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Actually....you are miseducated on this as well as many doctors who prescribe suboxone and or subutex. It is NOT just the naloxone in suboxone that blocks opiates it is the buprenorphine itself (which is what subutex is subutex has zero naloxone just buprenorphine). I am so tired of hearing this piece of WRONG info going around. Look up the difference between an agonist, partial agonist, and antagonist. I've been on both suboxone and subutex at different times...subutex (straight buprenorphine with zero naloxone) does NOT get you high and it DOES block any opiate u can NOT use heroin or ANY opiate while on subutex and feel it, it will do nothing. This is why I avoid reading comments about subs anymore too many people have zero clue what they are talking about plus half the doctors who write it know minimal info. Here is my favorite example...when subs first came out the first doc who prescribed them told me in these exact words "there is no withdrawl when u come off subs" which is an absolute falsehood and dangerous to tell patients. That on top of the moronic comments of how people don't educate themselves on what buprenorphine actually is, does, and is metabolized by your body into, and the small difference between subutex and suboxone....Stop fear mongering, I swear feels like I am in the movie Idiocracy when I read comments like that.....drives me nuts and you're hurting not helping people by talking like you are correct and know what you are saying when you are so incredibly incorrect its sickening.

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f*****g lie I am going through helll I used heroin 23 hrs after sun went straight into Wds

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Hahahaha this was a great read! Thanks for making my day. First of all i want to say that one pathetic, among many, is you man.
Addiction is not a disease, but beacuse Bill and comapany managed to do some great PR. m****s like you, and sadly people who are problematic users believe this nonsense.
The science behind the disease model is bunk, whats worse is the best pyramid scheme behind it: the rehab industri.

Look into the freedom model and then come back ( read the book). People do drugs because they like, thats it, is no disease at play here. Only propaganda, business and a lot of self created problems.

I, among many used to be a heavy user, but im not any longer. And whats screwed me uo most was not the drugs but the indoctrination of 12 step groups.
It took many years to re learn who i was and to gain back my humanity.

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