Its great to here things are going well for you.
Ive been clean off all illegal drugs for 8 mths and have been cutting myself down from the methadone to the sub.
I only went onto 4 mg of suboxone and jumped off at 2mg because my script was messed up and I thought stuff it i'll get off all this sh*t.
I hate relying on any substance and as determined as I am i'll get through it,.
Does not make it any easier thou, this is bloody hard for me.
I'm actually very shocked at the symptoms i'm getting
All I want it to wake up and feel normal, I never want to rely on anything else.
It would be so easy to go and get a bag but f**k that, i've not done this to go right back to where I started.
Its a lesson and I believe i'm meant to feel this bad at the end because i'll be leaving my nightmare behind with the knowledge of how bad addiction can make you feel.
My DREAM, is to finally be free, to allow myself to live the life that was always impossible to live on drugs.
Its my time and I know that, I have this inner strength i've never had before :)
So its day 10 and I thought I was getting better as yesterday was better but again today I feel like c**p.
I feel comfort in the fact i've got this far but I now need to get off these df's ive been taking the past ten days.
Im determined t only take two today even if it means I am really suffering.
Tomoz i'll do the same and then ill try to only take one from them on then cut down to half.
Am I stupid for taking df's?
Yes and no.
I could not have got this far without them but if they have got into my system and I withdraw from them then it may not have been so worth it.
Hopefully ill cut myself off them and not be so bad.
I'm unfortunate that i've suffered worse then some people but i'll get there.
I HAVE TO.
Ive been clean off all illegal drugs for 8 mths and have been cutting myself down from the methadone to the sub.
I only went onto 4 mg of suboxone and jumped off at 2mg because my script was messed up and I thought stuff it i'll get off all this sh*t.
I hate relying on any substance and as determined as I am i'll get through it,.
Does not make it any easier thou, this is bloody hard for me.
I'm actually very shocked at the symptoms i'm getting
All I want it to wake up and feel normal, I never want to rely on anything else.
It would be so easy to go and get a bag but f**k that, i've not done this to go right back to where I started.
Its a lesson and I believe i'm meant to feel this bad at the end because i'll be leaving my nightmare behind with the knowledge of how bad addiction can make you feel.
My DREAM, is to finally be free, to allow myself to live the life that was always impossible to live on drugs.
Its my time and I know that, I have this inner strength i've never had before :)
So its day 10 and I thought I was getting better as yesterday was better but again today I feel like c**p.
I feel comfort in the fact i've got this far but I now need to get off these df's ive been taking the past ten days.
Im determined t only take two today even if it means I am really suffering.
Tomoz i'll do the same and then ill try to only take one from them on then cut down to half.
Am I stupid for taking df's?
Yes and no.
I could not have got this far without them but if they have got into my system and I withdraw from them then it may not have been so worth it.
Hopefully ill cut myself off them and not be so bad.
I'm unfortunate that i've suffered worse then some people but i'll get there.
I HAVE TO.
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Thank you for answering my post, so much appreciated.
I'm taking on board what your saying and cutting myself right down of the df's.
Im determined to only take 2 2day instead of my usual 5-6.
I managed yesterday on 3.
I do feel worse today but I 'm so determined to get through this.
I never knew how bad it was coming off of suboxone.
My key worker told me i'd be ok in a week (id**t)
Still I will get through this and I will be clean :)
Thank you.
I'm taking on board what your saying and cutting myself right down of the df's.
Im determined to only take 2 2day instead of my usual 5-6.
I managed yesterday on 3.
I do feel worse today but I 'm so determined to get through this.
I never knew how bad it was coming off of suboxone.
My key worker told me i'd be ok in a week (id**t)
Still I will get through this and I will be clean :)
Thank you.
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Im on day 9 of quiting suboxone, I stopped cold turkey at 4mgs a day with taking 2mg on my last day. Boy those first few days were bad, but Ive tried or been forced to stop using methadone before and had worse so its not that bad, Ive taken painkillers for 7 years, and finally knowing in my mind that Im soooo done with this lifestyle, I mean that many years of taking pills and searching and franticly trying to find them when your out takes such an emotional toll on you, Ive spent so much money on stupid pills just to make me feel normal, not even trying to get a buzz anymore, you do it until you have to stop or until you finally get so dissapointed in yourself that you really want to quit, I left my wife for doing cocaine. Am I any better? Its pounded on my emotions so bad, I have fully custody of my four year old daughter, Im 26, and I feel like such a failure as a father, thinking the old practice what you preach theory ya know, even though I am a good father I know I could be so much more, Im over the bed sickness now and having good and bad days, I sit here blankly thinking how much more time is going to take to feel like I did on the suboxone without taking it, I want the old me back, whoever that is, Im not sure I know anymore since Ive been on pills for such a long time now. I want my energy back so bad, Im tired of sitting here knowing sitting around is going to make me feel worse but dont have the willpower to get out and do anything, what do ya do? Ive had no clonidine, taken some ibuprofen, smoked some pot, the pot really does help alot despite what anyone tells ya, if you have access to it without getting in trouble id advise smoking some, not to get stoned, but just enough to switch up reality a little. The 5 hour energy shots dont work and Im sitting sweating like crazy, just under my armpits, badly. Is that the toxins escaping my body, if Im on day 9 and still having aches and pains, and sweating, and dont have much energy, how much longer before im done????? Mentally, ohhh, Im SOOO done, if i can last and get over the physical withdraws ill be fine, i just want my WANT TO attitude to come back, can someone tell me how long itll be before Im back to wanting to do something again???? So people let me tell ya, If ive gotten this far and not slipped up, then I can do this you just have to keep thinking THIS TOO SHALL PASS!!
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THERES NO SUCH THING AS A 150 FENTANYL PATCH AND THERES NO WAY YOU WOULD DO 3 100S A DAY. IT WOULD KILL YOU WITH A 45 MG VICODIN HABIT.THEY COME IN MICROGRAMS NOT MILLIGRAMS.
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What lol.
Whats the point in just quoting that.
If people are lying then simply just ignore it.
Whats the point in just quoting that.
If people are lying then simply just ignore it.
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Jason-hang in there buddy..u should b past the worst part and it'll start getting a lil better everyday. You will get thru it. When i got off methadone i thought i was gonna die. soooo sick. but i kept reminding myself how worth it the end result would be and i did it. when u dont feel like doin anything..get the f*** up and do it anyway. Gettin motivated is the hardest part cuz we think so much about doin somethin but stay stuck doin nothin. FORCE yourself up. go for a walk, watch a movie, call someone who's positive and supportive. these things will save ur ass. do anything except think about how u feel or how u wanna feel..some time will pass and all of a sudden u'll realize u feel better. hold on..i'll pray 4 u n ur daughter.
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hi my name is bethant and have fibro myalgia. the dr.'s ave had me on methadone and lortab for 10 years now i want to get off but am terrified
ot the withdrawl symptoms. the dr. said he could prescribe subone. does anyone have any advice for me. i am currently taking 10mg of methadone and 4 lortabs a day sincerely bethany
ot the withdrawl symptoms. the dr. said he could prescribe subone. does anyone have any advice for me. i am currently taking 10mg of methadone and 4 lortabs a day sincerely bethany
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My advice would be to reduce off the methadone and avoid the suboxone/subutex.
Your prolonging it and believe me the sub detox is unreal (currently going through it).
Get your self down to lowest dose of methadone and come off of it.
All the very best.
Your prolonging it and believe me the sub detox is unreal (currently going through it).
Get your self down to lowest dose of methadone and come off of it.
All the very best.
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listen, i've been using oxys for a few years now. in the last six to eight months..i cant even remember anymore..it turned from recreational to daily use. the worst part is i got my girlfriend hooked.
we had to detox at home without anything but a few downers a few couple times. each time, partying would get us hooked again for fear of withdrawl.. u know how it is if your like me... using it once, then a day off then a few days together then all of a sudden u feel a little shitty so you do it again.
well here in canada suboxone has not been around for long.... in my town.. literally six months..and i dont live in a small town.. its actually a border town .. u know connecting canada to the usa. anyways, the first time i took suboxone i took it for 4-5 days .once again i cant remember. i got it off the street. here its 20 bucks a pill... same as a 40 of oxycontine. either way, i took 1 and a half of them the first day and it made me feel great..specially since u gotta wait 24 hours after doing ur last line before taking the drug. It made me feel like i had energy, made me feel like i could at least put some food down. Easied everything. It was perfect, sh*t it worked so good after 3-4 days i was off pills and i had Zero issues, at least that i noticed. i went back to doing pills after about 10 days. once again, to celebrate ... u know how it goes and one day turned into 3 and that turned into..OMG im going to withdrawl.. and guess what? subs are not easy to find around these parts... not only that u need to get a few cause u dont want to find one or two and be screwed for the rest of the time and relapse.
either way, im on my 3rd day of subs, this time i know better. we took 1 the first day and felt good, half the second day and felt fine, today i decided to break my last half into two, half in the morning and half at night.
tomorrow i stop taking anything and u know what... its going to work. theres going to be a day or two of a little bit of a shitty feeling..MAYBE.. really like people say if u start the day with a shower and then get a good meal into you, ur going to be fine...
the worst will be behind you and you can move on in life.
sure this may lead to relapse for many but for those who want to quit and are afraid of feeling shitty... this way should work best!!
look at it like this.... day 1 (24 hours) - very very shitty.
if you need take it after 20 hours.. but u gotta feel BAD!!!
day 2 - leg pains, take some tylenol.its not like normal leg pain its easy to deal with until bed time, at bedtime take a bath or shower first..i find being cold helps, i open the window and turn off the heat (its winter here in canada)
day 2-3-4-5(maybe) - these days ur taking subs, first day 1 and the rest half.. ur going to feel good and call this drug a miracle!!!!
day 6-7-8 - energy may drop but i think its cause this drug makes u a little high but now ur on track to being the same old you!! these days may have a little bit of water ass and possibly some leg pain but nothing the tips earlier cant help you with.
then u got nothing to worry about, screw the oc's and screw the subs.. treat urself to a milkshake from mcdonalds and share it with someone you love..
thats the best way to get off these bit***s...
:-) if this helps you, post it up and let people know. TRY THIS and tell me it doesnt work!
i searched for hours and hours on this forum with no one seemingly doing what i was doing but it worked for me, it worked for my girlfriend.
btw ~ we were using 80-120 mg of OC a day
we had to detox at home without anything but a few downers a few couple times. each time, partying would get us hooked again for fear of withdrawl.. u know how it is if your like me... using it once, then a day off then a few days together then all of a sudden u feel a little shitty so you do it again.
well here in canada suboxone has not been around for long.... in my town.. literally six months..and i dont live in a small town.. its actually a border town .. u know connecting canada to the usa. anyways, the first time i took suboxone i took it for 4-5 days .once again i cant remember. i got it off the street. here its 20 bucks a pill... same as a 40 of oxycontine. either way, i took 1 and a half of them the first day and it made me feel great..specially since u gotta wait 24 hours after doing ur last line before taking the drug. It made me feel like i had energy, made me feel like i could at least put some food down. Easied everything. It was perfect, sh*t it worked so good after 3-4 days i was off pills and i had Zero issues, at least that i noticed. i went back to doing pills after about 10 days. once again, to celebrate ... u know how it goes and one day turned into 3 and that turned into..OMG im going to withdrawl.. and guess what? subs are not easy to find around these parts... not only that u need to get a few cause u dont want to find one or two and be screwed for the rest of the time and relapse.
either way, im on my 3rd day of subs, this time i know better. we took 1 the first day and felt good, half the second day and felt fine, today i decided to break my last half into two, half in the morning and half at night.
tomorrow i stop taking anything and u know what... its going to work. theres going to be a day or two of a little bit of a shitty feeling..MAYBE.. really like people say if u start the day with a shower and then get a good meal into you, ur going to be fine...
the worst will be behind you and you can move on in life.
sure this may lead to relapse for many but for those who want to quit and are afraid of feeling shitty... this way should work best!!
look at it like this.... day 1 (24 hours) - very very shitty.
if you need take it after 20 hours.. but u gotta feel BAD!!!
day 2 - leg pains, take some tylenol.its not like normal leg pain its easy to deal with until bed time, at bedtime take a bath or shower first..i find being cold helps, i open the window and turn off the heat (its winter here in canada)
day 2-3-4-5(maybe) - these days ur taking subs, first day 1 and the rest half.. ur going to feel good and call this drug a miracle!!!!
day 6-7-8 - energy may drop but i think its cause this drug makes u a little high but now ur on track to being the same old you!! these days may have a little bit of water ass and possibly some leg pain but nothing the tips earlier cant help you with.
then u got nothing to worry about, screw the oc's and screw the subs.. treat urself to a milkshake from mcdonalds and share it with someone you love..
thats the best way to get off these bit***s...
:-) if this helps you, post it up and let people know. TRY THIS and tell me it doesnt work!
i searched for hours and hours on this forum with no one seemingly doing what i was doing but it worked for me, it worked for my girlfriend.
btw ~ we were using 80-120 mg of OC a day
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My husband and I were both heroin addicts- aprox habit for him was maybe 10 bags a day and me slightly less- got sober, got married, had a couple kids, went through interferon for Hep C, got a shrink, got a pain pill dr and we were off and running again.
Maybe 10-12 lortab 10's- hydrocodone
3-4 daily vicaprofen 7.5
soma, klonopin and zanax
EACH
ended up with a new dr who began giving us both suboxone 24 mg after a couple of weeks trying to kick the pills and having an awful kick
that was 4 years ago. We both have tried to get off of the suboxone several times and eventually last year finally tapered down to 8 mg each
I slowly tapered all the way down to 1/4 of a 2mg pill- my husband kicked down from 6mg to 1 mg and that was hellish- he kept that dose for several months and then kicked from a 2mg dose. This is not the first kick for either one of us, not the first opiate to ever kick but by far the worst and longest lasting. Been off of suboxone since December 7, making this a full month almost and still feeling crappy and emotionally drained and seriously tired of the insomnia. The bottoms of my feet still hurt, still can't eat (dropped from 110 lb to 97lb- mostly dehydration I think, but it sux!) My husband was worse for the initial week but after that we leveled off about equal and the symptoms just seem to decrease so slowly it is almost imperceptible. Every time we sneeze (multiple times a day) one of us makes a comment about the horrible "suboxonitis" we seem to have caught. HAHA!! I seriously remind every addict that there is no magic pill and that suboxone delays the inevitable kick AND has its own fun kick so its a pretty nasty way to go. Worse by far than methadone, and really awful damage to your teeth, too, from all that citris dissolving- my dentist refused to continue to fix my teeth till I got off the stuff because the damage was so extensive and he was tired of his work being etched away at the speed it was, plus it was causing bad decoloration. Suboxone may work as a detox plan for an opiate addict, but it is not meant for a maintance plan and for long term use. My dr said the same thing- these symptoms aren't normal, I shouldn't have any problem getting off of it, blah f*cking blah, the emotional stuff is all in my head (because I don't think that I have cried more than maybe once or twice in the past six months, and for the first couple weeks, I was calling my best friend a couple times a day in tears), my husband has never had a panic attack before so the doc prescribed him an anti depressant- LOL-
Bottom line suboxone sux! It is a much better idea to simply kick whatever opiate you are on rather than try and put it off indefinitely and think it will go away. Suboxone will lull you into a false sense of security and even may make you feel like you aren't an addict. But you still are and once again, there is no magic pill.
Maybe 10-12 lortab 10's- hydrocodone
3-4 daily vicaprofen 7.5
soma, klonopin and zanax
EACH
ended up with a new dr who began giving us both suboxone 24 mg after a couple of weeks trying to kick the pills and having an awful kick
that was 4 years ago. We both have tried to get off of the suboxone several times and eventually last year finally tapered down to 8 mg each
I slowly tapered all the way down to 1/4 of a 2mg pill- my husband kicked down from 6mg to 1 mg and that was hellish- he kept that dose for several months and then kicked from a 2mg dose. This is not the first kick for either one of us, not the first opiate to ever kick but by far the worst and longest lasting. Been off of suboxone since December 7, making this a full month almost and still feeling crappy and emotionally drained and seriously tired of the insomnia. The bottoms of my feet still hurt, still can't eat (dropped from 110 lb to 97lb- mostly dehydration I think, but it sux!) My husband was worse for the initial week but after that we leveled off about equal and the symptoms just seem to decrease so slowly it is almost imperceptible. Every time we sneeze (multiple times a day) one of us makes a comment about the horrible "suboxonitis" we seem to have caught. HAHA!! I seriously remind every addict that there is no magic pill and that suboxone delays the inevitable kick AND has its own fun kick so its a pretty nasty way to go. Worse by far than methadone, and really awful damage to your teeth, too, from all that citris dissolving- my dentist refused to continue to fix my teeth till I got off the stuff because the damage was so extensive and he was tired of his work being etched away at the speed it was, plus it was causing bad decoloration. Suboxone may work as a detox plan for an opiate addict, but it is not meant for a maintance plan and for long term use. My dr said the same thing- these symptoms aren't normal, I shouldn't have any problem getting off of it, blah f*cking blah, the emotional stuff is all in my head (because I don't think that I have cried more than maybe once or twice in the past six months, and for the first couple weeks, I was calling my best friend a couple times a day in tears), my husband has never had a panic attack before so the doc prescribed him an anti depressant- LOL-
Bottom line suboxone sux! It is a much better idea to simply kick whatever opiate you are on rather than try and put it off indefinitely and think it will go away. Suboxone will lull you into a false sense of security and even may make you feel like you aren't an addict. But you still are and once again, there is no magic pill.
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I have been reading this thread for years. I was introduced to suboxone in 2006 and have been taking it continuously from June 07-Dec 08. I was so sure that I couldn't function without it that I just never gave myself the chance to try. I constantly was trying to taper going to taking it every other day...every three days if I could hold out. I had times where I thought I couldnt get out of bed and felt the creepy crawlies under my skin...everything that it says in this thread. I finally realized that my symptoms would worsen when I went online to see what to do to lessen them.
It is KEY to remember that people post on here when they feel awful and are seeking a way to make it stop, not when they taper off with no side effects whatsoever. That is why this whole thread it full of negative effects people experience. For me suboxone literally saved my life. I was mad and frustrated when I thought I couldn't get off...then I stoped thinking I couldn't get off. I am on my fifth day and the only symptom I have had is a few sneezes. Completely worth it for the health benefit of no longer being opiate dependent. I have been really busy which helps big time because I don't have time to think about how much I want to take suboxone. The whole time my full bottle has been in my purse everywhere I go. Sometimes I think it may be nice to take some but then I forget to do it before I reach for the bottle because I am so busy.
As soon as I stopped spending my days thinking about how to get off the suboxone I got off it scotch free.
I did wait until my finals were over, my breakup wasn't so fresh and drama in my life was at a minimum before I forgot about it which makes me believe the symptoms I experienced in the past that I swore weren't mental really were mostly mental.
Even though I really don't like writing on these things I want someone realize they can get off and it wont be that bad if you don't let it.
It is KEY to remember that people post on here when they feel awful and are seeking a way to make it stop, not when they taper off with no side effects whatsoever. That is why this whole thread it full of negative effects people experience. For me suboxone literally saved my life. I was mad and frustrated when I thought I couldn't get off...then I stoped thinking I couldn't get off. I am on my fifth day and the only symptom I have had is a few sneezes. Completely worth it for the health benefit of no longer being opiate dependent. I have been really busy which helps big time because I don't have time to think about how much I want to take suboxone. The whole time my full bottle has been in my purse everywhere I go. Sometimes I think it may be nice to take some but then I forget to do it before I reach for the bottle because I am so busy.
As soon as I stopped spending my days thinking about how to get off the suboxone I got off it scotch free.
I did wait until my finals were over, my breakup wasn't so fresh and drama in my life was at a minimum before I forgot about it which makes me believe the symptoms I experienced in the past that I swore weren't mental really were mostly mental.
Even though I really don't like writing on these things I want someone realize they can get off and it wont be that bad if you don't let it.
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I started taking percoent while dealing with two rounds of chemo therapy, then started taking it as a party drug after I was introduced to it by some friends again by snorting it. I did them only for about 2 months. I was having to take at least 4 10mg of percs a day just to keep myself out of withdrawal. I was told about subxone from another addict who got there life together, they wanted to help me out and gave me 3 pills 8mg. I started with 1/2 a pill once a day for two days and then went down to a 1/4 of a pill for 5 days. I stopped monday and by tuesday night I was having chills and my legs were kicking. I have to be off the percs because they get out of u system after 3 days. Now I'm afraid I'm addicted to subxone.Anybody got any ideas?Or is it just mental?
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Hi, it seems like you are reacting pretty strongly to that amount of suboxone. It is more than normal, but definitely not out of the possibility of suboxone. With that said, what you are describing are definitely WD symptoms. Stay with it, suboxone stays with you longer than percocet.
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i'm on day 15 of no subozone....although i feel a lot better and somewhat human again i still feel physical withdraws....i'm perpetually cold....been sleeping ok but not great....i've been going out drinking here and there to distract me and to help me sleep....i wake up feeling fine and then after a few hours i feel chills here and there but its getting better
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