That. Was so stereotype I almost feel a bit offended.
I have Asperger's and many of my friends are autistic.
We lie all of the time to our parents, to keep them out of our lifes.
It's quite a common known paradox.
It's called the liar's paradox (If it fits...)
It was coined by Epimenides.
Source; I'm a history student
I have read articles and books that report that autistic children don't lie, that there is an element of very concrete thinking and that many children on the Autism Spectrum tend to take rules very literally. I have however worked with Autism for almost 20 years and they are all very different. I have met many Autistic children who certainly do lie. it is frequently self preserving lies, "did you do ......?" "no." after doing something impulsively. Cross your fingers. Perhaps he won't lie. Don't totally count on that. Many children with Autism do so many of the same things that typically developing kids do, lying included.
I am the Step-Father of an Autistic 18 year old. I have known him for six years. I am not sure of where he stands on the Autistic Spectrum, but I do know he will never live an independent life. He lies constantly, mostly to keep from getting in trouble, or if he believes he will be in trouble. He lies usually about innocent stuff, nothing big, but it is constant. He has no sense of time, or value. If you press him about a lie, he will usually admit to it, though on some serious issues, he has held to his lie for several weeks at a time. He is a wonderful kid, and my life has been enriched, but, yes, they do lie just like anyone else.
Hey
I Have Autism Myself And I Can Lie. Just Because Soemone Has Austism Doesnt Mean They Cant Lie. I Have A Friend That Is Autisic To But She Can Lie. DONE ASUME THINGS JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE AUTISM DOESNT MEAN WE CANT LIE OR DO THINGS!!!
I'm sure autistic kids lie, perhaps not initially eventually they do.
I'm autistic and been lying since i was 5. I have a tendency to do bad things and i'd get in trouble alot due to my honestly. I hated it so i forced myself to lie. It started as little lies then it got into bigger lies. Bigger lies required me to go further than just make stuff up. I had to act my part too. These days it's become a serious problem... there's even a name for it: "pathological liar". ironically it's when i tell the truth is when people think i'm lying because i get shifty eyed and my body language suggests i'm unformatable and hiding something. I believe it's because i'm faking remorse. that's what people do when they confess, right? they act sorry? I don't have it, it threw it away a long time ago because it kept bothering me.
I'm shameless and i'll use lying to get what i want. I cheat, manipulate, deceive, con, and use people.
I am deluded by my lies and I often utilize my lies on myself, to ensure there are no loopholes and i can pull off perfect crimes.
I don't think this is typical of an autistic person, in fact most of the time i'm closer to psycho or socio than autistic & aspergers.
^^ and there you go, a truth from the autistic side of me. just because i lie and generally cannot be trusted more than you can throw me, it does not mean i won't say true things. this is called misinformation and it is intended to draw people to believe i'm honest and deceive them of whatever con i'm pulling.
I think I'm a bad person... but i'm not feeling bad for these things. what's wrong with me? oh yeah, i disposed of anything that can screw up my lies.
Or perhaps the people who know autism best are in fact the people who have autism rather than their parents or siblings as they are actually aware of their experiences...
This is ridiculous. Autism is not black and white, or it wouldn't be called a "spectrum" disorder! I'll eat my shoe soles if my husband isn't on the spectrum. He lies better than a 14 year old boy who just got caught stealing. Excuses, excuses, and really good at it. But the excuses are laughably immature. It's almost embarrassing. All these websites about autistic kids, and hardly anything about the autistic parents and grandparents who passed it on to them. Failed marriages, hopeless relationships with other people, no intimacy, no real emotional satisfaction or bonding gained by being with them. It's a disorder that is rampant among us adults without being addressed. Millions of women are married to men on the spectrum and don't even know it. They keep going to marriage therapist after marriage therapist. None of it works. The therapists are untrained in diagnosing it, or treating it, if there is anything to treat (which I have my sincere doubts about). Why don't they address this problem? Why is it always about kids, as if Autism just started in 2000. And why oh why doesn't someone forewarn adults about marrying someone like this? They can be so high functioning that no one would really suspect autism............they might just think they're "quirky" or "geeky" or quaintly "odd" like I did. Then, marry them and Watch Out! A life of fighting, misery, overwhelming responsibility and a spouse who reminds you of a 4 year old most of the time. Acting like a child and expecting to be treated like a respectable admirable adult just does not compute in anyone other than the mind of an autistic anywhere on the spectrum. Why doesn't someone suggest that the autistics get diagnosed.........and then find someone else with it, who will understand them. Being with an autistic when you are not feels like apples and oranges to me. Nothing will ever change that or make it feel right because it just isnt.
As a mother of 2 ASD children i would have to say that they can and do lie! My son is 11 and my daughter is 7 and although they have much more going on other than ASD both of them are compulsive liars. My son has a very long list...ASD,OCD,ODD,ADHD and ADD. and my daughter is currently being diagnosed for the same if not similar.
Both of them will hurt thier other siblings (i have 7 children in total) and will say they did not. Weither its to "get out" of being in trouble or not im not entirely sure because they both know the consequences of telling a lie! And that thier punishments are doubled. Instead of 2 mins timeout they get 4, instead of 1 chore to clean up the mess they make, they get 2... that sort of thing.
I am still yet to find a solution to lies. They both understand what a lie is, they can even tell me the consequences and tell me that a lie is not what happened and truth is what really happened. Occasionally i ask them is that what you think happened or what you know to have happened and they always come clean after a few questions because they can not seem to maintain a lie. I have seen many conversations regarding if autistic kids lie, there are some that can not and there are some that compulsively lie. Thier mental and social developments determine how far they understand truth and lie and also weither they are capable of doing the deed.
Wow ok I get you are upset, but you should realize other adults on the spectrum are going to read what you said and be upset by it. We have feelings. I am 36 and only diagnosed last year.... I had NO idea I was on the spectrum until my daughter was diagnosed at 4 years old in 2010. I got married to her father when I was pregnant with her in 2006 and we already had a daughter who was 2. My husband had no idea I was on the spectrum but he knew full well what I'm like and he made the choice to marry me and have kids with me. You obviously knew what your husband was like but married him anyway. So don't try to blame it all on him! And don't take it out on all autistic adults! And no one is perfect!
Also way to go to make anyone on the spectrum feel completely worthless/useless. You are basically saying no one should marry my daughter because she will make their life hell. How do you know that? And you are making us out to be horrible people.
You know what.... Do your husband a favour and leave him. He's better off without you. He deserves someone who understands. It's a neurological disorder. It's not like he has control over it.
Hi, I also have a son who is 14, is high functioning autistic and also lies at every opportunity. And yes is is Very frustrating. . . would love to talk or email to compare notes sometime. . . . been out here on my own without other person with a teen with autism to talk to . . .
I stand up for my son always. . . and hope to learn from others how I can help him to better understand the world . . . and yes, protect him and try to figure out how to help me before he gets into trouble . . .
I have a son age 30 and I hear what you are saying,