Anyone used heroin after/while on suboxone?

If your going to try to come on study health and leave comments use google scholar first cuz your ass is dumb.... Sub has a higher affinity than that of naloxone in fact if an opiate nieve user od'd on sub naloxone or Narcan would not be able to save them. This is do to a drugs affinity or ability to bind to receptor sites sub has one of the highest affinities of all opioids. In fact the naloxone within the sub has absolutely no effect at all on opiates administered or the sub. The buprenorphin is also what blocks you from being high affinity. Bup binds so strongly to the mu opioid receptors that nothing else can compete leaving naloxone to float around your blood stream until its excretion. Naloxone was only added to bup because reckit benkiser(sp) wanted to keep its patent as well as have an arguing point for its abuse deterrent properties. I won't go any further w patent, pharmaceutical or any knowledge for that matter because you clearly are ignorant. So in short it's cool to pretend to know what your talking about but especially in your case the less you say the smarter you appear.

It's not the nalaxone that keeps you from getting high, it's the buprenorphine itself. And what they use on someone in case of overdose is not nalaxone, just in the same family ...

You hit it right on the nose "study health" :)

I could be of help to you

I injected two 8 mg tablets about 3 hrs before trying to get high off dope and I did not feel any of the dope that I shot up. I was always told that you can still get high off subutex just like methadone and I did not know, until now, that at 16 mg's, subutex is a full opiod blocker. From personal experience, I know not to try and get high at least 24hrs after taking soboxone.  If I take a soboxone and try to get high that same day, I will get an initial something, like a little tease, and then nothing. I have shot subutex up 8 mg's in the past, then later that day used herion and felt the effects. But today I tried to used herion about 3 hrs after doing two 8 mg tabs, i didnt even feel anything at all. Not even the slightest little anything. But the answer to the question as I read it, is definitely, no. Personally, I think that if you have been building up soboxone in your system, the only time you should attempt to get high is when u start to kinda feel sick. Thats when your money will be well spend and you can enjoy the high. And today I found out that, at 16 mg's of subutex is a full opiod blocker.

well done on your 2 days without an opiate, the best way to help yourself is listening to people who have more experience of staying clean, they can help you more than you can yourself, i wouldn't ask someone how to build a boat if they never built a boat, i wouldn't think i know how to stay clean if ive never been clean as all i know is how to use, meetings NA, AA you can find 24hr experience on how to stay clean for free, not just at the meeting but you can build friends that are clean, people that are there for you... there is a massive world wide fellowship who want to help you stay clean but i get the i know how to stay clean without ever doing it, the worst is when i start giving advice to people who never been clean on how to stay clean, they might even listen to my delusion and die from it, just like i might NA is free and it works all i know about subutex is it makes coming of heroin easy, definitely cant get high on it i was on 32mg a day max dose in the uk, even days after the gear didn't work like it should, im glad im off all that c**p and now living a great life, im 9yrs clean and im glad i listened to Narcotic Anonymous as they new better than me about staying clean

Its called "naloxone" not the same as "narcan" google search it

at 2am this morn i took my 1st 8 dissolved it under my tounge felt good then got desperitly sick injected a bag got violently sick vomited and them felt good I feel I made a mistake but dont know if i will get even sicker when i take my next appt dose or should wait i need help and dont know what to do i hate being sick i know no pain no gain any answers out there

youre ignorant, but you cant help it

hey 19 year old kid. we all know that subs have a stronger bind. and you don't know more you know it all jack ass. You think you do, but guess what, you were actually wrong in some of what you said. While taking subs, over time, they build your narcotic receptors....so, after stopping subs, you will in fact, get higher from opiates..That is a fact, research it. People are prowned to overdose because young know it alls like yourself go around telling thousands of people reading this forum, otherwise..you yourself could be the reason someone is overdosing as we speak. No, I shouldn't joke around like that..but really, subs build your narcotic receptors..Which may or may not be an awesome trait. btw, I'm your same age, and you should know that if you were smart, you would know that you know nothing. To think you know everything about a topic will only stop you from learning any more.

suboxone contains naloxone not narcan. And naloxone is a very dangerous substance for people who have methadone or heroin in their system. Especially if they have methadone in their system. I once waited 5 days after taking methadone and did 4mg of suboxone (half of a sublingal film)spelling? Worst mistake I ever made. It almost killed me. I have never been sicker in my life. I have had a liver biopsy and the pain from the naloxone was 5 times worse than that, plus it lasted for 12 hours of pukeing, convulsions, and runny bowel movements, the kind that come out when your nowhere near a toilet. Now if you go to a suboxone doctor they give you subutex first, which is basically the suboxone(bupranorphine) without the naloxone.

thanks for actually answering the question...

whoops hit the thumbs down cause I though you were the id**t on a suboxone / h forum spewing recovery. I actually like your comment and agree that tropipalms should go f himself...that was not the question...how frustrating.

It lowers your tolerance that's why it will feel like the house is stronger

just wanted to let you know even though it's a mute point, subutex is pure narcotic say like morphine for instance & unlike suboxone which has 8 mg buphenorphine not spelled correctly i think but also has narcan which is usually 8/2 . the narcan will or can counter act the heroin and not let u get high or it may even make you sick , but if all your using is subutex and don't take suboxone, you will get the full affect of your heroin use, i've been on heroin for over 20 years and have been on suboxone last 4 yrs which is way to long, it is a crutch to me now just like the heroin was, in fact i sit here tonight out of suboxone for the first time i cant find any and i feel terrible but had 1, 8/2 mg this am, i have a ball of tar sitting here but i am waiting not because i think i''ll get sick well that's part but not much of it, the biggest reasons i haven't already shot up is i hate it i absolutley hate heroin now, but hate withdraw almost as much so i will go to bed and wait till tomorrow because i want the heroin if i use it to have the most impact on keeping me ( well ) while i try to find some suboxone in this small country town. don't confuse subutex with suboxone ,,, the main chemical Buphenorphine is the same but thats it, doctors actually prescribe subutex to older people and some people with certain opiate allergies and pregnant women and women who are nursing, believe it or not they know the narcan will have more of an impact on the infant then the pure form of the drug.