall bladder surgery in 2002, with pain immediately after I was told it was scar tissue. Recently went to a pain management doctor, he did an ultrasound, and said the nerve was cut during the gall bladder surgery, and gave my an injection. Hoping it works, but he said if it doesn't he will kill the nerve. Last resort but after 10 years, ready for some relief.
THIS IS EXACTLY what I am going through NOW!! And then some!
THANK YOU for this!
NOW I know that I AM NOT C-R-A-Z-Y!!
I had Gallbladder & Stones removal surgery this past JUNE 1st, 2012 and have BURNED & SUFFERED since that night and especially the next day after and every day since.
I've explained it to everyone, all doctors and my family/friends and so on, AS this....... "IT feels like someone DOUWSED me with gasoline and took a match & lit it & through it on me & SET ME ON F-I-R-E!!!!!
I woke up this a.m. crying, very depressed because the SEVERE and B-U-R-N-I-N-G pain was not tolerable. Over the past two weeks it's not only throughout & on my right side (back, spine, rt. shoulder blade, rt. side ribs & abdomen & in incisions), but it has spreaded the same way throughout my left side too in the exact same manner.....but is both right side and left now.
This afternoon, on AUGUST 8th, 2012, I saw a new primary doctor hoping it would do some good too, and I told him I JUST WANT SOMEBODY TO SEND ME FOR TESTS to find out what's WRONG with me!! I only prescribed me med's, NO TESTS!!
Last week, I FIRED my old primary doc, and hoped that this new one could help me. He just wants me to take these med's, BUT.... if the GASTROLOGIST that done the gallbladder surgery has done this to me and caused me permanent NERVE DAMAGE that has already changed my LIFE, then I AM GOING TO DO SOMETHING about it> I am going to have to! I will not be able to survive without being tested and teated properly. I am not recieving any positive answers from the docs, just.......that it sounds like I have NERVE DAMAGE.
Today the new primary told me to take Lyrica 50 mg along with Cymbalta too. He and all others tell me that Lyrica will help with NERVE DAMAGE, but.....I'm worried because it's side effects include suicidal thoughts, etc..... I am in pain and am already depressed!
They have NOT sent me for tests for NERVE DAMAGE and they should, right??
They should be running tests to see what type , how severe, and diagnose me the right way.
IT seems like once I have to tell them the name of the GASTROLOGIST that actually performed the gallbladder removal surgery on 06/01/2012, then they just don't want to do nothing for me! They even admit they know who he was and how good he is. That's all!
After now seeing 2 Neurologists, 3 Gastrologists, 2 GI Specialist's, 2 Primary's, 3 Hospitals, 1 Rheumatologist, and the list goes on.... not to mention I'll be seeing a new NEUROLOGIST on Monday who will finally be conducting a Nerve Study & Muscle test on me hopefully in the near future, well, I can only dream right?
I DO NOT TRUST THE DR.'S, bcs., like you said....., "the DOC's are NOT going home at night thinking about me and my pain and my suffering", so, I WILL continue to seek help for myself and tomorrow I will be contacting a PAIN MANAGEMENT facility as well as I'm going to do more research online in a moment!
I NEED YOU TO KNOW, that YOU have indeed helped someone!
My READING your post above (and others) have given me more confidence in myself that I AM NOT CRAZY, that what I AM EXPERIENCING is REAL and i will NOT give up believing in myself because the doctors just think half of what i say is in my head!
I know it's NOT NORMAL and something needs to be done about it so I can go back to my life before my case gets to the point of no return.
THANK YOU!!!
If anyone has an update of their case or any helpful info, please post it.....GOD BLESS!
DEBBIE
THANK YOU for this!
NOW I know that I AM NOT C-R-A-Z-Y!!
I had Gallbladder & Stones removal surgery this past JUNE 1st, 2012 and have BURNED & SUFFERED since that night and especially the next day after and every day since.
I've explained it to everyone, all doctors and my family/friends and so on, AS this....... "IT feels like someone DOUWSED me with gasoline and took a match & lit it & through it on me & SET ME ON F-I-R-E!!!!!
I woke up this a.m. crying, very depressed because the SEVERE and B-U-R-N-I-N-G pain was not tolerable. Over the past two weeks it's not only throughout & on my right side (back, spine, rt. shoulder blade, rt. side ribs & abdomen & in incisions), but it has spreaded the same way throughout my left side too in the exact same manner.....but is both right side and left now.
This afternoon, on AUGUST 8th, 2012, I saw a new primary doctor hoping it would do some good too, and I told him I JUST WANT SOMEBODY TO SEND ME FOR TESTS to find out what's WRONG with me!! I only prescribed me med's, NO TESTS!!
Last week, I FIRED my old primary doc, and hoped that this new one could help me. He just wants me to take these med's, BUT.... if the GASTROLOGIST that done the gallbladder surgery has done this to me and caused me permanent NERVE DAMAGE that has already changed my LIFE, then I AM GOING TO DO SOMETHING about it> I am going to have to! I will not be able to survive without being tested and teated properly. I am not recieving any positive answers from the docs, just.......that it sounds like I have NERVE DAMAGE.
Today the new primary told me to take Lyrica 50 mg along with Cymbalta too. He and all others tell me that Lyrica will help with NERVE DAMAGE, but.....I'm worried because it's side effects include suicidal thoughts, etc..... I am in pain and am already depressed!
They have NOT sent me for tests for NERVE DAMAGE and they should, right??
They should be running tests to see what type , how severe, and diagnose me the right way.
IT seems like once I have to tell them the name of the GASTROLOGIST that actually performed the gallbladder removal surgery on 06/01/2012, then they just don't want to do nothing for me! They even admit they know who he was and how good he is. That's all!
After now seeing 2 Neurologists, 3 Gastrologists, 2 GI Specialist's, 2 Primary's, 3 Hospitals, 1 Rheumatologist, and the list goes on.... not to mention I'll be seeing a new NEUROLOGIST on Monday who will finally be conducting a Nerve Study & Muscle test on me hopefully in the near future, well, I can only dream right?
I DO NOT TRUST THE DR.'S, bcs., like you said....., "the DOC's are NOT going home at night thinking about me and my pain and my suffering", so, I WILL continue to seek help for myself and tomorrow I will be contacting a PAIN MANAGEMENT facility as well as I'm going to do more research online in a moment!
I NEED YOU TO KNOW, that YOU have indeed helped someone!
My READING your post above (and others) have given me more confidence in myself that I AM NOT CRAZY, that what I AM EXPERIENCING is REAL and i will NOT give up believing in myself because the doctors just think half of what i say is in my head!
I know it's NOT NORMAL and something needs to be done about it so I can go back to my life before my case gets to the point of no return.
THANK YOU!!!
If anyone has an update of their case or any helpful info, please post it.....GOD BLESS!
DEBBIE
it is disgraceful how some of the doctors/specialist treat people with this pain.
I too am afraid i have been treated too late. I am almost 2 years now into the pain and have only had a nerve block done a month ago and It is not working completely. If they had just done it in the first place my pain cycle may have reset. I am fed up with some medical practisioners. they can't know what you are going through unless it happens to them, if i hear one more person say it's all in your head i am going to scream at them.
I too am afraid i have been treated too late. I am almost 2 years now into the pain and have only had a nerve block done a month ago and It is not working completely. If they had just done it in the first place my pain cycle may have reset. I am fed up with some medical practisioners. they can't know what you are going through unless it happens to them, if i hear one more person say it's all in your head i am going to scream at them.
YEAH! So, tomorrow I go to my 1st appt. at the PAIN MANAGEMENT CENTER that i researched online. I'm looking forward to it and can hardly wait! Their nurse called me the day after i left the 1st message. She listened to my recent experience (the bad surgery i had on June 1st this year). SHE said the most COMFORTING THING to me...., "IT'S NOT IN Y-O-U-R HEAD!" I broke down and cried bcs. SOMEONE finally UNDERSTANDS what I am going through and she IS a NURSE and cares to hear everything i've been going through. She even asked me about all the previous medical diagnoses/conditions, such as Rheumatoid Arthritis, Chronic Migraines, severe foot, leg and hand edema and pain, etc...., etc...... and i even explained to her that i have only taken Naproxen/Aleve or Advil over the years for any condition and how much i despise narcotics and how i have always been afraid to take med's because of how addictive they are (saw narcotics being abused w/in my own family growing up), so i guess i am the lucky one.....bcs., i am the only sibling even today at 43 yrs. old, who is not addicted to or who was strong enough to keep saying "NO" to drugs, unlike my family, siblings and others.
I am fortunate in that way, however, at this point with the SEVERE PAIN i'm having to endure since JUNE 1st, 2012, well, i almost will consider taking rx narcotics, but.... only if the PAIN MANAGEMENT CENTER can convince me that they will run tests 1st before prescribing me anything. Secondly, if they agree to try using other methods to help me before rx's. Thirdly, if they continue to see me and monitor me and take blood tests/other, to assure that the med's are not affecting me in a bad way. I am a mom first! I was forced to ENDURE 100% of the BURNING EXCRUTIATING PAIN from the Nerve Damage since June 1st, 2012 and now it's August 15th, so......I WILL SURVIVE THIS!!
**The PAIN MANAGEMENT CENTER actually does everything and treats many conditions, depreesion, arthritis, old/new injuries and so much more and have Aquatics and many other therapies, etc.....to help all.
*****I HOPE YOU CAN TRY THE FOLLOWING, like i have been doing so.....PLEASE READ below;
--- BUY some Large GALLON size ZIPPER ZIPLOC BAGS, go to your ice-maker on your fridge, etc...., or BUY some bags of ICE at your local convenient store and put them in your freezer at home.
--- FILL those ZIPPER ZIPLOC BAGS 3/4 filled each and place/keep it in your FREEZER..
--- Everytime the pain worsens, take out 2, 3 or more of your FROZEN bags of ICE, wrap each inside of a pillowcase and roll the rest of it up in the long material of your pillowcases that is left over, and APPLY each cold compress to areas of the body where you are in pain. DO this as MANY times as necessary.....and DO NOT HESITATE in repeating it as often as you need to because it WILL truly GIVE YOU RELIEF!!
***THIS has HELPED me alot, along with NAPROXEN prescribed to me @ 550 mg. by my primary physician.
ALSO, warm/cool SHOWERS throughout the day, night, etc.... help to cool me down because the hot burning stonging pains can be so SEVERE that i have to cool myself down in the shower so that i can handles the HEAT of pain and flashes of hot that i experience when i began to sweat because the pain is worse!
I will UPDATE my own situation on here throughout each week to show my own results after going to the PAIN MANAGEMENT CENTER starting tomorrow!
I am ANXIOUS to see them! Can't wait to let EVERYONE know how it goes!
Hope this is HELPFUL!
1Debbie1
I am fortunate in that way, however, at this point with the SEVERE PAIN i'm having to endure since JUNE 1st, 2012, well, i almost will consider taking rx narcotics, but.... only if the PAIN MANAGEMENT CENTER can convince me that they will run tests 1st before prescribing me anything. Secondly, if they agree to try using other methods to help me before rx's. Thirdly, if they continue to see me and monitor me and take blood tests/other, to assure that the med's are not affecting me in a bad way. I am a mom first! I was forced to ENDURE 100% of the BURNING EXCRUTIATING PAIN from the Nerve Damage since June 1st, 2012 and now it's August 15th, so......I WILL SURVIVE THIS!!
**The PAIN MANAGEMENT CENTER actually does everything and treats many conditions, depreesion, arthritis, old/new injuries and so much more and have Aquatics and many other therapies, etc.....to help all.
*****I HOPE YOU CAN TRY THE FOLLOWING, like i have been doing so.....PLEASE READ below;
--- BUY some Large GALLON size ZIPPER ZIPLOC BAGS, go to your ice-maker on your fridge, etc...., or BUY some bags of ICE at your local convenient store and put them in your freezer at home.
--- FILL those ZIPPER ZIPLOC BAGS 3/4 filled each and place/keep it in your FREEZER..
--- Everytime the pain worsens, take out 2, 3 or more of your FROZEN bags of ICE, wrap each inside of a pillowcase and roll the rest of it up in the long material of your pillowcases that is left over, and APPLY each cold compress to areas of the body where you are in pain. DO this as MANY times as necessary.....and DO NOT HESITATE in repeating it as often as you need to because it WILL truly GIVE YOU RELIEF!!
***THIS has HELPED me alot, along with NAPROXEN prescribed to me @ 550 mg. by my primary physician.
ALSO, warm/cool SHOWERS throughout the day, night, etc.... help to cool me down because the hot burning stonging pains can be so SEVERE that i have to cool myself down in the shower so that i can handles the HEAT of pain and flashes of hot that i experience when i began to sweat because the pain is worse!
I will UPDATE my own situation on here throughout each week to show my own results after going to the PAIN MANAGEMENT CENTER starting tomorrow!
I am ANXIOUS to see them! Can't wait to let EVERYONE know how it goes!
Hope this is HELPFUL!
1Debbie1
i am haveing the same problem and the doctors just push me off im sorry that your going through this and im glad its not in my head as one doc put it