Second day off 8mg Subutex and doing Valium and i'm wondering when is the hell going to rain down, i have had no symtoms of withdraw.... Been on Su since October and had a Nut Job Doctor that kicked me off because of Pot. The Sututex helped change every thing in my life for the better and i am going to try to get through this. My Question is how long does it take to get the Subutex out of the body befor you start the withdraw????
It took me 4 days to feel any major w/d the first time I stopped subutex. I believe there is a lot of variation between people which doesn't help you I know. I take it that what you really want to know is if you are home free after 2 days or are you about to get hit with the black plague? I think if
you feel ok after 2 days from 8mg cold turkey then you haven't start w/d yet so cancel the dancing girls and go and buy some yogurt as solid food will cut you in two in a few days.
I don't want to scare you though. Fear of w/d kept me on subutex a year longer than I wanted. When I went through it, it wasn't nearly as bad as I had been expecting. Definitely not as bad as oxy w/d. I jumped off at 4 mg. I had been trying to taper but it was like death by a thousand cuts for me. I got sick of always feeling like I was in w/d. I never could taper. As soon as I had any anxiety which was often, I took more than I had planned to.
It's great that doctors talk about slow tapers but for a lot of us, if we had that kind of dicipline, we wouldnt be on this stuff to begin with. Doctors know so little about this stuff. Most seem like they got their info from the back of a corn flakes packet.
One thing I would say, I noticed you talking about benzos to get through w/d, I thought the same. I was always looking for the next pill to ease the effect of the last. I planned to sleep through w/d and wake up when it was all done. That never worked and actually made it all a lot more painful. I don't know why, but the easiest w/d I ever had are when I have been looking after myself, taking no other meds or alcohol and going to the gym to get fit before going through it.
Alsp.as soon as I ram out of Valium or Xanax, the rebound anxiety made it much harder to stay clean. Do yourself a favor and be good to yourSelf. Plus remember, however strong you feel before, that dicipline goes out the window when you are depressed and hurting. As much as I hated being on subutex, I always relapsed when I tried to stop too quickly.btw, to finish off, w/d from subs lasted about 2 weeks for me. Only 2 days were really painful but the depression that followed was the longest lasting part and much harder to deal with thn a sore back. Or achy joints. Get heLp and don't rely on will power alone. If needed find a new doctor and get more subs. As awful as they are, they are still much safer than Oxys or junk.
Can anyone please tell me a doctor in New York that will prescribe me subutex??!! I'm literally in desperate need of it. I've been using dope for the past 5 years, have tried to get off of it with suboxone and just can't bring myself to be sick enough to take it.. I just can't take the withdrawals. The few times I have brought myself to take the suboxone it didn't work and made me feel ten times worse.. Probably because my tolerance is soooo high (about 3-4 bundles a day sometimes). I really want to get clean and need the subutex desperately to do so. Can anyone please help me. If you don't feel comfortable replying here you can email me at
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Hey all, today was my last day of taking subutex.. my doctor wanted me to go cold turkey down from 6 mg./day, but instead I took the script and after getting used to 6mg/day, I went down to 4 mg. day. That 2mg drop was just as bad as the 6 mg drops each month that he's had me on. So, I didn't bother suffering through the 4 to 2 mg drop.. I figured it'd just rob me of any kind of break before I had to go cold turkey. I went on 4mg/day until I ran out.. today I took my last pill, so just 2 mg. today. The doc wanted me to quit well before now, but I wanted to give myself a little more time, maybe a bit of a respite, as this has just been relentless. I was on 18 mg. day.. then down to 12mg/day, then down to 6 mg/day (all about a month on each dosage).. then I took myself down to 4 mg./day for about the past three weeks. Today I had 2 mg. and I'm all out. I am definitely alternating between sweats and chills.. I know this isn't going to be fun. I have a friend, though, who (without a doctor's care) went cold turkey after taking at least 6-8/day for several months. She'd been heavily addicted to this another time before and had gotten off. Anyway, she's now on day 7 of cold turkey straight off of norco.. that is astounding to me! I figure if she can do that, I *hope* I can get through this (I've been under the supervision of a pain specialist who initially switched me from high doses of norco (which I was on for pain, but became dependent on..to the point where it was causing more pain that I'd be feeling without it) to subutex.) I've worried about her and have kept in touch every day.. so far, she seems to be hanging in there. I can't imagine.. I tried to go off of norco on my own once and it was an utter nightmare that ended with me screaming my head off/sobbing my heart out, and being taken to the ER (which was absolutely NO help to me, unfortunately :( ) I do wonder how long this is going to last.. how bad it will be..but I know that every system is so different. My pain doc actually was going to take me down from 9 2mg. pills/day to 3 2mg. pills/day at one point, but finally I protested. I guess he thought I could do that?? Anyway, I just can't wait for this to be over with. Subutex did nothing for me except to calm withdrawals.. didn't seem to help much at all with any pain, esp. toward the end. I'm hoping for the best.. I got pretty used to what the doc seemed to think a very tiny dose, so I'm hoping it won't be worse than other drops. Thanks for the insights! Tracy
I don't know if your still around but you said something that affected me profoundly here in southern California. just wanted to say thanks.
lonely smackhead still around?
you still around and how many other posts did you write
amen brother same here
I am a legit chronic pain patient and let me tell you this has been a vicious cycle for me......pain meds, subutex, ativan, alchohol.......and back again.......here is the deal.......I was able to get off 40-50 Norcos per day, then on Subutex and Klonopin, then on Alcohol, and off everything EXCEPT alcohol which is still hard on you and deadly - BUT!! Once I detoxed at a hospital off Aloohol on their program I was fine. I feel that Alcohol was my best and last stop.......however to do anything on your own is hard and I am in the cycle now...at the transition from Subutex to Alcohol.......trying to cycle down......it is painful and testing my will. If I have to - I will go to a Hospital Detox for the Alcohol.
This stuff has ruined my life twice.....and this is the last time. Stay close to GOD and Pray daily from the heart.......I will pray for all of you.
Disclaimer: I am NOT telling you to do what I do.....only trying to help.
Could you contact me with more info on the T-3 and Cortisol drugs? I'm trying to get off subutex!
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I'm EXTREMELY SERIOUS about quitting this sh*t!
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I was taking 8mg subutex a day, I decided to jus jump right off of it. didnt wein myself off or anything. Its rough im on day 14 today and I still feel like sh*t. Low energy is the biggest part. Jus stay positive. Try working out, it helps alot. I was told this could take 20 days. hope they r right and only have 6 days left of this rollercoaster
I tapered down form 100ml of methadone to 35ml with no prob the went on 16mg sub about a year ago im now 29 and I've been on the script since 21 (doesn't feel that long) I've just asked my key worker to drop me down 2mg per month untill im on 8mg im really scared truth be told dont no how im gonna cope when I take the leap completly off im very dependant on the mood lift it gives me which may be a plecebo dont know god bless you guys and hope you conker this evil affliction wish I could grab these youngsters just starting out tooting smack by the shoulders and just shake them and show them the misery and pain,loss they face
I have been on subutex for almost 6 months. My highest dose was 12mgs and I got down to 2mgs for that is the lowest dosage going to a clinic will offer. I was told that since its not scored they could not drop to 1mgs. That's what happens when you have to go to a clinic everyday. Needless to say I felt crappy on 2mgs I went up to 6mgs for about 2 weeks and got sick and tired of this drug controlling my life. Although it did control all cravings from my previous opiate addiction, the subutex was still controlling my life and I had enough! With all the research I have done concerning withdrawals I came across the herbal plant kratom. All I can say is using the kratom has helped me to control the horrible withdrawals from the subutex. I have now been 11 days free from the subs grip it had over me and I can thank kratom for that. I know there are so many others suffering from this horrible opiate addiction (disease)but I am here to tell you that there is hope and if you are determined to be free from this, it is totally doable. If anyone has any questions just let me know. Thanks for taking the time to read this.