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No disrespect to how you're feeling but saying that someone who has been on subs for 3 months has thrown their life away is probably the most idiotic thing I've ever heard. The addicts in us want immediate gratification and to feel better immediately after we stop druggin. Sure - subs take a while. A lot of meds stay with you a while. Life is a journey - not a destination. It will get better.
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my man.. I was on 8mg of suboxone for 7 years. I went "cold Turkey" off of 99mg of Methadone and off of subs. they're both bad!! Bro.. it took a month to start feeling good. not 100% but good nontheless. it's been 5 months now and I feel FREAKING alive!!! You don't need that sh*t! you are stronger than you know!! go through the pain so you never go back!!! it's worth it!! The research I've done about Suboxone is that it's sooooo bad for you!! it will cause permanent damage!! Be strong!! if you want support I'd e happy to help..
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Yae to JoJo and Boogiefoote, good words and advise with life to them.
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r u kidding me? Get off this sight. This is for support, not failures.

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r u kidding me? Get off this sight. This is for support, not failures.
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Am at the 8 month mark and I nearly put a bullet to my head. The suboxone has destroyed me completely and I dont believe it will ever get better.. People have to know the TRUTH!

I really feel for those who have taken sub longer then 2 weeks. It occupies some receptors which produce endorphins, once that passes your messed up.
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You are NOT feeling well or else you would not be searching for suboxone forums. You can admit the truth rather then living in a fantasy world. Permanent damage has already been done.. My own doctor said it PERMANENTLY damages the brain where you will ALWAYS be depressed all your life.

8mg for 7 years? hate to say this but I dont believe you will ever recover. You need to go the doctor and get some testes done , if you feel depressed you may need permanent medications, but even they do not work.. I feel bad for you.
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It has been 39 days since i have quit. Staying possitive has proven to be a huge challenge as well as sleeping. I get 3-4 hours a night of stait sleep then doze in and out of sleep until i decide to give up trying. I lay staring at the ceiling or back of my eyelids more than actually sleeping. I think this is also affecting the way i think. I cant focus on anything or carry on a conversation without drawing a blank. It is like i have fried my brain simular to that fried egg commercial. You know "this is your brain and this is your brain on drugs." I am still dragging myself around to get things done, even though i dont want to do anything. But if i dont then i am beating myself up for not doing it. I am starting to have good days, at least more than i did in the first 3-4 weeks. I just pray that i get more lively.
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Are you effing kidding me? Honestly - please don't ever post again. The fantasy world is called 'hope'. Your doctor is an id**t. Anybody who tells you that 'you'll never be right' and that you'll be stuck in a depression for eternity knows nothing about recovery or how addiction works. I sincerely hope you find some help and something to cling on to.

We do recover -

When at the end of the road we find that we can no longer function as a human being, either with or without drugs, we all face the same dilemma. What is there left to do? There seems to be this alternative: either go on as best we can to the bitter ends—jails, institutions or death—or find a new way to live. In years gone by, very few addicts ever had this last choice.Those who are addicted today are more fortunate. For the first time in man’s entire history, a simple way has been proving itself in the lives of many addicts. It is available to us all. This isa simple spiritual—not religious—program, known as Narcotics Anonymous.
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But there is talk of sub killing off your receptors to the point of no return, and how it is inhumanely possible to function in deep depression and mental anguish (from sub withdrawals) for 6 months to a year, hence why people do not stay clean after quitting subs or are suicidal..
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But there is talk of sub killing off your receptors to the point of no return, and how it is inhumanely possible to function in deep depression and mental anguish (from sub withdrawals) for 6 months to a year, hence why people do not stay clean after quitting subs or are suicidal..

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This is so depressing!  I stopped Subs probably three days ago and have been tapering off for months!  My joints are killing me, I am taking tons of ibuprofin to ease the joint pain.  I was taking 1mg a day for weeks.  Can this pain be from WD?  If so, I cannot imagine what some of you are going thru.  This is hell.

If I can offer any help, is Gabapentin has been shown to help ease a little bit of the suffering.  It has taken the edge off the skin crawling which was really bothering me the most.

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Hellooooo fellow drug addicts! I'm a recovering suboxone and benzo user. As well as other things but we won't get into that. So I'm on day 23 of being completely clean and sober from all mind altering substances. I feel pretty damn good. My sleep patterns are stabilizing. I can feel my mood stabilizing. I read a post on here saying it causes permanent brain damage and you'll be depressed forever? Please don't believe that sh*t. Yes physical withdrawals will last longer with suboxone due to half life but it is bearable. My physical withdrawal lasted about 10-12 days and I was using suboxone for 3 years and jumped off at 4 mgs. I still have urges to use and have less and less everyday. But recovery is not something you get. It's something you do. You need to get active and keep your mind busy. You can't smoke weed. You can't drink alcohol. This will just prolong your brains healing. Get a gym membership to start helping your brain build natural endorphins because all of this using has caused nerve damage to our brains and unlike a cut in which heals in about 5 days nerve damage can take years to fully heal. That may sound scary but it does not mean your life will be miserable! You will have your ups and downs and your brains gonna tell you you need drugs because addiction is in the same part of the brain as survival. So your brain will try and trick you and make you think you need this sh*t to survive. But we don't! As time passes our brains will slowly make drugs less and less of a priority. Also..... I attend meetings atleast 5 times a week to keep my sobriety on my mind, because once we get complacent that's when a. Lot of us will resort to some sort of mind altering substance. Abstinence from all drugs is key! Hang in there guys. I'm only 23. And I've already sworn off everything including alcohol. Which I struggled with accepting but f**k it you don't need alcohol to be happy. Or pills. Of marijuana. Overrated. Good luck and keep your heads straight. I'm certainly going to try my best to do so.
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i too was on subs for @ 6 mo.21 mgs.i came down to 6 mg. abrubtly. suffered @ a week . went back to 4mgs. then tappered for @ two mo. went all the way down to 8th.mg. then quit. i found no problems coming off that way. just know that you wernt born this way so no way are you going to stay this way. it WILL pass.

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Hi buddy i too took my last bit ,6 days ago obviously if it's worked,you shouldn't feel any cravings,the worst part for me was not being able to eat and knowing the damage i'm doing,no sleep ,no nutrition.And the worst of all in my opinion,the wide awake feeling and your legs are doing a marathon,and your head is bouncing off the pillow your'e so tired but keep getting woken up by legs,The best way(i have done this three times now)is to go down every 4 days but the longer process;break up your tablet into tiny little pieces,getting smaller every time,get to about 0.2 then just 5days of no sleep and that's it,finished..all over,can i ask what you got down to?Ricky
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