Same for me! I used H for about 2 years and opiates 2 years before that. Took subs for 7 days....felt fine, but not great! 3 days later.....after the subs are out of my system (they have a greater half life....so they take a long time to completely leave your system). I feel like sh*t! No energy, can't sleep, body cramps, tossing and turning an nd my stomach hurts so bad. 2 days of this sh*t and I just want to know when it's gonna end!
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I NEED HELP!!! I am an active everyday heroin user I snort the heroin. I have tried methadone and that made my addiction worst and I just tried to switch to subs and I went 14 hours after my last bag to wait to take the sub I took 4 mgs and felt instantly sick and restless then I took another 8 mgs and threw up and got super cold and sweaty it was so bad that I went and bought heroin and I did about a half gram I feel normal now not sick and not high but now I am back just getting high. I have no idea how to switch to subs so they work accurately! I need a lot of help!
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Wow this is exactly what im smoking and im trying to quit ASAP with suboxone but am deathly afraid of withdrawals
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Your best bet is to wait for the withdrawl to set in then take the sub i personally take 32 mg over the course of the first day the 8 mg on the sevond then nothing i will take 10mg of loperamide day 3-4 for the anxiety
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I have withdraws still on my first day it does not take withdraws away on the first day the suboxione sublig. Film is helpping a little im sweting hard core feel like sh*t totaly i hope that the next dose this hell will go away , i do a bundle of very high grade h . Now i an screwed im sick and h will not work and sub is not working this is bs you guys dont sell false dreams it takes 24-48 hours ontill the withdraws will be gone you still will sneeze and sh**s but ive done it before the 2nd day will work if you can get through 12-24 hours of hell you can do it if u can get trough 12hours of full on sick then it starts to kick in and you will be good . Thats real talk get ready for 12-24 hours of detox then it will fet easyer . You can do it sure beats 3-5 days of hell !
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Hypothetical- right now the "opiate response plan" in PBC Fl is to wait for an addict to die, and if Fire Rescue gets there in time and jacks you up with Narcan then they visit you at home for a few days giving you small does of suboxone to try & fix the addict. Claim between Fire Rescue and ER, especially if more advanced life saving options are required, the cost per Fatal Doser is in the $5k+ range. If a walking wounded program was available where an opiate addict could be admitted to hospital for 30 hours (possibly sedated, clonodined, or xanaxed) then given Dose #1 of Subutex and released to return to the ER for the next 3-4 days to get a booster subutex dose. Then moved to vularian root or xanan for 2-3 days (also return visit to ER booster administered). Would opiate addicts want/participate in a program like that? Also, if addicts who get arrested were offered the same kind of DETOX plan IN JAIL, with perhaps the vivitrol shot available before they are released- would addicts want/participate in a program like that.
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That's called a precipitated wd. You didn't wait long enough after your last dose of H. So, taking the subs (partial agonist) causes the sub to rip the opiate off of your brain receptors instead of allowing ample time to fade. This causes INSTANT wd.
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I'm also in Seattle and am about to be on suboxone from methadone for the first time in 6 years still using h on and off. I'm terrified of what's to come tho!
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It may sound insane or some would say a junkies move, but I did the same thing. Was on methadone for 15 years and had to switch to subs. After 9 months I was sick of taking them, after all I didn't feel any euphoria, it was just another habit. I heard the withdrawal sucks and takes a while so I figured if I did the h long enough to get off the subs, I could then use the last of my subs I put back to kick the h. I used the h for 2 months tapering off to only staying well the last days. 24 hours after when I started feeling withdrawal I took 8mg in morning and 8mg night. Each day I dropped it 4 mugs but on day 3 the anxiety was bad so I added Xanax just to ease that and by day 6 I was good. The anxiety I'm still dealing with which I expected since this is first time off everything after 20 years. It's scary but I believe the rewards will come.
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I have used this method successfully many times in the past, but not since going on and tapering off of methadone; your story gives me hope that a short-term bupe taper is still the way to go despite having several years of long-acting opiates under my belt in the mix. Thank you for that hope! I recently relapsed on oxys after legitimate pain issues/several surgeries and cannot remain on subs for too long due to an upcoming surgery where I will be put under anaesthesia (I buy subs from a friend so I do not want to disclose this to my surgeon who is already judgemental of me since I am an addict and honest/up-front about it). I have found that the anxiety lingers for me as well, but it is so rewarding to be free!
For six months I was 100% opiate-free after getting off of the clinic and in my experience the anxiety decreased over time (as your brain begins to heal and starts producing its own endorphins and dopamine again). For me, it diminished when it started to hit me that I don't have to depend on pills or dope to get out of bed, make it through work or worry about being dopesick on a holiday around family. Being able to wake up and not worry about if I had enough money to stay high for the day is such a great feeling as is paying my bills before they get a late fee! Boredom is hard, but not wondering if you will have to drive to one clinic during an impending snowstorm makes up for it 100 times.
Congratulations for getting off of both subs and methadone; 20 years is a long time and you are strong for taking that first step! I did have PAWS in those 6 months after the clinic, but reading about it, being prepared for it and recognizing each symptom for what it was as it happened helped me get through each day. Any time you feel anxious or shitty, just remember that "normal, non-using” people get these feelings too- it's just part of being human (that helped me too). I'm scared to do this as well, but it is worth it….I'll send positive thoughts your way!
For six months I was 100% opiate-free after getting off of the clinic and in my experience the anxiety decreased over time (as your brain begins to heal and starts producing its own endorphins and dopamine again). For me, it diminished when it started to hit me that I don't have to depend on pills or dope to get out of bed, make it through work or worry about being dopesick on a holiday around family. Being able to wake up and not worry about if I had enough money to stay high for the day is such a great feeling as is paying my bills before they get a late fee! Boredom is hard, but not wondering if you will have to drive to one clinic during an impending snowstorm makes up for it 100 times.
Congratulations for getting off of both subs and methadone; 20 years is a long time and you are strong for taking that first step! I did have PAWS in those 6 months after the clinic, but reading about it, being prepared for it and recognizing each symptom for what it was as it happened helped me get through each day. Any time you feel anxious or shitty, just remember that "normal, non-using” people get these feelings too- it's just part of being human (that helped me too). I'm scared to do this as well, but it is worth it….I'll send positive thoughts your way!
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Hello all I been doin large amounts of heroin for years and as of today it's my fifth day since picking up h and I tapered off suboxen only had two eight mil. Started with one full on Tuesday morningn than broke it up into four pieces wed thurs Friday and today's sat were I used my final tiny piece of a two mil . Hopefully lily the next few days I will feel good with no sub with drawl .weel see feels good just to know I don't have to cop today
Geo
Geo
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You have given me the confidence i need. I have been thinking in my head there's got to be a way similar to what I just read and I'm glad I was right now I just got to do it
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Love the post thanks! I'm going through it now and alot of what you said is dead on with how I've felt on those days. It will feel nice to not be a slave to any of this sh*t
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I know this is an old post. I have a question for anyone who has withdrew from h using short term subs or methadone. I have a 1 gram a day habit and yesterday did only about a dime or a tad more and this morning the same. Tomorrow I was going to try 8mg suboxone then 8 the next day then 4 the next then do 20 mgs methadone and 10 mg next day and stop? I have 4 8 mg subs and approx 60 mgs of metjafone but can get 80 more and if I did that then I was going to do 40 methadone 1st day 2nd day 40 3rd 20 4th 20 then stop.any suggestions with a short dub or methadone taper I also haze xanax and gabapentin.
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