This is in reply to Done & Gibson if you see this, congrats to you both! I quit a few wks ago. I check this thread once a month or two and reply to people but no one replies back even though I'm taking the little time I have to be nice by offering a reply to questions they are asking, so Im not gonna be checking in again. However, I appreciate you twos friendship & am glad we were able to talk during tough times.
If anyone's care extends beyond getting answers to their q's only.... i quit by taking Oxys for two wks & 1 8 mg sub over 5 days tapering. When I stopped everything I felt minimal WDs...nothing in comparison toCT 5 day WD off OxyContin or any other opiate I've done emal, & WD CT from em all except sub till now. Idk if it was b/c of using barely any sub when I did for yrs & starting 2 take two wk breaks of sub use with opiate use or what but my overall WDs were the equivalent to minor discomfort of being sick working out too hard or being hung over vs anything I've ever experienced through cold turkey WD off a every other opiate I've ever taken. 1 struggle has been sleep (to an extent)but nothing any melatonin or OTC sh*t couldn't fix. Anxiety or mental WD is a factor but nothing really with Xanax occasionally or something similar. Mentally I just hate pills now so it hasn't been too tough. After 2wks, I hate the thought of being addicted to anything so much that I have no desire what so ever. Energy has been the only other struggle but there's plenty of herbs, vitamins, caffeine or anything like that that can easily give energy needed for a month or two tiill I'm back to normal. I've found quitting to be like dieting or any chore you procrastinate on. Actually starting to do it it and doing it iswaaaay easier than the thoughts and struggle/worry leading up to it. Then once you're off, it's like...idk what the big del was in hindsight. Best of luck to all of you. You can and will do it when you want. Enjoy and be well! Also, it was a lot easier after i stopped talking to anyone who does any drugs r sells them. im too busy for real friends sadly and barely get to see them...so cutting out fake friends w/barely any free time snywys was pretty easy. Sincerely, Erin
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I was a addicted to Oxycontine 80 mg did 1 to 1 in a half a day. I was 19 going on 20 an needed to make a change to my life so I found out about Suboxone an started taking them. The orange ones. I dont no if its 8 or 2mg because my bottle says 8/2 mg. I started off with 3 a day an 5 years later I take around 3-4ths of a quarter of the pill a day. I ruined my teeth an need 8 gs worth of dental. I had no idea when I first started that I could get addicted to it like drugs. Its a different addiction tho you dont crave it but when u try an stop u get just as sick if not worse then the real drugs you were doing before. I am trying to get off it and am taking less every day almost. But I am scared an starting to bad anxiety, which is something I feel I can deal with an isnt as bad for as the hot an cold sweets an the awful feeling in my legs that feel like jellow, the mood swings an when Im dope sick I also have to pee alot lol. I feel like right now I cant do anything with my life to I get off. I just cant get off as long as im with drawing the longest I went was 4 days an It got worse every day, most say suboxone withdrawel is something that last weeks if not months an I no I cant do that. I dont wanna use an wont I been clean for 5 years. I need help tho to get off an I got no idea what to do to help with the withdrawels. I feel trapped I really do. No one told me jack about any of this c**p when I saw the doctor. Yes it helped me get sober an allowed me to finally not want to use drugs an live a different life but its time I continue to live a different life an a better one an get off this sh*t. If any one can help me id appreciate it alot.
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CONGRATS Erin - I check in occasionally to see how everything is going. SUPER glad you did it. Keep it up.
Always wondered about you. Awesome news!!!!!!!
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Good job Erin I'm glad you finally made the jump i was worried you wouldn't. After a month I still have lack of energy and stomach issues but nothing to bad to make me go back. I'm not even sure if any of what I do have will go away or if I did some damage to myself.
Guest: all I can suggest is to cut down to hardly nothing then ride it out. It sucks but it'll get better try Imodium.
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Hi, I just wrote a long reply and lost it :( I have been on buprenorphine for over 4 years now and I'm not sure if I will ever be able to get off of this med. I read somewhere that if you've been on it too long that it damages you permanetely :( I've tried so many times to get off. I am currently taking 4 mgs. per day (that is my highest). I was down to 2 mgs. and then 1 mg. and I also experienced cold turkey for 17 days. I'm so afraid and feel so alone. I do not think the doctors understand this med (that's just my opinion). I'd rather talk to people who have been on it because I feel that you all understand. Erin, it sounds like you're doing great and that you will beat this. Great job!!!!!!! Is there anyone here that's been on it as long as I have? I was very excited to read Big A's first message (that is how I found this site), but then I read that he/she is no longer replying to messages here :( I'd love to talk to anyone who understands. Sincerely, Larsy :)
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I was on it for over 4 years.. I'm 8.5 months clean. I feel great. You will too. Don't let some of these doomsayers affect you. It may take a little longer for you because you were on it for a while but you'll feel that much better when you're off. You're not alone. I would suggest going to an NA meeting. I felt alone until I went to meetings where people were all in the same boat. I'm happy to share my experiences. Stay strong.
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I was on it for a long period of time. I was on opiates for about 6 years. It was bad. I blew a good million bucks or so over those years, lost my biz, lost pretty much everything. Went on subs, then quit. I would say its 95 percent mental. Once you figure out the mental side to it, it really is a breeze. The physical pain sucks but it really only lasts about one week aas long as you got the mental part down. So first get yourself mentally right, then quit. I know its easier said then done, but once you do it you will understand what im sayin. I was in the same boat as everyone else, and now I feel great. And its honestly hard as hell to explain, but if you just trust what im sayin you will see. I wouldnt go back to taking opiates for 2 months or anything like that, but the less time on subs is better. Moral of the story is one, work on your head first, then just DO IT. Teach yourself the proper coping skills that work for you and it gets awesome. I feel like this post is scattered but its so true. After ten years of heavy use on everything, I am backto who I was at 23. Now im 33 and been clean for 1.5 years. I just got accepted into medical school and all. So it can be done. In about 6 months if you figure it out, then you will see what im sayin. First prep yourself mentally, quit, and your done. It is easy, but you can only say that once you get to where i am.
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I will check this every night if anyone wants to ask me questions. I am going to med schoo with full intentions on becoming a pyschiatrist to help people get past this life style. Figuring i have first hand experience I think I will be able to put myself in their shoes and talk them through it. So I would like to help, answer questions for awhile. I start school in august so I will be on here till then. After that I will spend all my time studying. Obviously there is alot more to my story so I will be happy to sharre any of my experiences. Done it all, and i mean all, not talking just about drugs. Ive done everything in life at least once. lol sad but true. you name it i tried it.
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u can do it just get back onto oxycodones then after a month or two do my method it works..use l[tyrosine b6 b12 and a cheleated multi mineral vitamins everyday at high levels...read my azcoolmans method back a few pages ive done it twice no problems i was on suboxone for years as well...
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Don't get back onto pain pills. It's so frustrating how many addicts want NOTHING to do with the pain and discomfort of withdrawal. There is NO WAY to get around it. You can minimize it. I know that I personally couldn't handle taking drugs to get off of drugs. If you want to run the risk of throwing yourself back into the vicious cycle, best of luck to you. You must be a stronger man the I.
That which does not kill us makes us stronger.
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Thank you so very much for replying to me. I appreciate all help. I understand that some people believe it can be done without opiates but I really do not believe I will ever get through this without some kind of an opiate. I take 4 mgs of buprenorphine per day (2 mgs in the morning and 2 in the late afternoon). I tried a few weeks ago to use the hydrocodones I had but by day 3 I gave in. I do have to admit that I wasn't as sick as I was cold turkey but still couldn't function. It must have done something. Maybe I need to get down to 1 mg. per day and then try again? I wish that I was able to get a hold of the hydrocodones after I got out of the hospital 2 years ago. I tried everything. I was going to order online even. I bet I would have been better so long ago. I do not think I will get addicted to an opiate. I'm just not like that (not saying I'm better than anyone, but even when I did have the opiates before the suboxone I never took them all the time. I knew they made me smoke like crazy and feel too good so I just only used them when I had a very bad headache or just was so depressed I decided to take one. I think everyone is so different. Why some people can still drink on suboxone and function normally is a perfect example. I do not want to sound like I'm better than anyone! I had natural highs just being with my daughters and listening to music and this is the worst punishment ever. My husband is no help at all. He just thinks he knows everything and has given up on me. It really bothers me because he is not perfect! I raised our children pretty much by myself, especially at the beginning. Yes we were very young (19) but I had to put up with him coming home with his buddies while I was nursing our newborn. I never complained though because I liked doing everything myself. Being a mother was all I ever really wanted and I wish I could go back so bad. Maybe I had too much fun and now this is my punishment? I'm not saying it was always easy. I was tired sometimes and depressed and anxious. It got worse when the girls went to school full time. I missed them and started to think about the two sisters I had lost just before I was married (well, my second sister passed away when our first child was almost 2). I remember thinking if I did not have my daughter I probably would have walked right out of that hospital straight into Lake Michigan without a thought, but I believe my baby was the reason I went on and a gift from GOD. Anyway, I forgot where I was going with this, lol I'm just so depressed and so tired of the fight. If I had a real sickness then people would understand. No one seems to understand so it's so lonely. I'm hoping to hear from you soon my new dear friend. Larsy :)
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THIS IS THE ONE PROVEN WAY OF GETTING OF SUBS... IT WORKS AND COUNTLESS FOLKS HAS USED IT AND ALL SUCCESS STORIES... NO joke about it. It's a little secret that is finally coming out to help us all.
I have done this and still great going till this day. I went from 12 10/325mg Norco (hydro's) a day to Imodium for a week and was fine. I did have klonopin to take as well. Imodium DOES work. You won't get stopped up severely to cause any complication.
Before you stop taking any opiate, start taking 1-3 tabs of the Imodium throughout the day for 2-3 days to get in your system.
Day 1 of NO opiates/SUB: 7-10 tabs at one time in the morning of the Imodium, do this 3 times a day and gradually decrease the tabs (1-2 a day) after 3 days of doing this straight.
You might not #2 - but most of weren't anyway with opiates.
When I originally read this, I was like - no way, this can't work. But heck, I have tried everything from A-Z to stop the withdrawal, even suboxone (never take stuff regardless of what you are taking, sub is terrible thing)
IT DOES WORK ===== PERIOD.
Take the Imodium for 5-7 days and slowly taper down on them ****if on opiates
For sub, I would do this for a month. DON"T worry about your organs getting stopped up etc, won't happen. If you are worried about it, take OTC laxative and it will be fine.
I really think you need have anti-anxiety med to do this too, but nothing heavy.
Go to wal-mart and get 2 bottles of 72 each bottle for 10 bucks. That's all you need.
Occasionally I will take a Imodium if I even get a little mental angst in taking an opiate.
BOTTOM LINE: This does work! Read this thread for reference and type it in the search for this website: "Best Remedy for Opiate Withdrawals" .
I see a couple of folks struggling with sub and getting off of it. I did and SO-SO glad I did. Sub is the worst drug out there = PERIOD!
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