While I don't remember my parents having a specific night of the week that was "sex night", per se, I can definitely relate to the routine part. Even as a kid, I recognized the subtle changes in my parents behavior when it was going to be a sex night, even anticipating and looking out for the signs. Like another commenter said, I would then excuse myself to bed early, but not because it made me anxious or uncomfortable, rather I just wanted my parents to believe I was safely sound asleep before getting it on. I don't think my dad was bothered either way, but I'm sure my mom was self-conscious about it, at least to start off. I would hear them kissing, then a loud wince from my mom and sometimes she would tell dad "not so hard" or "just go slow". The bed started squeaking and mom's breathing grew heavy, with muffled moans and whimpers like she was trying to keep her mouth closed to stifle her sounds. Dad quickly worked into a rhythm and soon it became all too much for mom, letting out a loud gasp of "oh f**k!" as my parents bed started knocking up against the wall. This was typically the point where it became too much for my adolescent body also, busting a nut all over myself. Yet thankfully, being only 15, I was quickly ready to go again ;-)
I am guessing that your husband is unaware of any of this so my suggestion is to say to him that because she is now sexually aware, making love when your daughter is at home makes you uncomfortable, without of course revealing the true secret reason behind it. Even if you did get "proof" that she has been listening in, I suggest not confronting her but adjusting your behaviour to deny her the chance. Make love when she is out or at school or with friends and activities (my parents enrolled me and my sister in Sunday school I suspect more for their own benefit than our spiritual wellbeing). If she is into sports, leave her at the game from time to time with an excuse that you need to run some "errands". Go back home, make passionate love and return to fetch her. etc. etc.
My mums room was down the hall from my room, but I'd listen on the landing. My daughters room is next to mine but she's recently insisted in sleeping on the futon which lays across the wall that backs onto my room. She has vocal tics and I've heard on a few occasions on the landing outside my room, and when we're downstairs I've heard her get out of bed and back in etc. I wouldn't say I was loud but I suppose when I'm caught up in the moment and about to reach climax I'm not exactly mute either. The bed isn't exactly quiet and the 'slapping' noises are not always preventable either. I only use toys alone and when they're not around so that isn't an issue. My husband works whenever they're not around so the night is our only chance. We don't have a routine, it's just as the mood takes us, and when the girls were 'asleep'. Our youngest aged 7 knows about sex and the biology of it, as I discovered I'd left it too late to discuss with my older girl and didn't want to make the same mistake. Yes, if Auralism is an actual thing, then thats what I have. I don't need to watch a porn to pleasure myself, I just need to hear it. And if my daughters the same, who am I to judge? I have no issue in it what so ever. I would willingly record and send her an audio of a porn if I thought it would stop her listening to me, but going back to my 13 year old self I don't think that would have stopped me....think I might just need counselling
From your descriptions the evidence suggests that she has probably heard you already (using the futon for no apparent reason is the big giveaway). This really bothers you but from your postings your husband does not seem to have an opinion on this. Really? By listening in just once, your girl will have experienced the forbidden fruit of real time sex and because she likes what she hears she will continue to do so whenever she can, just as you did. After all we all like doing things we enjoy over again even if it is highly taboo and there are risks involved. The porn audio is a very bad idea so please do not go there (it is also probably illegal at her age). It may also encourage her to visit actual porn websites and that would be a minefield at her age (remember kids can and do find their way around computer parental controls - you do have them I assume as you hint that you visit those sites yourself for your own pleasure). It's you and your husband's lovemaking "in the moment" that excites her and that is what she wants to hear, not some anonymous porno sex recording. As to how to deal with it, that is where it becomes tricky. You need to tread carefully as confrontation could be a disaster for you all. To that end your counselling option is probably a good start, at least to get ideas on how to deal with it, but if this is done with your husband, your little teenage secret may have to be aired to him if 100% true honesty is required. Are you prepared for that? Otherwise, getting rid of the futon could give her a not to subtle signal that you know what she is up to but I doubt she'll back off more than temporarily as she enjoys listening to and is addicted to what you do too much. Alternatively, switch up your routine. Ditch your night time loving sessions and try early morning sex. Most people have a radio on before they get up, so try that to mask yourselves. One of those light classical stations would do. You might surprise yourself, morning sex is a very refreshing way to start the day and teenagers are notorious for sleeping in.
The porn audio was an idea of how desperate I was, I'd never actually do it, she'd be mortified lol. I found that she'd been going through my 'top drawer' about 18 months ago, so I bought a lockable case for my things and bought one solo toy she could take and use freely without me having to confront her. It's hers (but she doesn't know it). I've no idea if she uses it and couldn't care less if she does, suppose what I'm getting at is, I 'get it'. I get every aspect of it. Her listening in to me though is just a complete turn off for me. As it would be if anyone was listening in for that matter. and I think its getting to me so much because I know how very real it is. I don't think telling my husband about my mum would help any...he knows I like to listen to others and knows I used to listen to my dads lodgers when I was young and he gets it 100%, I don't see how mentioning my mum n co would make any difference in that way. We've tried early morning, it takes me sooo long for me to to come around, and then theres always the chance my 7 year old wants our attention (she can wake up for the day anywhere around 4:30) or as soon as she hears the slightest noise from our room. When I say he understands where I'm coming from with my eldest listening in, his attitude is always, 'so what if she can hear us'....
Ooh whoever made that last comment actually might have a point! (Now I've googled the words lol) My husband when we first met loved the whole public scene, in the park, down by the lake etc. That might be why he's more laid back about our eldest listening in...although I do still find that a bit disturbing, its understandable.
Although my eldest has always had parental controls, at the age of 11 she typed 'sex' onto Google images. When I discovered this, I was mortified at what she'd actually seen so tried to have a conversation about the sex industry and how these people were paid to take these kind of photo's. She was completely shut down and wouldn't even look at me. She's since discovered ***this post is edited by moderator *** *** posting of web addresses is not allowed*** Please read our Terms of Use (I think through an old bookmark of mine if I'm honest), and again I upped the parental controls and restricted the site. Didn't do it to be mean, did it because she isn't mature enough to understand the nature of that kind of content, and I explained that to her and she appeared to have understood. She cannot delete her internet browser so she know whatever site she goes on, it'll be logged in the history page. Unless theres a porn app she can download, I'm pretty sure she isn't seeing anything she shouldn't.
Neat idea about getting her own toy! Presumably it's a generic / vanilla vibe, not a penis shape or such (LOL). It seems like you and your husband have a problem when it comes to be hearing and being heard as you say he doesn't have an issue with your daughter listening in ("so what if she can hear us..."). Unhelpful to you to say the least. IMHO the flag here is the "the "whole public scene" you describe from your dating days (presumably meaning you had sex in places where there was a chance of being seen or heard). That was his thing, not yours. Understandably at the time you were in love so went along with it because you wanted to please him and it was also exciting and different.
Now you feel trapped as now it looks like he still harbors at least some "reverse - auralism" (?) in his emotional makeup (i.e. either enjoy or not being concerned at being seen or listened to). If you can not resolve this with him (ant it seems like you can't), please seek help, otherwise your ship may soon be on the rocks. One more thing (and I hate to bring this up, but feel I must). You also have to look to the future as soon enough your daughter will become a sexually active woman with a loving partner. What will you do in (say) 10 years time when she brings her man to stay with you and you hear them having sex. Will your old emotions well up to the surface and take back control? Appreciate you opening up your soul on this one and good luck in resolving it. And please update as you work this through.