suboxone withdrawal: how long is this going to last...I'm mi

Thanks purrpill and JoJo. I have written this twice. This iPad keeps making me lose screen. My WD are much better today. Only fatique

No more physical WD. Amazing but could only be for now. Who knows? My appetite has not been affected whatsoever which is unlike what I've been hearing here. I eat & drink like normal. 

And these patches are my savior cause the pain has subsided immensely. Should I still get the kratom or do this solo? I really don't need anymore addition in my life, ya know? Maybe if I do a 1/2 cup of tea a day? Lol maybe these meds are making me fatigued? Guanfacine & gabapentin ?  I feel like they make me more dizzy & out of it. Oh and please tell me does immodium assist with anything other than bathroom issues? I'm not having any stomach issues at the time but somehow I remember seeing that it helps w WD. True or not true? 

Thanks guys!!!! Means so much you're here for me. Also I have no kids,just the cutest little dog who hasn't left my side for a moment. 

I feel your pain on the job front. I had to go back to a full time 8-5 job 2 days after i got back from rehab. I was a wreck. It's only by God' s grace that I still have the job.

Imodium has been reported to help with withdrawal. I've never used it but I know others on here have and been successful. Google 'Imodium and withdrawal'.

What is the pain patch you're talking about? I'm not following there.

For me - both Vistaril and Neurontin/Gabapentin made me drowsy. More so the Vistaril because it's an antihistamine.

Natural cures for opiate withdrawal. My story is complicated and I want to give everyone hope. Originally H and pills then yes Subs. My whole nightmare and story is on there.....Kratom got me thru at my lowest point!!!!! I wish I used it longer actually. You all you can do it and kinda easily if you do use K. Just keep your mind in the right place. Know this is no way to live and you will find true happiness as you embrace your sobriety.

Without that forum I would not be here. I had subscribed to this at some point, but never checked it...I received so much help over there it just isn't right for me to not tell you about th option of Kratom. We almost sound preachy there but if you actually read the whole thread you see where it first came in and just the amazing ease it offered people. Ya know we are all just trying to get some relief from our withdrawals that's how we get here. Only we know!!! I along with many other people are with you right now wishing the very best that you are able to dig up that strength and reclaim your life. My roads a bumpy one....I do know where you are though and it is a bad place far from where you and I normally are. You will get thru this!!!!! I don't know what made me come on yesterday, but when I read that desperation bout energy I had to jump in.

Imodium does help a little. You sound so great I am SO Happy!!! I don't know if throwing anything else in is a good idea at all!!! You sound good, but only you know you(like are you okay now, but might possibly go nuts and score drugs later?...that's me). If that is the case having things like generic Imodium and other wd tools on hand might be a good idea. Do not take ten Imodium please. A couple can take the edge off. It's kina hit or miss with it too. I can say I id attribute some sleep in hard wd to it....If you are able to get thru it on your own an it is dif for everyone so alot of horror storys really may not even apply to you. It get's worse everytime and alot has to do with where you are physically and mentally previous drug use.... You may just feel better and better everyday!!!! Huge realistic chance of that for real....

Decemberstar I always have to rewrite my posts...lol. Hate it. How are you today??? What exactly are you feeling? Dina- So glad you doing better wrote above to you both. JoJO- work out of rehab ROUGH!!! Also good job keeping everyone updated on your success. I think it is important to hear that along with just knowing wow all these people feel the same way; but always good to see people on the other end. Also, I think you give good advice.  Well, I'm moving today so will have my computer on in the backround for anyone that wants to talk. Much love to all, YOU ARE NOT ALONE, and sh*t you got this its nothing compared to a happy life.

Jess I think the job will keep your mind off sh*t. I can't work in wd either, but kinda fake it till you make it type thing or only focus on getting clean. Job will prob help though. Also are you just disgusted wit Subs and want to be clean or doing it for another reason? Don't toss the Subs try to wait awhile in between till you absolutely can't take it then take a tiny piece. Also hun, how long was the pill addiction and how long were you on Subs.....Knowing those two things and if you ever quit before will give me a good idea on how long this gnna last for you. If this first time stopping it does take a good two to three weeks but you bounce back quick and you will feel good soon. Excuse me if this was stated already I have not gone far back and read.

In all honesty - i have good days and bad days. Today I thought about how much I wanted to drink and make some of the stress go away. I guess this isn't really the forum/thread for that but I wanted to share. I should go to a meeting but I'm taking my daughters to see the Easter bunny tonight. I guess that's just as good (complete sarcasm).

JoJo [talking to Easter bunny] = - "I know you're here for the kids and all but can I sit on your lap and talk for a while? "

Trust me, me too!!!! That should be fun; it is just as good. Your daughters believing in the Easter bunny them having a good time (I don't have kids) That is EVERYTHING!

I am in the 7th day of suboxone withdrawal(down to 2mg per day). I just wanted to give some suggestions that I have used. There are some natural remedies that can help with anxiety/fatigue, like L-tyrosine helps the foggy brain stuff. Passionflower/valerian root/Kava-Kava helps with sleeping and anxiety. Also, I know most people haven't heard of it, or have heard bad things, non the less Kratom has been an absolute life saver for me so far. I know it may have an addictive quality, since it does affect similar opiate receptors, so if you decide to go this route just remember there may be some withdrawals from it. I have heard they are very mild in comparison, but I really can't say for sure yet. I have work/college and I just cannot sit home and cry all day, which is exactly what was happening before kratom. Kratom also has SSRI properties, anti-depressant, and that is why I started it at first. But the first time I took kratom, it totally killed the withdrawal symptoms and I felt better. Anyway, these are just some suggestions. One more tip, a combo of potassium/magnesium supplements helps muscle cramps tremendously! G.I. symptoms are easily remedied with loperimide/Maalox. Anyone reading this, don't give up. Do you really want to be a 'Sub-Slave' forever? Probably not. My doc. said the threshold for sub withdrawal is 7 days, which I do not agree with completely, I believe it is longer. Good luck to everyone and I hope I helped.

Hey I've been trying to write back here so many times. This iPad or something is wrong. I have so much to say too. Today day 7/8.. The WD came back pretty hard this afternoon. Is this normal for it to come & go? I had so much energy for like 6 hrs straight this morning & that was amazing for me cause 5-10 minutes of walking have usually wiped me out. I may try kratom, not sure. It's a leave. That's all they have here. I'll make  tea or something. Not sure because I really wanna kick this suboxone and don't need to be addicted to something else. I am so scared to go back to work on Monday. I'm usually the machine there...meaning suboxone made me the energize bunny. Now I'll be sitting w a heating pad and barely mobile. Hopefully I'll have more energy. I'm def gonna try those other natural remedies suggested above so thank you for that. I'm gonna read thru all previous posts. I'm sure it will be also helpful. Jess, all the best of luck to you. I wish I hadadvice for you. I'm still learning & detoxing. Not easy & def depends how long your dependancy is/was. That I know. Right guys? I'm 3 years unable to function without suboxone & this is the HARDEST thing I've ever done. The support here is so important to me too.  You guys really understand. So thank you!! 

And the patches I am referring to are Salonpas heat patches. Back, legs like 6on me at all times. Huge help,, with my electic blanket too. Hot showers are amazing. Just wrapping my body in heat has been helpful. I'm drinking pedialyte 2-3 Large bottles a day. Trying to stay hydrated. Good luck w whoevers doing this & thank you for those who come here to help. You're awesome people!

Dina unfortunately it is normal.....lets hope it comes in waves where you have points that you do feel good like yesterday Really the real detox starts after 5 days I notice and always takes about two weeks. Sub is a hard wd. If this is your first time stopping you have a higher chance of feeling good sooner. Also keep in mind people that are in the hospital on say morephene when they get out dope sick and they are not an addict they think it is just the flu. WE know jus a little piece will end this and that is alot of the problem, Also hearing people say they went six months and still feel bad NOT HELPFULL. Dina I can confidently say if you continue just not using you will feel better soon. WORK might be good to just go and put on a poker face. I don't think going back to work will be easier tom or say in a few more days.....I didn't work awhile though..lol. I also did not find Kratom appealing or addictive I guess it is but we were on some potent sh*t. I'M SO GLAD YOU ARE DRINKING!!!!!!!!!! Just keep flushing that garbage out your body and if things suck listen to a good song i know sounds stupid music helped me like it was a lifeline. D, when you get thru this you are gonna realize how dumbed up subs made you without even realizing, You will actually wake up feeling great. Trust me I'm not all Subs are horrible even(they are but if it stops people from copping sh*t on the street putting needles in thm than hell yeah take the sub), But you dear do NOT need THAT GARBAGE. You sound good. Tell work you have the flu even if you go in tom. Don't be scared of anything except opiates. Basically you have realistically a few more days to a week tops of ups and downs. This may be wrong Tom you could wake up and be out. That Dina compared to the rest of your life living like a junkie prisoner. The decision is so easy. you are very STRONG please stay STRONG!!!!!!!! What kind of music do you like? If there were a theme song for you now what would it be?

I was on suboxone for a year and 8 months. It was a true blessing from GOD in disguise!!! One day, I sat there taking a picture at the Methadone/Suboxone in Myrtle Beach,SC. Little did I know as I took the picture, as i waited in the front waiting to dose, this was my last day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I got told I had to bring all my medications, in. I have Adult ADHD, Anxiety (20 years), and yes my family doctor prescribed me ADHD medication and a clonazepam. he also knew when, 5 years ago I was on methadone (hell to get off), he had no issues with me taking the 3 medications. Lucky, I got him, he worked in a methadone clinic while attending medical school.

SO, at the clinic, last day back to that! They said, you forgot your pill count, bring the bottles in. Well, I had given someone and over took due to not realizing, I was abusing them, the ADHD Medication that is, and I was sharing them with a friend. Very stupid. It was the best thing in the world. I had suboxone 42 mg saved from my take home medication. I was a phase 3. The reason I saved them your asking? I was determined to get off the junk! The Doctor at the clinic, was of no help. They want you on it, not off. I'ts $$$$$$$$$! To them, I was another junkie given number 900.

God gave me strength, my personal relationship with Jesus Christ, sooooo, helped me get off the abuse wagon on the ADHD medication, I'm proud to say, I'm no longer abusing them. I see what and how I was acting overtaking, sharing them, and when I didn't have ADHD medication, my concentration was way off. I take them as needed/prescribed now.

I had my last suboxone, I went to my family Doctor, he gave me Clonidine 0.2 mg and Flexeril 10 mg 3 x a day for leg spasms from the withdrawal. The medication helped, but, I had bad withdrawals, no sleep, always running to the bathroom, not wanting to eat, headaches, spasms in arms and legs. I laid in bed a week, then made myself get up, a months later I got a job, so the medication helped get me through, I'm 3 months into being of nasty suboxone, I'm more awake, and I dream again, it stopped me from remembering them that is.

I know wait until I can get off these, I'm down to Flexeril 10 mg twice a day, and 0,1 Clonidine a day!!! I still have that warm tingle feeling, pins and needles at time but its much better, I can function. I owe Jesus Christ, so much, he pulled em through yet another, of many storms.

I pray for anyone whom needs it, I'm on Facebook (who isn't), or email me anytime to talk, 

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