Hun, you are doin good. The energy thing does last awile, but maybe only a few more days I know every sec feels like forever. What are you trying?? Music helps me alot!!! I drink tons of red bull. I hate to say it other than time and strength if five hour energy won't work. i do believe some comfort meds might help, but only if you can't handle it. If you describe exact prob I'll give the best advice I can on helping exactly that. Again I don't personally like Kratom, but helped soooo much. You have gone sooo long it is almost over!!
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Are you drinking fluids?? You gotta eat!!! I know iv fluids can help. If you have insurance and dn't want them to know tell them you have a stomach flu, they will give you iv fluids, BUT I always want to go to er during wd and don't, but if you can't hold down fluids than maybe go.......okay what about trying lopermide? Not alot like people say to take ten just recommended dose and that might least ease enough of the prob to eat and drink. You need fluids!!!!!!!!!!!
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You poor thing, I know where you are!!! It really should not be much longer if you can make it just a bit longer you will wake up and notice you feel better, and then better and better. Rls-icey hot, baths stomach- get some anti diaria with loperamide being only active ingredient. I actually think hydration is a huge thing for you possibly right now drink gatorade water broth anything, try some candy or something you love to eat. a banana wld be good. Now Kratom is worth research, but you have made it so long without. Distract your mind music or a funny movie. Write on here, read old forums.... And if you do feel that bad and mentally you are ready for an er go!!!!!! Not sure if you want to tell them everyhing, but please drink fluids or get some at the er. Are you drinking at all. If gonna drink energy drinks make sure you are taking in water or juice. Good Luck Hun!!!! You are very strong. b***h at me if it will help. I am here for you and will try to help you to the best of my ability.
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Can anyone suggest where to buy this Kratom?? I'm hearing this for the first time right now & I really wanna try it. Thanks! You guys are really helpful.
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decemberstar- do i relate to the husband whose never had withdrawals just wanting you to snap out of it..ex army and weve been together 23 yrs,married almost 19...it took a knock down drag out..me willing to go..he came around..im determined to kick this. on a 1/4 of a mg. i abstained for as long as i could take it..then gave myself tiny tiny squares..each body is different..please write me personally if i can help you..we can help each other.. names carolyne (email me anytime, i mean it) i know how desperate i was to just talk to someone..to write someone at 3am when i couldnt bare it.. what helped me was i bought immodium ad and robitussin long acting cough pills (body recognizes as opiates but not strong enough to cross the brain barrier) i bought tagament and grapefruit juice..tagament takes the opiate and makes it more and grapefruit does the same..i went from bed ridden wd's to work..with make up on, and early...no joke..im almost 5ft 2 and i weigh about 112 pounds now..gained 6lbs in the past 3 weeks..i plan on jumping off suboxone soon..i just needed a week or two symptom free to gain some strength before i jump off .25 mg.
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Google it, I suggest reading bout it on other forums. What I did was got a sample pack, everyone suggest manng da something like that. Get it powdered. They have it at head shops over priced dnt think can give sources but kratom botanical or something reliable few others if you can not find I will check with a friend, but it did me right and was overnight ed. Now if you do get I would like to jus break down few things bout it that helped me....mostly dosing and stuff, but first step get it on its way!!!!!!! If this is the route you want to take and for many who only used as a tool to get over Paws and stuff it made all the difference. It should NOT cost alot if legit.
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I was not being rude by saying google it. It was what I did to find two good sources but if you read what I wrote you will see I told you everything you need to know within it. Please ask anything about it to me as it saved me, I do know alot about it, and I had such hit and miss I feel can explain it well to someone else. For real it is a good option!!!! Nature gave us natural sub and it is related to coffee......
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Thank you so much. I am totally on it. This local place has the leaves for $20. I should stick w those websites & get powder / pills? It helped you w WD? My biggest problem really now is fatigue & muscle aches. Thanks!!
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OMG, got rid of 90 percent of it if not all. Leaves are good to make a tea with, just ask type... I like tea prefer powder leaf so can jus get it dwn. It's good in like an ensure.....It is amazing for wd and PAWS... you prob don't want sub in your system as it works right on the opiate receptors. That is why strain so important meng da any green Bali, Indo those are ones you want. My wds was HELL(all of them) and I was disgusted to know such an easy solution was soooo hidden and so relieved. You can be sick and still work and be good if you dose right. Doesn't take alot. I have read of people preferring whole leaf than powders and extracts i just have no experience. Did get crushed leaf in a sample pack.
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My whole story is on another forum and my whole wd series of wds. If it weren't for K and the guy who suggested it to me I don't think I would be alive. I can point you to that site cause he is the best person to talk to bout it and there is alot of recovery and support as there is here I'm sure. Honestly I just looked thru old posts to get you what he suggested to me.
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Honestly - you're going to experience discomfort no matter the final dosage before jumping off. Just do it now and get recovery started.
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The fatigue will last a while. For reference -I was on subs for 4 years and benzos for 15. I lost about 14 lbs in rehab. When I got out, just climbing into the car was a huge task. It takes a while. The best advice I can give is to do what a lot of people having been telling you. Force yourself to go downstairs, or play with the kids, or call your sponsor. I found that everything that was easy for me when I was on drugs was not 10x harder. It was all in my head and took me months to get through the mental barrier.
I ate when I didn't want to, exercised when I felt like sleeping, and went to meetings. I'm 9 months clean off of Suboxone and benzos. A lot of times the stories you ready in hear are depressing because there's a lot of people who are going through pretty severe withdrawal. Many times people move on when they start to see the light at the end of the tunnel.
I come back and post because giving back helps me in my recovery.
You can, and will, get better. Take it one day at a time.
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Kratom and Phenibut work for some but know that you can experience withdrawal from both. Don't get me wrong - it can help and at times, it felt to me like ANYTHING was better than the pain i was going through. I would take as little as you can to get through the discomfort.
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Thanks so much for your reply Carolyne...I am Jessica. I would have e-mailed you but the moderator edited your post.
Since I only have those four 2mg strips left I am going to just go as long as I can then take a crumb and then go even longer until the crumbs are gone. I guess that's what I'm going to do. A lot of others are saying just jump and get rid of the ones I have left. What do you think?
I just wish the Drs who prescribe this kind of a drug would tell you the risk. I feel so betrayed. I was already 4 days into my pain pill wds and from what everyone has said I was almost done. The Drs where I went for help assured me that I wouldn't get better without the sub and if I didn't take it I would most likely relapse. There isnt a chance in hell I would relapse after the 4 days of hell I had gone through in wd not to mention all the trouble it brought to my life but I was listening to the advice of a Doctor...I know better now! I have more of a chance relapsing on the damn sub. OMG this sucks. What REALLY sucks is that I was just offered a job as a data entry clerk at the auto auction right down the street from my house. I keep thinking how in the hell am I supposed to hold a job going through all of this!!! Again thanks for your reply. Maybe somehow we can get each others e-mail. It will be good to have someone going through this with me.
decemberstar - Jessica
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