5w1d and first prenatal visit. All was good. Pap smear was performed. 3 days later, I started spotting. Went back to doc, had an ultrasound. Sac was still there but doc said cervix and heartbeat were too low and there's a greater chance of miscarry. True enough, I passed the sac that same night. So next time I get pregnant, I am going to refuse to have a pap smear. This just hurts too much.
Yes me the WHIS research in Atlanta Nurse Antonina did my PAP during my first week of pregnancy and caused me an ectopic pregnancy i am mad its been 15 years since I been pregnant
It just happened to my daughter last week. She was 12 weeks and went in for a check up. I went with to make sure the Dr. knew that being high risk for miscarriages ran in our family. The Dr kept insisting that "Data" didnt suggest a problem like that being genitics. With in the hour after her doing a pap she miscarried. The Dr caused it.
I had an ultrasound as part of a checkup at twenty weeks. I had zero cramping and have never spotted after sex during that or any pregnancy. The ultra-sound showed my baby was healthy and kicking. The nurse practitioner told me I needed a pap smear to complete the exam.
Previously, pap smears had involved the use of a large cotton covered swab (big q-tip). Instead, this practitioner used a new device that looked like a plastic arrow with stiff bristles, pointing up, along the the sides. I visited the bathroom on the way home and noticed that I had begun spotting. I lost the baby the next day. The link was unmistakable and
After this miscarriage, I refused pap smears while pregnant. I have had eight successful pregnancies.
My personal advice to healthy pregnant women: Unless you belong to a high risk group, skip the pap smear until after your baby is born.
According to the MAYO CLINIC:
"Doctors generally recommend repeating Pap testing every 3 years for women ages 21-65. Women age 30 and older can consider Pap testing every 5 years if the procedure is combined with testing for HPV.
If you have certain risk factors, your doctor may recommend more-frequent Pap smears, regardless of your age.
These risk factors include:
-A diagnosis of cervical cancer or a Pap smear that showed precancerous cells
-Exposure to diethylstilbestrol (DES) before birth
-HIV infection
-Weakened immune system due to organ transplant, chemotherapy or chronic corticosteroid use"
If you are not part of the risk-factor group, why subject your unborn baby to the risks (as yet unrecognized by most doctors) of this procedure?
We are rarely, if ever, informed of the true risk of of many procedures because the medical providers discount signs of risk or have not kept up with the latest research. Most women, even if certain pap smear procedure caused their miscarriage, are emotionally not up to the rigors of an uphill legal battle against the cadre of insurance company lawyers who will defend the doctor. (in the legal profession, such lawyers are called insurance company whor*s and no one is allowed to say "insurance company" during the trial) Because of this, the risk is unknown. Unreported equals never happened.
Even if a woman goes to court, before the trial, if it looks like she may win, she is offered a settlement by the doctor's or hospital's insurance company, along with a gag order to keep her from telling anyone about it. Settled cases go silent.
Previously, pap smears had involved the use of a large cotton covered swab (big q-tip). Instead, this practitioner used a new device that looked like a plastic arrow with stiff bristles, pointing up, along the the sides. I visited the bathroom on the way home and noticed that I had begun spotting. I lost the baby the next day. The link was unmistakable and
After this miscarriage, I refused pap smears while pregnant. I have had eight successful pregnancies.
My personal advice to healthy pregnant women: Unless you belong to a high risk group, skip the pap smear until after your baby is born.
According to the MAYO CLINIC:
"Doctors generally recommend repeating Pap testing every 3 years for women ages 21-65. Women age 30 and older can consider Pap testing every 5 years if the procedure is combined with testing for HPV.
If you have certain risk factors, your doctor may recommend more-frequent Pap smears, regardless of your age.
These risk factors include:
-A diagnosis of cervical cancer or a Pap smear that showed precancerous cells
-Exposure to diethylstilbestrol (DES) before birth
-HIV infection
-Weakened immune system due to organ transplant, chemotherapy or chronic corticosteroid use"
If you are not part of the risk-factor group, why subject your unborn baby to the risks (as yet unrecognized by most doctors) of this procedure?
We are rarely, if ever, informed of the true risk of of many procedures because the medical providers discount signs of risk or have not kept up with the latest research. Most women, even if certain pap smear procedure caused their miscarriage, are emotionally not up to the rigors of an uphill legal battle against the cadre of insurance company lawyers who will defend the doctor. (in the legal profession, such lawyers are called insurance company whor*s and no one is allowed to say "insurance company" during the trial) Because of this, the risk is unknown. Unreported equals never happened.
Even if a woman goes to court, before the trial, if it looks like she may win, she is offered a settlement by the doctor's or hospital's insurance company, along with a gag order to keep her from telling anyone about it. Settled cases go silent.
I had an ultrasound as part of a checkup at twenty weeks. I had zero cramping and have never spotted after sex during that or any pregnancy. The ultra-sound showed my baby was healthy and kicking. The nurse practitioner told me I needed a pap smear to complete the exam.
Previously, pap smears had involved the use of a large cotton covered swab (big q-tip). Instead, this practitioner used a new device that looked like a plastic arrow with stiff bristles, pointing up, along the the sides. I visited the bathroom on the way home and noticed that I had begun spotting. I lost the baby the next day. The link was unmistakable and
After this miscarriage, I refused pap smears while pregnant. I have had eight successful pregnancies.
My personal advice to healthy pregnant women: Unless you belong to a high risk group, skip the pap smear until after your baby is born.
According to the MAYO CLINIC:
"Doctors generally recommend repeating Pap testing every 3 years for women ages 21-65. Women age 30 and older can consider Pap testing every 5 years if the procedure is combined with testing for HPV.
If you have certain risk factors, your doctor may recommend more-frequent Pap smears, regardless of your age.
These risk factors include:
-A diagnosis of cervical cancer or a Pap smear that showed precancerous cells
-Exposure to diethylstilbestrol (DES) before birth
-HIV infection
-Weakened immune system due to organ transplant, chemotherapy or chronic corticosteroid use"
If you are not part of the risk-factor group, why subject your unborn baby to the risks (as yet unrecognized by most doctors) of this procedure?
We are rarely, if ever, informed of the true risk of of many procedures because the medical providers discount signs of risk or have not kept up with the latest research. Most women, even if certain pap smear procedure caused their miscarriage, are emotionally not up to the rigors of an uphill legal battle against the cadre of insurance company lawyers who will defend the doctor. (in the legal profession, such lawyers are called insurance company whor*s and no one is allowed to say "insurance company" during the trial) Because of this, the risk is unknown. Unreported equals never happened.
Even if a woman goes to court, before the trial, if it looks like she may win, she is offered a settlement by the doctor's or hospital's insurance company, along with a gag order to keep her from telling anyone about it. Settled cases go silent.
Previously, pap smears had involved the use of a large cotton covered swab (big q-tip). Instead, this practitioner used a new device that looked like a plastic arrow with stiff bristles, pointing up, along the the sides. I visited the bathroom on the way home and noticed that I had begun spotting. I lost the baby the next day. The link was unmistakable and
After this miscarriage, I refused pap smears while pregnant. I have had eight successful pregnancies.
My personal advice to healthy pregnant women: Unless you belong to a high risk group, skip the pap smear until after your baby is born.
According to the MAYO CLINIC:
"Doctors generally recommend repeating Pap testing every 3 years for women ages 21-65. Women age 30 and older can consider Pap testing every 5 years if the procedure is combined with testing for HPV.
If you have certain risk factors, your doctor may recommend more-frequent Pap smears, regardless of your age.
These risk factors include:
-A diagnosis of cervical cancer or a Pap smear that showed precancerous cells
-Exposure to diethylstilbestrol (DES) before birth
-HIV infection
-Weakened immune system due to organ transplant, chemotherapy or chronic corticosteroid use"
If you are not part of the risk-factor group, why subject your unborn baby to the risks (as yet unrecognized by most doctors) of this procedure?
We are rarely, if ever, informed of the true risk of of many procedures because the medical providers discount signs of risk or have not kept up with the latest research. Most women, even if certain pap smear procedure caused their miscarriage, are emotionally not up to the rigors of an uphill legal battle against the cadre of insurance company lawyers who will defend the doctor. (in the legal profession, such lawyers are called insurance company whor*s and no one is allowed to say "insurance company" during the trial) Because of this, the risk is unknown. Unreported equals never happened.
Even if a woman goes to court, before the trial, if it looks like she may win, she is offered a settlement by the doctor's or hospital's insurance company, along with a gag order to keep her from telling anyone about it. Settled cases go silent.
Tuesday we took a home pregnancy test turned pregnant instantly which we knew we were pregnant for about 2-3 weeks. The dr office obviously wanted to confirm so Friday we went and the test turned out negative. I told them I was pregnant had the symptoms colostrum had already started etc. They wanted to do a Pap smear and blood work being ignorant to the fact I agreed. I had no problems prior to this. No cramps no signs of menstral cycle nothing. An hour after the pap I started spotting then Saturday morning full bleed. I went back in on Monday for another blood test and she did another pelvic exam. my levels dropped to a 3. Do not get a pap done!! My husband and I whole heartedly believe this is what cause us to lose our baby
You are out of your mind, I am an anomalie. The reason there is no "correlation" is because the male-dominated medical community has swept this issue under the rug and never bothered to look into it, citing your ignorant reply as the same reason: "the miscarriage was imminent to begin with." What happened to me was the pap triggered a series of events that led to the premature rupture of my membrane and eventual death of my son born at 24 weeks after a 7 week 4 day stay in the hospital. You have said it yourself, there is no correlation because the men in charge never accept responsibility for technically killing women's babies by saying it was likely doomed to begin with.
I myself have tried to find research, and there is none, all I can find is thousands and thousands of women crying out on message boards like this one, and their voices being ignored because some doctor claimed it was not their "safe" and "routine" procedure to blame. They IGNORE they cries of these women instead of looking fully into it and proving insensitive people like yourself with proof there is actually a correlation. Like others on this forum, nothing your ignorant self, nor any "educated" doctor will tell me that can take away my blame of the pap smear and, until they research it, they can't prove the other way either.
I myself have tried to find research, and there is none, all I can find is thousands and thousands of women crying out on message boards like this one, and their voices being ignored because some doctor claimed it was not their "safe" and "routine" procedure to blame. They IGNORE they cries of these women instead of looking fully into it and proving insensitive people like yourself with proof there is actually a correlation. Like others on this forum, nothing your ignorant self, nor any "educated" doctor will tell me that can take away my blame of the pap smear and, until they research it, they can't prove the other way either.
I have had this same thing just happen. I went in for my 8 week check up they did a pap. She said it bled and sounded nervous. Kept asking if i was ok... Well i just had my 12 week ultrasound and found that i have an 8 week fetal demise....
Coincidence??? IDK but if I get pregnant again I wont be getting a pap. This is the first time i had tried in 15 years. Im 36 so its getting to be our last chance....
Coincidence??? IDK but if I get pregnant again I wont be getting a pap. This is the first time i had tried in 15 years. Im 36 so its getting to be our last chance....
Cmon are you serious?! After everything you’re reading you should know not to get one! Protect your baby!
This just happened to me in the 11th of this month. I had a pap smear at my doctor office. Before I left the office I had an ultrasound done which showed my baby with a heart beat and moving. An HR later I was in the emergency room with contractions. I used the restroom and noticed mocus with light bleeding. I
If you state that because it never happened to you, considered yourself blessed instead of disregarding actual experiences, which are in term fact. Maybe the numbers are less, like “only 1 in 100 women miscarry after routine pap during 1st and 2nd trimesters.” But there is a number of us, there is a correlation, and it is heart breaking that some refuse to acknowledge it. Pap at 2, miscarriage at 10, yesterday...
Are you in the medical field?
This just happened to me this week. 4 weeks pregnant, no complications. Doctor performs Pap smear, and I started bleeding That night. The next day, I passed a large tissue and miscarried. I have spoken with nurses and doctors who have told me that Pap smears can harm the baby because it stimulates the cervix and upsets the uterus.
This is STILL happening! It just happened to me.