Hi there,
just wanted to add my story since reading that a lot of women/ families have to go through this experience after having a pap smear. I also was made to believe that this is just part of a normal checkup, this was my first pregnancy and so I was trusting the doctors to do what is right and normal. I had my first gyn appointment in week 8 in June this year. We saw the heart beating, everything was well and I was supposed to come back the week after to get my mother pass (Germany). The pregnancy went really good up until this point.
A few hours after the appointment however, I started having little cramps (which is normal for me after a pap smear so I didn't think too much of it and the doctor even told me that this could happen including light spotting){in hindsight I wonder how that would be even acceptable - spotting in pregnancy?! - does not really sound normal to me}. About 5 hours later I started bleeding.The cramps got worse and worse and in the evening around 11pm I miscarried. Less than 24 hours I was sitting on the same spot at the doctors being told that they could not see a pregnancy anymore. They also made clear straight away that the miscarriage could have many many reasons, but I should be sure of one thing - it would have definitely not been the pap smear. After that I had to go to the hospital where I was supposed to have an operation, which I refused. I felt strongly that I had been in the situation that I was in due to doctor's intervention and I didn't want to be subject to it again. Our bodies are amazing and we must trust them to sort themselves out alone. A few days later (5) my HCT levels were down to 'normal'/ not pregnant.
Doctors make their money with each 'thing' they offer - pap smears, operations, every extra check up to ensure the baby is healthy, etc. - we all must keep this in mind.
The one thing that really upset me is that I got the feedback of a lot of doctors that a miscarriage can have a lot of reasons but with 100% guarantee it would not be the pap smear. Makes me wonder how they come to this conclusion. To be fair they might not even be aware that there is a link. Because there is no research out there about this topic. Let's say this pap smear triggers a miscarriage in every 1000's women, but the doctor would only see about 100 pregnant women a year, then it is pretty difficult to see the link on a small scale. I can see that women in english speaking forums are more vocal about this topic than they are in german forums. We should all share our stories to make clear that we all are not just a coincidence but that the practice of conducting pap smears so early on is questionable. It would also be great if women knew about the risks from the beginning on not just find out once they were affected.
I know one thing for sure - next pregnancy I will wait until week 12 before I will see a doctor.
All the best you beautiful ladies and families! xxx
just wanted to add my story since reading that a lot of women/ families have to go through this experience after having a pap smear. I also was made to believe that this is just part of a normal checkup, this was my first pregnancy and so I was trusting the doctors to do what is right and normal. I had my first gyn appointment in week 8 in June this year. We saw the heart beating, everything was well and I was supposed to come back the week after to get my mother pass (Germany). The pregnancy went really good up until this point.
A few hours after the appointment however, I started having little cramps (which is normal for me after a pap smear so I didn't think too much of it and the doctor even told me that this could happen including light spotting){in hindsight I wonder how that would be even acceptable - spotting in pregnancy?! - does not really sound normal to me}. About 5 hours later I started bleeding.The cramps got worse and worse and in the evening around 11pm I miscarried. Less than 24 hours I was sitting on the same spot at the doctors being told that they could not see a pregnancy anymore. They also made clear straight away that the miscarriage could have many many reasons, but I should be sure of one thing - it would have definitely not been the pap smear. After that I had to go to the hospital where I was supposed to have an operation, which I refused. I felt strongly that I had been in the situation that I was in due to doctor's intervention and I didn't want to be subject to it again. Our bodies are amazing and we must trust them to sort themselves out alone. A few days later (5) my HCT levels were down to 'normal'/ not pregnant.
Doctors make their money with each 'thing' they offer - pap smears, operations, every extra check up to ensure the baby is healthy, etc. - we all must keep this in mind.
The one thing that really upset me is that I got the feedback of a lot of doctors that a miscarriage can have a lot of reasons but with 100% guarantee it would not be the pap smear. Makes me wonder how they come to this conclusion. To be fair they might not even be aware that there is a link. Because there is no research out there about this topic. Let's say this pap smear triggers a miscarriage in every 1000's women, but the doctor would only see about 100 pregnant women a year, then it is pretty difficult to see the link on a small scale. I can see that women in english speaking forums are more vocal about this topic than they are in german forums. We should all share our stories to make clear that we all are not just a coincidence but that the practice of conducting pap smears so early on is questionable. It would also be great if women knew about the risks from the beginning on not just find out once they were affected.
I know one thing for sure - next pregnancy I will wait until week 12 before I will see a doctor.
All the best you beautiful ladies and families! xxx
I'm so sorry! It's very hard to go through it. Next time I am not doing a pap and also waiting a long time to see a doctor. They can't be sure. I think so many are sure but what is based on? There are no studies.
Sadly i aslo had a miscarriage last night, this was goin to be my 3rd child , i had a paps smier and started bleeding right after , went to er and found out i already had lost the baby. So defenetly if i get pregnant again i will not have it done. Some say is safe but i guess is not the same in all cases. Am devastated because my childrean were so thrilled for the baby and i feel like am goin to break their hearts they are 8 and 10 years old but eventually i will have to tell them , i just want to do it in the best way for them,but dont even know how
I was in the same case i went to the hospital an they didnt me to pap smears an after i started bleeding i lose my baby that was my first child
https://www.steadyhealth.com/medical-answers/pap-smears-during-pregnancy-is-there-a-risk-of-miscarriage
There isn't a risk at all and it is actually safer for you to get a pap to make sure everything is okay.. These horror stories are awful for a pregnant woman to read and although I understand your need to "blame something" for your loss I do not believe that jumping to conclusions and scaring women that are simply looking for answers is the correct way to go about it. I do hope that you found peace in your individual situations and that this article can be informative and reassuring for everyone.
This just happened to me with an internal same exact thing.. 10 weeks perfect blood count.. I heard my babiis heart stop beating in the ultra sound directly after the internal
Considering how many women this has happened to maybe you could take the judgement and shove it.. did you know removing a part of ur skull is a good cure for a headache or at least that's what we use to do.. did you know there's no cure for cancer.. people die from the flu.. or at least that's how it use to be.. so how about you stick 100 women in their 10th week and see how many miscarry.. get 100 more and don't do it.. compare it.. and then tell me you know what you're talking about.. although I think I understand ur need to "be a penis head" ohh wait I don't if people want to come out and share that they lost RIGHT after an internal WITH A PERFECT blood count and the doctors keep telling us they HAVE NO CLUE WHY it happens there are just many reasons we have the right to know it's happened before
This sane thing happened to me, I'm writing this and I'm currently 4 weeks pregnant with my 2nd pregnancy, however, the first 1 went the same, I went to the doctor and did not know what was normal procedure so when she said do a pap, me and bf thought it were normal, as I layer there durine the pap. I started cramping, soon after, that night I begin to bleed, I was 5 weeks, I miscarried and I definitely believe it had something to do wit that pap, Im not doing it this time no matter what, my heart cannot take another loss.
Yes u are right. But it doesn.t mean it can.t happen. I just had a miscarage after the pap smear test.
I went to the surgery for a cervical swab due to brownish with mucus discharge. Soon after the speculum was removed I seem like to have a hemorrhage. The one who performed the procedure called the hospital straight away, but the bleeding subsided. Today I am not 100 percent certain I'm still pregnant, cross-fingers I am as this is going to be my first baby. My first scan will be next week and all I can just do is pray.
Recently found out I was pregnant, at 5 weeks went to ER for small amounts of cramping, had a pap smear and intravaginal us done. Everything looked great. Fast forward 3 weeks, had my first ob appointment, Dr insisted on doing another pap smear(there was slight blood on the swab) even though I had one 3 weeks prior, saw heart beat, found out I was having twins, was over joyed, but left the office with slight cramping (supposed to be normal.) Continued cramping for the rest of the night, woke up next day to blood and even more cramping, went to the ER, they did ANOTHER frikkin pap smear even though I had one the day prior, and ultrasound which showed two very healthy heartbeats, was told to get rest and drink fluids which I did. Woke up in the middle of the night to insane amounts of blood, and passing one undeniable fetus. Went back to the ER, where they did a FOURTH pap smear (all of these occurring in less than a months time) and them telling me there was nothing left in my uterus, I had miscarried both babies, but absolutely no way that digging around in my cervix 4 times in an early pregnancy could have possibly caused the mc. I sense bs, and will absolutely never allow even 1 pap smear so early in a pregnancy. Ps I have 2 healthy prior pregnancies, neither one of which I sought medical care for before 8 weeks, and somehow those were just fine.
I am currently going thro a mc . I had a papsmear and a vaginal ultrasound done on 04/17/17 my baby was 10 weeks . I started spotting on 4/19 dr said it was normal but i wanted to confirm that the baby was okay So i asked for an external sonogram to check fot yhe babys heartbeat since i had previously lost another baby right after a papsmear. Unfortunately the dr confirmed that the baby no longer had a heartbeat he also confirmed that the babys heartbeat stopped a day after the pap smear. Im so devastated and heartbroken at the same angry for allowing myself to have a papsmear this time around. I think there must be a small risk of mc from papsmears or internal /vaginal sonograms. I am still
Bleeding heavily and got to see the baby /fetus. My heart is broken. I do have two older children, i dont recall doing papsmears while pregnant with them. It just could be that my uterus is sensitive. But looking foward if God allows for another pregnancy i will opt out of a papsmear. Im praying for healing and comfort for you all ladies wnd myself too.
Bleeding heavily and got to see the baby /fetus. My heart is broken. I do have two older children, i dont recall doing papsmears while pregnant with them. It just could be that my uterus is sensitive. But looking foward if God allows for another pregnancy i will opt out of a papsmear. Im praying for healing and comfort for you all ladies wnd myself too.
Actually I think your response is c**p. I had the same thing happen to me. I had gone to the hospital on a Friday with pains thinking it could be my appendix, turns out I was only constipated and that was causing the pain. They did an ultra sound, baby looked healthy, heart beat was great. Had my first dr appt that Monday, they did a pap and it actually hurt, she was up there for a long time and it seemed very evasive. I have received paps several times and nothing as long and painful as this. Stared bleeding the next day, went to the OB the following day. Had another ultra sound and they stayed the babies heart stopped beating 2 days ago. Same day I had the pap. Sorry I won't take that as a coincidence.
Stabbing at the mucus plug and your cervix with a wire brush while pregnant can pull on the plug and will cause miscarriages. Your cervix is the opening to your uterus. Go plug your sink with clay. Fill the sink, Now grab a wire cleaning brush and start stabbing at the dough. You will be extremely lucky if the water stays in the sink.
Same exact thing happened to me 2 years ago, I was around 8 weeks and they did a Pap smear and it hurt more than normal, a day after I was spotting brown and then started full on bleeding. I believe that the Pap smear caused my miscarriage because I'm 22 weeks pregnant now and my new doctor has not done not one Pap smear on me.