will someone please answer these questions. sorry to be so impatient but after reading all these posts im scared as hell and wanting to start this process asap. thanks
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Ive been on Sub since July 09',. I detoxed from a 3yr battle from OXYs on June 1,09. Still felt like sh*t for 7 days. No one told me what to do. So, went back to Lori 10s until July11,09. Went to the hospital for detox(AGAIN)!!!! It SUX!!! Came home in 5 days and felt like sh*t.
Again, I was just left to cope. Went to a Sub DR on July20. Yeah. THey suc u for all your money. Since I had detoxed already I felt that I should have been put just enough Sub to help me through a few days. Here I am 8 months later.I want off ALL this sh*t! I am down to 1- 2 mg a day. Just depends on the stress. About a month ago I was off the Sub. for 5days. I couldn't take the WD anymore...so went back.
I could kick myself for going that far and then going back. My DR won't call me in any more Sub until I see him. Don't have the money this month. That's messed up! I have never missed an appointment. And always pass the pee tests! I wanted just enough to get through the weaning process. I only have 3 left...HELP!! What should I do???? U really seem to know what you're talking about!
Again, I was just left to cope. Went to a Sub DR on July20. Yeah. THey suc u for all your money. Since I had detoxed already I felt that I should have been put just enough Sub to help me through a few days. Here I am 8 months later.I want off ALL this sh*t! I am down to 1- 2 mg a day. Just depends on the stress. About a month ago I was off the Sub. for 5days. I couldn't take the WD anymore...so went back.
I could kick myself for going that far and then going back. My DR won't call me in any more Sub until I see him. Don't have the money this month. That's messed up! I have never missed an appointment. And always pass the pee tests! I wanted just enough to get through the weaning process. I only have 3 left...HELP!! What should I do???? U really seem to know what you're talking about!
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Hello. I have been on Suboxone since August '07. That is well over 2 1/2 years on the medication. I'm taking it for heavy use of morphine and oxycontin. I was an inpatient for about a week at a rehab clinic in which I would get suboxone from one of the nurses every day; This continued for another two weeks as an outpatient. Since then, I've seen my doctor about 3-4 times a year and I basically get to choose what I feel I should be on. I started on 16mg's a day, and now I am down to 6mg a day. This has been a long and drawn out process but I've never really had any problems with Suboxone. I think it's saved my life. The only complaint that I would have is that I take my meds when I get home from work every day from 1-3pm. By noon the next day, my eyes are watering, I'm yawning a lot and feel very lazy at worse. I can tell I'm ready for another dose, obviously. I feel as though I am ready to get myself off these. My insurance was recently cut off and it now costs me $450 combined for 34, 8mg tabs and 30, 2mg tabs. That is hard for me to pay so I am really worried on what I am going to do when I run out again. I was use to paying $40 for both meds with my old insurance. I'm trying to reduce myself day to day to make withdrawal symptoms less severe. But since I have been on them for longer than anyone I know, I think the withdrawals will hit me hard no matter what. I am a light sleeper who has always had trouble sleeping in the past. I remember plenty of times having to make a 30mg morphine pill last me 3 days, so I could use some at night just to get a couple hours of sleep. I'm looking forward to getting off the meds soon but I fear the worse for withdrawal symptoms. Regardless, this is better than being on morphine and OC's.
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Hi, i was a drug user for 12 years, i was hooked on herion for about 3 years then went to my doctor, it was the worst move of my life as during the 3 years of herion abuse i used to manage to come off it myself, 3 days of pain then i started to feel better, like i said i basically did this for 3 years untill i went to see my doctor, then all the trouble started
They put me on methadone 30 ml to start which was nothing so i got put up in stages to 50 ml i did suffer a bit untill i was stable but i did the wrong thing and kept going to the chemist for it each day, my initial therory was to take methadone for 3-4 days then stop but i cudnt, so i find myself 8 years down the line and still taking methadone, i thot f**k this i need to come off this garbage as even when i was on herion i never took it every day for this long, it was like a cuople of months out of the year but with methadone it was everyday for 8 years
So i cut down to taking 28ml of methadone as my doctor advised me below 30 would be a sutiable amount to go on suboxone, well what a carry on i had swapping one for the other i still had methadone in my system 12 days after last dose i went up to 32ml of suboxone but still had withdrawls from the methadone, but finally after 15 days i started feeling ok and stable with suboxone
I found myself 2 years on and still on suboxone by this time i had cut down to 2 mg of the stuff, now heres where doctors dont know nothing as my doctor said it was like taking a smartie, hmm what kind of smarties does she take i asked mysel, she said i cud easy just stop taking 2 hg and id be fine 2 days later well what a load of garbage, i halfed the pill so i was taking 1 mg for about a week, i felt ok with that but did have some withdrawl but nothing i cudnt handle then i thot id stop taking em alltogether, well omfg that was just silly
first day i felt weird and at night i cudnt sleep, second day i was in withdrawl, now withdrawl from these is much less painful than herion but u have to remember i was on a realy low dose of suboxone if i was on a low dose of herion then the pain prob would of been the same and only last a couple of days but with suboxone it lasted almost 3 f*****g weeks, i started taking tramdol to help me sleep they did help but i had to watch what i was doing as they are addictive too
So if ur doctor offers you suboxone Dont stay on em longer than a couple of weeks unless ur wanting 3 weeks of total hell, the doctors dont seem to know much about these pills as they just cant get it the longer u are on them the longer it will be to come off em in my case 2 years on suboxone took 3 weeks to withdrawl from, now if i was in same position again i wud rather come off small amount of herion than come off of any of the pish the doctors give you as what wud u rather have: 3-4 days of hell of 3-4 weeks of mild pain that keeps you from sleaping, eating and basically doing anything that requires u leaving the house?
I still laff when i think of my doctor saying 2 days and i will be fine, YEAH RITE
They put me on methadone 30 ml to start which was nothing so i got put up in stages to 50 ml i did suffer a bit untill i was stable but i did the wrong thing and kept going to the chemist for it each day, my initial therory was to take methadone for 3-4 days then stop but i cudnt, so i find myself 8 years down the line and still taking methadone, i thot f**k this i need to come off this garbage as even when i was on herion i never took it every day for this long, it was like a cuople of months out of the year but with methadone it was everyday for 8 years
So i cut down to taking 28ml of methadone as my doctor advised me below 30 would be a sutiable amount to go on suboxone, well what a carry on i had swapping one for the other i still had methadone in my system 12 days after last dose i went up to 32ml of suboxone but still had withdrawls from the methadone, but finally after 15 days i started feeling ok and stable with suboxone
I found myself 2 years on and still on suboxone by this time i had cut down to 2 mg of the stuff, now heres where doctors dont know nothing as my doctor said it was like taking a smartie, hmm what kind of smarties does she take i asked mysel, she said i cud easy just stop taking 2 hg and id be fine 2 days later well what a load of garbage, i halfed the pill so i was taking 1 mg for about a week, i felt ok with that but did have some withdrawl but nothing i cudnt handle then i thot id stop taking em alltogether, well omfg that was just silly
first day i felt weird and at night i cudnt sleep, second day i was in withdrawl, now withdrawl from these is much less painful than herion but u have to remember i was on a realy low dose of suboxone if i was on a low dose of herion then the pain prob would of been the same and only last a couple of days but with suboxone it lasted almost 3 f*****g weeks, i started taking tramdol to help me sleep they did help but i had to watch what i was doing as they are addictive too
So if ur doctor offers you suboxone Dont stay on em longer than a couple of weeks unless ur wanting 3 weeks of total hell, the doctors dont seem to know much about these pills as they just cant get it the longer u are on them the longer it will be to come off em in my case 2 years on suboxone took 3 weeks to withdrawl from, now if i was in same position again i wud rather come off small amount of herion than come off of any of the pish the doctors give you as what wud u rather have: 3-4 days of hell of 3-4 weeks of mild pain that keeps you from sleaping, eating and basically doing anything that requires u leaving the house?
I still laff when i think of my doctor saying 2 days and i will be fine, YEAH RITE
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Hi, this is the first time I've ever posted about any of this, so here goes...
When I first moved out of my parents' house (at 18), I experimented with a ton of different drugs (ecstacy, acid, shrooms, pot, coke.....) but eventually got myself hooked on Oxys.
I was on them for a few years... not nearly the level some people were (got up to like 6-8 30mgs per day or so), but still enough to be quite a problem
I found a doctor to start me on Subs and right of the bat I only needed a quarter of a pill (think that's 2 mgs?) to feel good for the day. I've been on them for a little over a month and I'm at the point now where I'm still taking 2 mg at a time, but only every other day. I really want to completely get off of them, but it just seems like every time on that second day, I start feeling crappy and immediately reach for the Sub.
It really sucks to have to deal with the withdrawals, and I only hope that once I can finally quit the Subs (or run out of them >.>) that it won't last that long for me. My job is working as a math tutor for my university (I'm really very smart... just made some terrible decisions with this stuff) so I'm constantly talking to people, dealing with them frustrating me and stuff. Which is really tough when I already feel like c**p. Like.... not to insult anyone or anything, but explaining to someone five times how to compute 1 + 1/2 is very, VERY frustrating when I'm dealing with the feelings of withdrawal at the same time.
I just don't know if I could deal with the withdrawals for weeks...
When I first moved out of my parents' house (at 18), I experimented with a ton of different drugs (ecstacy, acid, shrooms, pot, coke.....) but eventually got myself hooked on Oxys.
I was on them for a few years... not nearly the level some people were (got up to like 6-8 30mgs per day or so), but still enough to be quite a problem
I found a doctor to start me on Subs and right of the bat I only needed a quarter of a pill (think that's 2 mgs?) to feel good for the day. I've been on them for a little over a month and I'm at the point now where I'm still taking 2 mg at a time, but only every other day. I really want to completely get off of them, but it just seems like every time on that second day, I start feeling crappy and immediately reach for the Sub.
It really sucks to have to deal with the withdrawals, and I only hope that once I can finally quit the Subs (or run out of them >.>) that it won't last that long for me. My job is working as a math tutor for my university (I'm really very smart... just made some terrible decisions with this stuff) so I'm constantly talking to people, dealing with them frustrating me and stuff. Which is really tough when I already feel like c**p. Like.... not to insult anyone or anything, but explaining to someone five times how to compute 1 + 1/2 is very, VERY frustrating when I'm dealing with the feelings of withdrawal at the same time.
I just don't know if I could deal with the withdrawals for weeks...
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Ok, I've read all these posts for Suboxone Withdrawal and tapering. I'm in a similar situation. I was taking Hydrocodone for a year for abdominal pain due to Crohn's Disease. After the pain subsided and I became healthier, I couldn't stop taking the pain pills as they graduated me to percocet and higher doses of it. In January of 2009 I began suboxone treatment at 12mg per day. My doctor kept me on that dose for a year. I then took it upon myself to reduce my dosage to 8mg and then a month later 4 mg, and I just jumped down 4 mg at once no problem. Then I took 2mg for a month and then 1.5mg or so for another month. I didn't go back to my dr. til 3 days ago. I told him where I was and he said it was fine to jump off and stop talking it with no problems. I took my last 1mg of suboxone 4 days ago. after 1 1/2 days I took 10mg of Percocet each day for 3 days. I took the percocet just to try and cope because I had to work. Some people actually say it is good to lightly take a regualr opiate for a few days to avoid bad suboxone withdrawals. So, today is exaclty 24 hours since I took 10 mg of Percocet. I couldn't really sleep last night after midnight. Today I have sore legs and restless arms and legs. I feel cold waves, aches, a little GI issues, fatigue is brutal. I wanted to wait to start today because I'm off work this weekend and I want to be back at work on Monday. It is now Friday and I had to call in sick today. I'm trying to keep moving to feel okay. I currently have a few Xanax just to help me relax a little when I need it. I'm hoping to avoid it, but it can help. I also have stocked up with benedryl, advil, some sleeping meds, and imodium. I will keep everyone updated. The posts have helped me before, so maybe this can help someone.
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Ok...so it is now 6:30am on the next next day. I took a xanax and a sleep aid given to me by my dr. last night and I slept all night with little problem. I woke this morning at about 5:30am and I felt good, nothing like yesterday. I went for a decent walk. I ate some yogurt and drank some water. I still have GI problems, but that's minor to me. I don't feel as good now as when I woke up. I have a little cold chill and just an all around funny feeling throughout my body. My plan today was to go visit my family and do some work for my Grandmother, but I'm not sure if that will work out. We'll see. I'll post again by the end of the day, in case anyone is reading this.
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Ok in it now 3:27pm. I went to my grandma's house and worked in her yard for a couple hours, then helped my dad move a TV and furniture. I had to call it quits because I was so sore and tired. I took one and a half mgs of xanax about 2 hours ago and it has made me feel much better. My biggest complaint to this point is fatigue and restlessness and sore leg muscels. I get chills now and then.
Today at noon was 5 days with no Suboxone at all and 2 days sinceI took a low 10mg dose of Percocet. I still feel surprisingly well right now, we'll se.
Today at noon was 5 days with no Suboxone at all and 2 days sinceI took a low 10mg dose of Percocet. I still feel surprisingly well right now, we'll se.
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Ok, so here I am on day 6 without any suboxone. I feel, well, not good, however I feel good enough to get up and go walking in the morning. Keep in mind that I was taking 10mg percocet once a day for the first 3 days, so today is actually only 3 days without any opiate in my system. My worst night and day were 3 days after no sub and the next day after I took the last 10mg percocet. Since then I've felt better and better. Like I said, I feel so-so today. I have to be back at work tomorrow and I hope this doesn't mess me up at work. I was hoping to get past the rough part while I was off for a few days.
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Ok, so it is almost 24 hours from the last post. I'm not sure if anyone is reading it, but I noticed that alot of posts are useful years later, so here it is.
I awoke this morning after being semi-restless all night. I took serequel to sleep as well as xanax 1mg. I woke up feeling crappy, I tried to exercise or go for a walk, but I hadn't much energy. I took my L-Tyrosine 2000mg and my vitamin B complex, multi vitamin, and some advil. I ate a banana and some eggs and sausage. I went to work. I ate two bananas while at work as well as drank lots of water. I could only last about 5 hours on my feet. My legs are so very sore and achy. Minor headaches, but not a big deal. I felt chills and my legs hurt so bad. I was very fatigued and still am.
Today makes exactly 1 week without any Suboxone. I want so badly to be free of this. I actually called the Dr. today and asked him why I am still feeling so crappy and tired, since he told me it would only last a few days. He said it would go away and don't worry. I can't say I trust him 100%, not very indiviual or concerned. Doesn't seem to have much sympathy. I need to go to work again tomorrow and then I'll be off a day (wed) so I hopre I'm in better condition on Thursday.
I awoke this morning after being semi-restless all night. I took serequel to sleep as well as xanax 1mg. I woke up feeling crappy, I tried to exercise or go for a walk, but I hadn't much energy. I took my L-Tyrosine 2000mg and my vitamin B complex, multi vitamin, and some advil. I ate a banana and some eggs and sausage. I went to work. I ate two bananas while at work as well as drank lots of water. I could only last about 5 hours on my feet. My legs are so very sore and achy. Minor headaches, but not a big deal. I felt chills and my legs hurt so bad. I was very fatigued and still am.
Today makes exactly 1 week without any Suboxone. I want so badly to be free of this. I actually called the Dr. today and asked him why I am still feeling so crappy and tired, since he told me it would only last a few days. He said it would go away and don't worry. I can't say I trust him 100%, not very indiviual or concerned. Doesn't seem to have much sympathy. I need to go to work again tomorrow and then I'll be off a day (wed) so I hopre I'm in better condition on Thursday.
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Ok, today was day #8 without Suboxone. I have a little bit more energy, but my legs and feet are so sore and just feel terrible. I still have chills occasionally and headaches, but really nothing compared to the BRUTAL leg pains and restless legs. I did, however, get a great full night sleep last night and got up very early and took my vitamins and supplements and went running about 1/2 mile. I felt good for the first hour or two, but then I had to keep sitting down while at work. I did make it through the day, so I am happy about that. I am trying to talk myself into feeling better. I am off work tomorrow so I hope to be back to myself on Thursday. I plan on doing the same routine tomorrow as well as going to the gun range and exercise. I can't wait for this to be over. It is so miserable and I can't wait to start my NEW life!
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hi gman. how are u doin now? i'm coming into day 9. i am amazed at the withdrawal. had no idea that was coming! There seems to be a total lack of knowledge on this as even the docs (well, the ones i've seen.)dont tell u about the delayed onset of withdrawal, and then the duration of the w/d is bizarre! I have been led to believe that i was the only one this is happening to and that has frustrated me immensely. do u know how many professionals have told me to get a grip? I have thought i was going mad, bringing symptoms on myself. I find this fascinating as i have now read a great deal of posts with almost all recalling the same freaky nightmare. has anyone else had this kind of total lack of understanding and support? i cant tell u how angry i am that this just isnt taken anywhere near as serious as it should be. I been battling for a long time but this is the hardest yet, coming of 0.8mg of sub. i was told it would be easy. my doc gave me paracetamol and ibuprofen to cope with the 2-3 days (ha bloody ha)of w/d that i was told would be a mild runny nose! are these people mad? I have been using heroin for 11 years. been on meths on and off for 5 years. aug 09 i stopped using gear and stuck to meths. i went from 30ml up to 80ml once stable i cut down 20, 10 and then 5ml every two weeeks and by jan10 i had got down to 30ml and swapped to sub 12mg. in hindsight i should have just stopped then as the subs took a good week before i felt comfortable. i continued on two week drops but struggled once i got down to 2mg from there my battle grew hard and in the endall of a sudden i had been on subs continuously for longer than it had took me to drop from 80 to 30ml of meths, the longest part being the subs were making me feel c**p. felt like i was on the edge of w/d all the time. tried to cut down further but decided i was prolonging the agony as with every drop there was a short w/d stage. once u down to 2mg i think the w/d is the same regardless of what u cut down to after that. this is when i struggled and spent longer on the subs than i intended. now i am persevering with this drawn out w/d process that i was'nt aware was going to happen. its been so comforting to know that i am not the only person this is happening to and that it is actually a normal w/d. cant wait to point this out to those who have been extremely short on sympathy for this enduring task. it is the first time since i stopped using in aug last year that i have had cravings again. i have thrown away my tabs so know there is nothing to get through. strength and love to all. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! Yes that is exactly how i feel...all of it I agree with. I've been on 2mg of suboxone longer than the oxycontin. I'd withdrawed off the oc before and I should have just quit it again instead of letting some stupid dr that had no clue put me on the an even more addictive drug & then tell me the withdraws would be nothing. I expected 5 to 7 days max. When I still hadn't slept or eaten after 10 days, I thought I was going crazy. Finally someone told me it took him 10 days to start feeling good & another 30 to completely let go of the fatique & chills & restlessness. Some people don't want to flat out say that because they don't want to scare people away from trying to quit....but I needed honesty. I am getting through it now that I know what to expect. I am on day 21 & actually drove to the library by myself to use the computer...don't laugh this was a big step. You have to make yourself get up & make yourself exercise. You WILL NOT want to but make yourself. I promise it does help. The first 7-10 days have an icechest of gatorade, a case of ensures & lots of bannanas (supposedly the potassium helps with leg cramps & one of the few things I could force down...try anything) right next to the bed. but mainly be determined. This is not as intense as the first 3 days of OXycontin withdrawals, it's not a sprint...it's a marathon. But totally bearable if you know what to expect. The doctors are freaking idiots...I've been to several to get suboxone, they all tell me a different story & each tried to up my dose as I was fighting to lower it. I ran out a few times thinking I'd detox & ran right back to the nearest dr, scared. But I was sick of feeling like I was waking up out of a coma every morning...it would take me an hour to be able to bend my fingers...it was like my circulatory system just stopped working at night (i think some of this is why it helps to MAKE yourself exercise during detox). I was ready to be free of suboxone, tired of being scared of running out. I started detox the day of my last appointment with an overpriced freaking sub dr that raised his prices that day with no warning & spent 5 minutes with me. It helped me having the suboxone there in case it got to be too much....i wasn't scared because I could stop it. but just keep making it through one more day. The disorientation went away after day 10.....slowly started getting better. On day 20 I actually had some energy, skin still sensitive but moving wasn't such an effort anymore. I think a few more days & I should be about back. This detox isn't the most intense but your muscles will ache, lots of chills, won't sleep for at least a week (take advantage of 30 minute naps & afterward make yourself get up & move around, it will help stop your legs hurting). All to be expected. But the part that surprises people is the duration. Just be ready for it. It's not going to drop off...it ebbs. But you will get through it.
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thank you back! i needed those words of inspiration. five weeks today and i'm not sleeping any more than 2-3 hours a night. feeling really exhausted. but your dead right i really am finding it hard to motivate myself, really depressed. hope you doing well. congrats on the achievement. hope u get to the library to reply soon!
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So,
Pretty Much the same story as everyone else. Couple hundred mg of oxy per day, got on Sub's to get off, 3x 8mg per day, blah blah. About a year into the subs i began to try to get myself off of them and i figured out that the sub "kick" was much longer than the oxy kick, so I started bouncing back and forth trying to feel normal. Got myself down to 3X 2mg (1/4 of an 8) per day but i then began to realize that every morning I was sick, and every evening I was edgy. I bit my wife's head off for a year, every morning, and yelled at her kids for stupid things every night. She left me about 40 days ago and that is when I decided to get off the subs completely. I am on day 40 ish now, and I still feel like crud. Emotional, MY FEET! they burn and feel "prickly" always. Does anyone know how to make this go away. The leg cramps, trots, GI issues, I can take all that, but this thing with my feet is making me truly crazy. I have no support system any longer, and I'm toughing it through the suicidal thoughts etc.. (mainly because I'm a coward at heart-not enough ballz to kill myself), but this feet thing is HELL! Also - if anyone's made it to the other side.... how long completely?! I mean I know it's different for everyone, but I've read everything from 45days to a year!
any help is appreciated
-Dan
Pretty Much the same story as everyone else. Couple hundred mg of oxy per day, got on Sub's to get off, 3x 8mg per day, blah blah. About a year into the subs i began to try to get myself off of them and i figured out that the sub "kick" was much longer than the oxy kick, so I started bouncing back and forth trying to feel normal. Got myself down to 3X 2mg (1/4 of an 8) per day but i then began to realize that every morning I was sick, and every evening I was edgy. I bit my wife's head off for a year, every morning, and yelled at her kids for stupid things every night. She left me about 40 days ago and that is when I decided to get off the subs completely. I am on day 40 ish now, and I still feel like crud. Emotional, MY FEET! they burn and feel "prickly" always. Does anyone know how to make this go away. The leg cramps, trots, GI issues, I can take all that, but this thing with my feet is making me truly crazy. I have no support system any longer, and I'm toughing it through the suicidal thoughts etc.. (mainly because I'm a coward at heart-not enough ballz to kill myself), but this feet thing is HELL! Also - if anyone's made it to the other side.... how long completely?! I mean I know it's different for everyone, but I've read everything from 45days to a year!
any help is appreciated
-Dan
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