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It's not that having Subs in your system and then taking a narcotic will cause you trouble. NO, generally you just won't feel the narcotic.

However, if you have a narcotic habit, take an 80 Oxy and then 2 hours later take an 8mg Sub... You WILL go into instant withdrawals! NO DOUBT!
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These days with heroin being mostly Fentanyl, the waiting periods have tripled. Fentanyl stays in your system a hell of a lot longer. I used to be able to go to bad at midnight & wake up 12 hrs later to take a full 8mg sub and feel brand new within 2 hours. This is all said by me from experience and others experiences in witnessed. 6 months ago I waited 96 hrs before taking a sub,. I just used the rehab comfort meds to get that for into withdrawal to be absolutely 150% positive I will not go unto precipitated withdrawal. Lol from waiting 24 hrs to 36, to 48, to 72 hrs. I PUT MYSELF INTO PRECIPITATED WITHDRAWAL LITERALLY AN ENTIRE MONTH STRAIGHT.. Every time it happened i would have to wait at least 24 hrs before I could go get more dope to pull me outta Precip. Then get high to regulate for a day or two and try a longer waiting time. Until I was so beat up I had to go to a detox for assistance. Now I'm sure it won't be that long for everybody. You see if don't eat or drink anything for 3 days during that waiting period, & that is a huge factor in how long it takes for you too piss them opiates out(flush the system) It's an impossible task for me, but I have also seen a friend who did 3 bundles of the same Philadelphia stuff i was getting and take a sub strip the next morning and be fine. And he is 65 and on dope twice as long as some people have been alive..
So I will answer your question in the best way that will help anyone to understand how this sh*t works and can understand that if you don't follow the rules of detoxing correctly, from CERTAIN opiates, YOU WILL WISH YOU WERE DEAD, just to feel better, lol.. Ok here goes.. ## 1 KNOW WHAT FORM OF OPIATE YOUR USING( guinea pig an expensive 12 panel over the counter UT, it'll tell u exactly what it's cut with. $20)better safe then sorry.. ## 2 AFTER KNOWING WHAT'S ACTUALLY IN UR SYSTEM, RESEARCH THE HALFLIFE(prescription pill opiates 12-24 HR wait time) (heroin 24-36hrs & fentanyl 36-72hrs) the lower times are for people drinking fluids and eating so they are pissing once an HR at least for a day straight & eating a few meals a day to get rid of all that build up inside you from getting high & having constipation as a normal thing. Flush.. ## 3 STAY OVER HYDRATED FOR AS LONG AS YOU CAN(time it from last use of opiates. Try to go at least 24 hrs of pissing every hr.. ## 4 TRY TO HAVE COMFORT MEDS TO TAKE THE EDGE OFF. 3 DAYS WORTH(if ur in a detox the nurse will be giving you this every 4-6 hrs) (detoxing on the streets, Adderall& Adavan/Valium combo w a sleeper that works for you(double down on it) there are facilities that are finally using this combo as comfort meds these days..i take a 20mg Addie and a 2 mg Adavan every 4 hrs once my withdrawal symptoms start and I almost don't feel like I am detoxing from 30 bags a day. And lets be real, our tolerance is so high with any narcotics when we are detoxing. If I took that amount of Addie's n Valium sober or even while in suboxone program is would be sleeping 18 HR days.. ##5 WHEN YOU THINK YOUR READY TO TAKE A SUBOXONE,depending on what's in ur system, WAIT ANOTHER 12 HOURS (trust me please) look up a detox test on ur phone called COWS. TAKE THE TEST( try not to cheat, you'll know if u cheated when it's too late, lol)I hope you never figure that out, for those of u that don't understand why u won't know if u cheated.. ## 6 EVERYONE'S DIFFERENT(metabolisms, body weight, tolerances, & experiences) "I, MYSELF, HAVE TO WAIT TILL I'M PISSING OUT MY ASS, WHILE PUKING In-between MY LEGS ON THE TOILET. HAVING HOT/COLD FLASHES(every 5-10 min)EYES TEARING & NOSE RUNNING BAD. SWEATING PROFUSELY AND HAVING A 15 SNEEZE FIT EVERY OTHER HOUR. THIS IS WHEN I KNOW I CAN TAKE A SUBOXONE.(my habits are always anywhere from 2 bundles & up to a brick of dope a day. Just to myself.. you will never get symptoms like that if ur coming off 2 bags a day. If u r , I call BS and that just means you haven't experienced real physical pain in ur life"YET". so get out and stay home , go to school or work and be with your family now , n never turn to look or come back. Your the ones that'll rob a gas station and kill a few people to try to get away with for $50 cause ur dope sick and can't take it anymore. Lol, sorry I'm off topic.. Some of you know exactly what I'm taking about though, lol.. OK.. ##7 IMPORTANT sh*t !!! DETOXES/REHABS TAKE CARE OF THIS PART... THOSE OF YOU DOING THIS THING AT HOME OR AT A HOTEL/FRIENDS HOUSE, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE AN EMERGENCY CONTACT THAT KNOWS WHERE YOUR AT AND WHAT YOU ATTEMPTING TO ACCOMPLISH. TELL THEM EVERYTHING THAT'S IMPORTANT(eating,drinking, flushing, that u may need them to go to store for u to get u more vital necessities for ur survival. Also, ur not going to sleep for 10-14 days and if ur dehydrated and malnutrition hits u, u do not wanna be behind the wheel of a car(I've done it many times& almost don't make it to the first destination and ditch car & uber back for safety reasons. You can kill someone doing stupid sh*t like that. Ciggs are important if u smoke but don't die for one... LIKE I SAY HAVE AN EMERGENCY CONTACT THAT WILL CHECK UP ON THINGS BUT KEEP THEIR DISTANCE UNLESS ITS NECESSARY. THIS COULD BE A SHITTY WITHDRAWAL FOR 2 DAYS, OR LIKE MY LAST AY HOME SELF REMEDY DETOX LASTED ME 11 DAYS DUE TO PRECIPITATED WITHDRAWAL LINGERING IN ME FOR LIKE 3-4 DAYS ON TOP OF THE INITIAL 72 HR WAIT before atttempting to eat the first suboxone.. Good Example:: WHEN YOUR READY TO ROB UR OWN MOTHERS PURSE FOR $$, STEAL UR DADS KEYS & CAR, SPEED TO THE DRUG SPOT NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY IT IS AND BANG AND SCREEM AT THEIR DOOR TO SERVE YOU DRUGS KNOWING IT'LL BE THE LAST TIME THEY DEAL W YOU, or EVEN BE WILLING TO JUST SCREW OVER ANYONE OR EVERYONE THAT CARES FOR U IN UR LIFE , ALL SO CAN GET THAT DRUG & Temporarily FEEL BETTER A FEW MORE MINUTES... OPIATES ARE ONLY USING U LITERALLY ONLY FOR THE HIGHER KILL RATE PERCENTAGE YEARLY NUMBERS, I MEAN, IT MADE U IT'S b***h.. PUBLICLY...
Now u know the difference in time phrame for different types of opiates and the length u need to wait before taking a suboxone so u don't put urself into a withdrawal ten X's then it need to be and why u need to wait for an extra 1-2 days to take it if ur malnourished.. If I can do it by myself in a hotel room while taking care of a 3 months old puppy(english mastiff) and dealing with precipitated withdrawal with only dog food n water in my room , no money n ciggs, & detoxing from 30-50 bags a day with no comfort medications, ANYBODY CAN DO IT.. IN THE END IT'S ALL WORTH IT. I WOULD DO IT AGAIN AND Again BECAUSE FINISHED PRODUCT IS SOOOOOO MUCH BETTER THEN Living LIKE A JUNKIE.

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