Experiences With Suboxone Withdrawals

This has to be the first "blogging" page I have read in quite some time but I do want to thank everyone for the input. I the same as many of you have been an addict to the oxys for ehhh 5 yrs give or take a yr...my now ex husband was perscribed due to back surgery and instantly I was hooked. Two trips to rehab later and i landed myself an amazing DR. who put me on the subs...20mgs a day and 6 months later I was still clean...until my appendix burst and the morphine was flowin thru my veins. No faster did I walk out of that er I was makin the phone calls. So here I am today using the subs as someone else said when there is no other option...

The main reason I am posting this today is because I have decided to dedicate myself to finally kicking this awful habit...but im concerned because of the lenght of time I have been taking the suboxone. The addict that I am when "sick" normally I would take 2 even 3 subs at a time to kick my body out of the withdrawls, and like many of you said I would like to start out on as low of a dose as possible to prevent future issues. So I am very concerned with the amount I will have to take daily just to be human lol. I have stepped up to H (nasaly also afraid of needles thank GOD!!) since my 6mts clean and have yet to get far enough in withdrawl to know how rough im really going to have it. So any support all of you could give me even if it takes my mind elsewhere for a moment would be awesome!!! I know meetings are the way to go here but my mother is in NA and I feel extremely uncomfturable interacting with people she talks with on a daily basis, and clean friends I have not one... So hey keep blogging and keep me reading!!!

this is my first post..i am 20 years old

The doctors that handle seboxone are all so shady and they do NOT tell you everything...mine sure didnt....For one before I went to the doctor I had done a litle research of my own and to my understanding seboxone contains and opiate as well as a blocker...even though it doesnt make any sense....my doc only told me it contained a blocker...which is why i wonder why i feel like i do right now....

In January 07 I was a complete id**t and started taking a few 7.5/750mg vicodins here and there...I started to enjoy that feeling they give you way too much...It got to the point where I wouldnt have as much fun doing activities I normally would of because I would think of how much better fun things would be if I was on vicodin..SO thats exactly what happened..Everything involved vicodin..work..after work...home....That talkative just happy to be in the moment feeling is what is a major killer for me because I love it...Through 07 there was a couple times I tried to quit on my own...or a couple times I would run out of money and couldnt buy any...So I got a taste of withdrawls and they where pretty bad but not that bad......But in early 08 I started to make more money so I took more vicodin...I got to the point where I needed to take 10 at a time to even feel satisfied...and I would be taking about 20-25 a day......I finally got sick of it...and tried getting suboxone on the street and i did...I felt amazing like I was a little kid again when I took that stuff everything was better...but the thing is I had to pay $10 per 8mg pill and the guy was a total jerk and I could hardly consitantly get them...So for about 2 months I was going from seboxone back to vicodin and back nforth....I couldnt handle it anymore after going through the worst withdrawl feelings in my entire life so I said screew this im going to a doc...........I have no insurance so it costs me a RIDICULOUS amount of money to get a script of suboxone...Lets just say it rounds off at about $300 countiung the script and appointment........I have had to go back to the doc 3 times so far since may 27th....Each time I have to spend that type of money...Last week I knew I was going to run out of seboxone soon and I did NOT want to have to go pay more because its killing my money....I got down to about 3mg a day....and the last time I took any was just abt 48hrs ago.....AND I FEEL exactly like im withdrawling off of vicodin....Its 250am here I cannot sleep I feel that exact restlessness tremor I felt from the vics....I feel horribly depressed and sad...I can literally cry at any moment because I feel so awful...I paid over $1000 for this? Man If I knew I was going to withdrawl SO HARD off of sebozone I wouldnt of bothered getting it...WTF is the point....This is a living hell I feel like I was tricked into thinking I was making progress.....

Howdy,
I figured as everyone else I would share my experience so perhaps maybe someone in the same situation I was in can have a little more info to make their choices with. I snapped a tendon in my ankle my sophmore year of college. A "friend" came over one night w/ and oxy 20 and told me it would be awesome for the pain. Well, he was right about that, and 4 years later, tens of thousands of dollars, 1 totalled car.. and 6 near deaths... let me tell you... he was no friend.

A good friend of mine who ended up getting into oxy at the same time and ended up doing it with me for years. I even moved to South Korea at one point to get away from it, however a year and 3 months later, i was an addict again and nearly killing myself nodding out driving.

Well enough was enough so my buddy got on suboxone and told the doc he was doing double the oxy he was so that I could take the therapy as well for free. Now... I am telling you guys this for info purposes only.. certainly not advocating illicit drug use, however I think my friend very well could have saved my life.

I took 4mg's a day for about 2 months. I quit cold turkey about 2 weeks ago. My withdrawal was similiar to alot of these stories, but a few things that have not been mentioned occured. Day 1 I literally felt like I was going to die. I was pretty sure there was a good chance. I know this is dramatic, but my brain was physically awful.. I could FEEL the lack of dopamine... it just felt... wrong.... I am quite literate and still cannot explain to you the pain, fog, and horror of that day. As has been suggested, find something to take your mind off it. Self pity is not helpful.

Well, day 2 was soooo much better but it still sucked. However, compared to day 1 it was so much better I didn't really care.

It has been 2 weeks now and I am still going through withdrawal. I still am exhausted all day, I still have back pain and stomach issues, and I still am having semi foggy days. I will admit I did about 20 mgs of Vicodin one night, and it seemed to almost reset my withdrawal... I wouldn't suggest it lol.

TAPER TAPER TAPER. Cold turkey is no joke, if you have the supply there is absolutely no reason to go through the withdrawal if you don't have to. In retrospect I would not do it this way again, however I am glad I am off it and have my life back... but the price was steep.

Be good guys... I know it can look bleak in the worst throws of this c**p.. dope in general, but don't let it make you feel like a bad person. You may have made mistakes , you may have become a monster, but it wasn't YOU , it was the dope... YOU ARE BETTER THAN THAT AND STRONGER THAN YOU THINK!

kick some ass for me out there =)

well a bit of background on me-
in 32 very close to 33 single male with no children
started using like most everyone else. a few percs or vicodin's here or there. then on to percs and vics everyday all day long. till one day i gave my friend money to go get me some piils, he comes back with these little tiny oc 40's. i'm like wtf dude you ripped me off. but i was in love at first sight.

i spent about 2 or 3 years on oxycontin's, then they became popular and the prices shot up to a dollar a mg. i just couldn't afford that, i never robbed, cheated or stole to get my dope. not that it makes me a good person or anything, but i thought i should mention that.

once oxy became too expensive i graduated to heroin. eventually i was doing a gram or more of H every day up my nose. at that rate of doping there just were not enough hours in a day to work enough to support my habit. i knew i needed help.

I'm a veteran so i went to the VA and got a prescription for methadone. i started at 30mg a day of methadone and was perfectly fine no w/d no cravings. all the people i read about doing 90mg and higher of methadone, i don't understand why they need that much. unless they also want to get high. i got my first methadone script 7 years ago this thanksgiving.

for the last year and a half, I've been lowering the amount of 'done i take. i made it all the way down to 5mg a day on my own. in this time i was also still getting a script of 90 10mg tabs of methadone a month. so the 'done i wasn't taking i put into a big container to save them.

today is Thursday 9/11 on tuesday 9/9 i went in to see my doctor and told her what i had been doing the last year and a half, and gave her all my unused 'done. i told her i was ready to quit and gotten down to 5mg a day. and that a few of my friends had taken suboxone and it had worked for them, i wanted to try it.

when i went in to see the dr. i had not taken any 'done for about 28 hours. i was starting to feel w/d i think. she wrote me a prescription for two 2mg tabs of sub. but warned me not to take them unless i was sure i was in w/d. she also said i could come back the next day on wed she would give me 2 more sub's. but i didn't need to come back on wed.

so, i was so afraid of going in to precipitated withdraw, that i waited till Thursday morning to take the subs, which was about 55 hours since my last dose of 'done. i was definitely feeling the physical part of w/d when i decided to take it. but mentally i was so stoked about not having the methadone fog in my head. today was a beautiful day, cool, blue sky's and i felt great.

i was supposed to take one 2mg tab of sub, then another 2mg an hour later. i didn't need to take the second one. i still have it in my bottle, and i still feel fine. I'm going to take it into the office in the morning with me to show her i didn't need to take it.

the dr. told me she plans to do my detox in 15-30 days since i had gotten my 'done use so low on my own. and i was stabilized at 5mg for about 2 months. i could take 5mg and be perfectly fine on it.

i have read a few post in this thread stating that addiction is not "all in your head" i know the pain and sleepless nights i had just going from 20mg to 15mg. and as soon as she wrote my script for subs i felt better. hell i went 55 hours without any methadone. and i felt ok, so for me i think 70% of it is "just in my head"

i feel very positive about taking sub, and I'm going to put my best effort into getting clean from opiates. its been a long 12 years of addiction and I'm ready for it to end. wish me luck!

I couldn't agree more with the guy above. I too was a junkie on 200mgs of oxy a day for about a year or so - and went through the terrible withdrawal symptoms. But - if you are truly determined to get through this and get over it - you need to be strong. It will not be easy - the easy route would just be to go back and score. But once you get through the physical withdrawals (however you may do it - I did a 4 day Sub taper which worked awesome) you have got to change your life. We are used to being junkies and spending all of our time looking for drugs, buying drugs, doing drugs, counting pills, planning on how to quit, etc. So once you stop you need to find things to do to fill in that empty space. But exercise works wonders...Also I totally enjoy listening to music and/or driving in my car. For some reason it felt so good - I would get chills to every other song - and it was wonderful relief for the mental and physical issues that I was going through. Just wanted to add in my two cents.

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I also have read every single article on here. So thank you all. Three years ago i too started taking vicodins, for my stress, then when those were gone it was onto lortab,oxy, pretty much any pill i could find. Then i knew it was time for a change, i found a doctor in my neighborhood, and got started out at 8mgs a day. Then made it down to 4mg. Boy for me that was just hard. But soon not soon enough, (i was going to my dr once a month for almost 16months.) I decided that once i got down too 2mgs a day i would soon go down to 1mg a day, half a pill of suboxone. Which was hard because i knew the end was coming fast and not too sure how i would do. But as soon as i hit the half pill marker i decided to cut this c**p out. Plus i was on suboxone for way too long. So for 2 days i did 1mg of suboxone, then i ended it. Today is day 4 of no suboxones, and i must say that its not as bad as i thought it was gonna be. I did have the chills and sweats, and some legs pains, but it was nothing compared to what i went there when i was on pain pills, opiates. I can tell i am having mood swings, and the sleeping welll there really hasnt been a good night sleep in the 4 days. But today i went to see my dr for the last time and he gave me something to help me sleep better at night. He has been a blessing to me, i just wish i was stronger in the beginning to be able to get myself off suboxone. I am truely hoping that tomorrow day 5 and a good nights sleep tonight will help me out even more, i am taking vitiams and drinking alot of H20, which i always have.Thats just me. I just want my normal self back, i miss her!!! If anyone does decide to go on suboxone please dont stay on it too long. Its nice to have for the w/ds but you can do it, it will be hard but once you got it in your head that you really want this to work and finally be off of suboxone for good, then go for it. Thats how it was for me, one day last week it just hit me, i just sat there looking at the bottle and said, thats it this weekend my husband will be home and i can go threw all the withdrawal c**p that i can, and it was bad on the first and second day but day three and four havent been so bad, starting to get some energy, but do have a headache alittle, and the running to the bathroom. I cant wait for that to stop. :D Anyways, i too am not one of those people who need to go to the meetings, i have my support group here. A friend and my dear husband who has stuck it out with me since the day we met. Only reason i went on pain pills in the first place was for stress and depression. And realized that my pain inside went away, and i felt great, but now i have a new life, a huband and two beautiful kids that i want to watch their every movement. I am truely hoping that by next week which should be about day 10 or 11 of not being on anything especially suboxone that i will start to feel the old me again, the girl who was always happy and being silly, never yelled, just me. And i can see her coming back..just as soon as the mood swings are gone. Because trust me and i am sure their are others out there too, its hard to do this when you have two kids. But with my hubby by my side it hasnt been too hard. Just uncomfortable. But its getting better, and i can see the next stage in my life coming and will be normal again! I cant say suboxone is bad, just dont stay on it too long. All you need is the WILL to WANT to do it and get off them. Thats my opinion. And i do have the WILL, because i would have thought that by now my withdrawal would have been nastier than i imagined last week. Especially since i have been on sub for over 15 months. I dont know what i was thinking, i think i was just so use to taking something as soon as i woke up that i didnt no what i would do after i stopped taking the sub. But i started to take my vitiams to clean out my liver and try to get the opiates out faster, and try some engery pills but they dont seem to help so much now. But soon i will have all the energy i will need. So thanks. We can all do this if we just believe in ourselfs.

I have been reading through this thread. It has been a god sent. I am amped up about starting my suboxone treatment. I have been on opiates for 3 years. I just recently (about a year ago) started taking roxi's . I started on one 30mg pill and now teeter between 3 and 5 a day. So 90mg - 150 mg of oxycodone a day.

This thread has helped me realize.

A. Suboxone is not a miracle drug I will have some withdrawls

B. Don't take it for more than a week.

C. Be strong

Thank you to everyone who has taken part in this thread.

I've been on suboxone on and off for nearly six years. For the sake of full discloser, the first 3 or so years I used it on and off as a stop gap, and more as a means to get money/trade for oxycontins. Then for nine months I went solid, no dope, nothing, and weened off the subs and stopped showing up for my appointments. I went about 2 weeks, relapsed, and found my way back to a different suboxone doctor in December of 2006. Since then I have been totally clean, as in: no drinking, no smoking, no pills- nothing. I weaned myself down to a .05 dosage of suboxone (a quarter of a two milligram pill daily) for about 2 weeks and just ran out. I had a surplus of pills saved up from the times I weened myself down, so I just skipped my doctors appointment so I knew that if I had a weak moment I couldn't call them and get back in. It just had to be over. I took my last dose on Tuesday and today is Sunday, and I have to tell you, it isn't that bad. Sure, you get hot and cold, and all that stuff, but it isn't that bad. I had some Skelaxon that I took the first few days, which I don't think even did anything, but there's some solace in taking a pill everyday. Other than that, I take some Nitequil each night and sleep like a baby.

For me, the trick is just getting the hell out of the house. Don't lay in bed all day thinking about how awful it is, that isn't going to do any good. When you stare at a clock it isn't going to move faster, it's going to move slower. It will pass.

I think we've all been duped into believing that this is a miracle drug. It isn't. But it does help. It helps you make your life manageable again.

How many of you actually think that you'd be here, reading this, clean and sober (if you can call using suboxone clean and sober) if you didn't have this drug? I sure as sh*t wouldn't, I was weak. We all were. Thankfully I couldn't even relapse if I wanted too because I don't know any drug dealers anymore, and that's the point. You've built a life, you have things worth losing now, don't be weak and fall back into the traps you've created for yourself. You can do this. Don't think about the weeks ahead, just think about today, and how you're going to get through today.

I am on Day 7 of Suboxone, 12 mgs. a day. For me it has been nothing short of a miracle after 18 years of opiate dependency. I went through mild withdrawal from the opiates for a day or 2 even after I started the Suboxone, but now I feel great- no cravings, only some chills and muscle pain which I can easily live with. And I can think straight again. I did a huge amount of research and interviewed 3 different docs/clinics before deciding to proceed with Suboxone rather than cold turkey (I've done the cold turkey and the "detox under anesthesia"-which almost killed me), and relapsed each time. This time I am not thinking about drugs.

So many people have posted their horrible experiences with suboxone withdrawal. After reading these posts for the last 2 hours I went back and reread many of them and noticed a definite trend in those who seemed to suffer the most withdrawal from suboxone. Common denominators:

-They seemed to decide for thermselves when to taper off. And it seemed that most of these folks were in a rush to get off sub for various reasons (money being the most frequently mentioned)
-They tapered erratically, with no real plan for a VERY LONG, GRADUAL taper.
-They were not managed by a physician during tapering, who could have controlled the side effects with clonidine and other supportive drugs.
-Some took opiates just to deal with sub withdrawal. I loved that one. Seems just a little counterproductive.
- Most of these folks seemed to make up their own withdrawal plan on their own, with no real factual basis for what they did.

Yes, suboxone is related to opiates, It binds opiate receptors more strongly than opiates do. It has a MUCH LONGER half-life than ALL opiates, so it sticks around much longer. Day 3-5 of sub withdrawal is basically day 1-2 of other opiate withdrawal. Day 10 is like Day 4. You're expecting to feel better by day 5, but you forgot that the drug HAS JUST SAID GOODBYE a day ago, not 5 days ago. It took years to change our brains by taking drugs. Why would we expect to reverse that within weeks? The brain will eventually heal (unless it is just too far gone, which is rare amongst "functioning" addicts), but it will take its' sweet time about it.

Because suboxone is an opiate derivative it does not let the extra opiate receptors that addicts develop shrivel up and die. Those extra receptors are still there, and they are screaming. YOU MUST taper VERY gradually, over months, and under supervision of a qualified addiction specialist so that your brain has the time to readjust to a lower dosage than it's expecting, so those extra receptors can die off, and so you can get the medical support you need for side effects. There are plenty of drugs to manage the insomnia and rapid heartbeats which are not addictive. I am also finding that NA/AA and group therapy really help, even though I used to hate those things.

I have not yet gotten to the point where my doc wants me to taper off, but we have already discussed it, and he has told me it will take many months going very slowly. But even if I needed to live on a small dose of sub the rest of my life it would be better than what I had before (no money, no family, no friends, no business, no one trusting me). But I'm sure I'll eventually be free and clear of all drugs. You just have to do it the right way. After a year on suboxone, why the rush to get off it in a few weeks??

Not all doctors are money-grubbing lowlifes. I found a terrific doc. Many addiction docs are former addicts themselves, and are really dedicated to helping. You don't have the money or insurance for the doc and the meds? Don't blame the docs. They really don't want to keep you hooked on anything forever. They have boards and lawyers to answer to, as well as their reputations to think about (of course there are some bad ones. That's why you interview a few before you pick one). Think of all the schemes you used to get the $$$ when you needeed a fix, and figure out a way to get the $$$ for treatment. And start LISTENING to the professionals. Even the worst of them know more than you do about your disease and how to treat it.

The federal govt. published treatment protocols for Suboxone use years ago, after a VERY long and strict research period. It's required reading for anyone considering Suboxone treatment. Find it at:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/bv.fcgi?rid=hstat5.chapter.72248

I pray for myself and every one of you out there.

%-) I am a 38 year old female who has been on 30-40 pills of norco a day for the last 3 years. I decided to start taking suboxone yesterday, which the doctor started me at 8mg and I am supposed to take 12 mg today, and 16 mg thereafter. Anyway, I wanted to know if I took it for 1 week and then stopped would I go through withdrawal already from suboxone? If it is that addictive that fast I don't want that. Also, I keep reading about taking suboxone is like "trading one addiction for another", if this is true it scares the sh*t out of me. I have lived a double life so to speak for 3 years of lying, and doctor shopping ( I can't believe that I am not in jail), I don't want to have to stay on this suboxone for a long time. I must say I was very surprised when I went in yesterday after being off the pills for 12 hours and I took 8mg of soboxone and it sincerely help the withdrawal symptoms just stop. I did feel like I took speed (which I hate) and I got a headache but I felt a hell of a lot better than when I walked in. I have read alot of threads and I don't understand how people take suboxone to get off of pills and then stop taking suboxone shortly and then take pain pills, that is stupid because they won't feel anything and isn't it just a viscious circle to live in? I am terrified, and I need some no BS straight answers from someone out there who knows FIRST HAND what I need to know. Thanks so much for your help, it is GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!

ive read most of the posts here. its comforting to see other people are in my situation and im not alone.

suboxone can be the worst mistake you ever make. or maybe it can be the answer for you. i think it all depends on your dosage, how long you use them, and how serious you are about getting clean.

i started using suboxone about one year ago. throughout my life ive used heroin, sometimes frequently enough to get a habit, sometimes not. before the suboxone i was not using heroin at all, and hadnt used for probably a year. what caused me to start the suboxone is pretty stupid. i got a bottle of painkillers from the dentist after some root canals. they were only 7.5s, not very strong. but to an ex opiate addict, they felt great. it had been so long since i had steady opiate in me, that little bit made me feel like superman. i used them not at all for the pain in my mouth, but to give me energy and euphoric feeling before work. as soon as they ran out, i went into withdrawl. i was amazed. i couldnt believe i was sick from using 20 7.5 oxycodones. but that is how my body is now. when it feels opiates, it goes crazy. so when the painkillers ran out, i had a pretty substantial physical and mental withdrawl going on. i was very, very weak. i was very depressed and sad. like a fool, i went to a clinic and got suboxone. i started one 8mg a day, breaking it in half and talking half in the morning, half at night. after some months, i moved down to 4 mg a day, then some months later 2 mgs a day. to be honest, going from 8 to 4 to 2mgs/day wasnt hard at all for me. so i was very optimistic about being able to quit totally. guess what. NOT HAPPENING. ive been taking 2mg (sometimes even less) of suboxone a day for about 4 months now, and cant f*cking get off them. ONLY 2MGs!!!! this is the smallest dose made, where do i go from here? its awful. i have to have half a 2mg pill right when i wake up. every morning when i wake up, im feeling WD symptoms. anxiety, depression, weakness, tingling extremities, everything. its unreal. ive tried taking litte tiny pieces, tapering down like that, and its torture. like someone said previously, even if you break it down into little tiny crumbs and taper with that, its just like an extended withdrawl rather than a healthy, successful detox.

i desperately want to be clean. i havent had desire to use opiates in two years now. that part of my life is over, ive moved past it. if you didnt know me, youd think i was an athlete or personal trainer in amazing shape. im 5'11 185lbs of muscle. i workout every day. i do martial arts, running, etc. but i cant get off this evil drug.

i think the thing that got me so hooked is how long i stayed on the suboxone, and the fact i didnt take it seriously enough. i believe that if you start at a modest dose of 8mg MAXIMUM or preferably less, like 6mg a day, and taper quickly down to 2, then break that in half to 1 mg a day, you can use suboxone successfully. but you have to do this over a short period of time. if you use the suboxone to catch any buzz, or use it to substitute one drug for another, youre really screwing yourself. if i wouldve just used it for lets say, 3 months maximum, i think id be fine today.

i used methadone successfully twice in my life. people who say methadone is worse are misinformed. methadone was 10xs easier to get off for me than suboxone is. im even considering using a very low dose methadone taper to get off the suboxone, as backwards as that sounds.

i should share this experience also. suboxone blocks most of the effect of other opioids. so if youre on suboxone, and take say a 40mg oxy, you shouldnt really feel much. i accidentally did this once. i was given a 40mg oxy. instead of throwing it out like i should have, i accepted it and put it in my clonipin bottle. during the night, not thinking of course, i took what i thought was a clonipin out of the bottle and swallowed it. WRONG. it was the oxy i took. when i realized it about an hour later, i started to panic. i was afraid i might get sick or something. what actually happened was strange. while i didnt feel a high from the oxy at all, i also didnt feel the need to take my suboxone at the normal time. i think i was able to go almost 6-8 hours longer than usual without feeling i needed the suboxone. it almost felt like i could kick suboxone using a broad spectrum opiate.

i might try this. i dont know what else to do, except go to inpatient rehab or outpatient methadone clinic. i might actually go without the suboxone until i get sick, then take a small amount of a painkiller and see how long that gets me through. if it gets me through a long time, i might try to taper with that instead, because tapering with the suboxones JUST ISNT WORKING. like i said, ive had heroin habits before and used methadone successfully to get clean. all i had to do was a slow taper, down to even 1mg of methadone which might as well be nothing, some people start at 120mg. i was able to get clean. but not with suboxone. this stuff is killing me.

i know i just wrote a novel. but i had to get it out. this stuff is running my life right now, and im by no means abusing it, or over doing it. yet still i cant go without it, and when i do the WDs are AWFUL. i feel terribly alone, depressed and sad. i feel almost hopeless. im very scared. ive never wanted to be clean so badly and just not able to do it! i dont know who to talk to or where to go with this. im just going to try to taper again. if it doesnt work, im gonna have to go inpatient rehab because i dont want to be on this drug for another day, let alone a year.

oh one more thing, my doctor once said that some people take low dose suboxone for depression. he actually suggested that like it was a good idea, to take 2mg of suboxone a day for depression. holy sh*t, i almost passed out when i heard him suggest that. its absolutely true that probably more than half of these doctors either dont know or dont care what theyre getting their patients into.

Hi,
Some of what I type here may be regarded as dangerous, but I am only asking about the science behind it, and not suggesting anyone do this.

I was taking suboxone for a few weeks to kick a 3-5 30mg Roxi per day habit. I was down to about 4mg of suboxone per day (2mg in the am, 2mg in the afternoon). I knew I was going to run out, and I panicked so I got a hold of some 30mg roxys. I took them for one night. Now it is true that the suboxone prevents you from getting high, but still, you can flood your system. Basically I sniffed took a half of roxy, about once every 4 hours, but it only felt like I took a 5mg vicodin. (over two days, 4 total) So no big wow there. ....
Anyhow...
The next morning, I felt good. Not high good, but like normal. And I was not craving anything for several hours. If I was smart I would have gone with this feeling, but instead, I did some more of the roxy I had, but it was not out of pain or craving, just because I'm a drug addict and was afraid I might feel bad if i didnt. A couple days later I went back on suboxone and I still am on about 3mg a day.
I have been on and off suboxone before and usually there is that bit of withdrawal. DO NOT TRY THIS, I AM ONLY ASKING, NOT SAYING IT WORKS OR THAT YOU SHOULD TRY THIS: Is it possible that pain killer balances out the suboxone withdrawal? All the stuff I have read obviously says NO, but it was really weird. Or was it maybe that the suboxone was still in my system and I was feeling the lingering suboxone? Does anyone know the science behind these chemicals canceling each other out?

(I know the difference between lingering highs from the night before, I didnt wake up high on the roxy, waking up from a roxy high, for me is like being a sick zombie with no motor control. )

Nothing will ruin your life like oxycontin so please, do not think that oxycontin is some sort of cure for suboxone withdrawal. It's not. I'd rather be on suboxone and not know, than try it again and risck complete relapse.

I have come off 2 mg suboxone 7 days ago and omg am I feeling it.
Ive been taking Dyhdrocodein (sp) to ease the symptoms (30mg tablets) but it still does not take it away :-(
Ive only got 20 df's left as there not proscribed so im praying to god that I start feeling better in the next few days.

Am I ok to be taking these df's (only been taking them a week).

I WANT TO FEEL NORMAL AGAIN :-(

Deedee, suboxone withdrawls are very slow and long lasting. I know that's not what you wanted to hear, but they can be bearable.. you just have to find a way to work through them.

Taking other narcotic opiod pills will only make things worse unfortunately. Try spending some time in the bath with some relaxing music etc. You just have to remember that even though it may seem like forever, it won't be.

Search around on the forums, other users have put in some great ways to bypass the pain without resorting to other drugs.

Take it one day at a time, and don't look back. There's no easy answer for this, but there is an end to the pain.

Today can be pain, but tomorrow is another day and tomorrow is the rest of your life. Make it a good one!

okay so, i been an iv herion addict for about 7 years. got on methadone 4 years ago and got up to 125mg a day. Stopped using drugs almost a year ago and began detox from methadone. Got to 30mgs and switched to suboxone about 1 1/2 months ago. Started the sub at 16mg a day, and now i'm taking like 1mg. The methadone wd's were hard, but for the suboxone, i've felt great. No withdrawals decreasing. little chills here and there, but that's it. There are so many negative posts on here and I know for me, i came to this site looking for hope cuz i'm a scared drug addict about to be completely clean for the 1st time in 16 years..so hopefully i can spread a little hope. of course getting off any addictive meds u'll have withdrawal, but you gotta get your mind right..so much of this is mental. Opiate addicts get goosebumps or yawn, and immediately we think we're sick. How bout it's cold out, and I'm tired! YOU NEED SUPPORT! I NEVER COULD HAVE GOTTEN OFF METHADONE OR ANYTHING ELSE WITHOUT MEETINGS. A/A N/A WHATEVER! JUST FIND A MEETING PUT UP YOUR HAND AND LET ANOTHER ADDICT KNOW THAT YOUR HURTING..THE RESULTS ARE AMAZING! I'm not religous by any means, ut i do believe in God and asking Him for help saves me everytime. Be positive even when you feel like ur dying. Change your mind and your body will follow. I pray 4 any1 struggling w addiction and i hope u make it..I know you can.xoxo