No it wouldn't. you just don't understand i'm sorry. you can continue to look ignorant that's fine.
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I actually did it that way because I had someone I trusted to distribute the meds and it worked amazingly. I tried to get off BUPE before and I couldn't make it. This was the best route for me.
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I tried this but failed miserably. Want so much to get off the subs. Had a major infection and could not get any pain relief because of the subs
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It makes so much sense to me, I’ve been on subs for years. Long enough to get my mind in the right place. I think this is great for someone who is ready to quit Suboxone but the harsh withdrawal from Suboxone is not very pleasant. This makes so much sense but ai honestly think I could do the opiate withdrawal cold turkey over the many attempts off subs would be so much easier
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This is asinine. 100 imodium in a day. Your body is withdrawing. Your opiate receptors take time to heal and I am confident that immodium at a normal dose will do as good as 100. Detox is hell. There's no miracle cure. WD is the easy part. The crippling depression is my nemesis for recovery. Detox with muscle relaxers for pain and sleep, xanax for restlessness and comfort. Weed is necessary for obvious reasons. Don't torture yourself by depriving you're self of other drugs to get through WD. My detox plan is anything but opiates. As for detoxing from suboxone. I reccomend gabapentin for pain
800mgs helps me but 1400 helps a lot with Anxiety's. Smoke a lot of weed. Its healing. You are looking at about a month of minor wds. You need to sleep as much as possible. I would ask a doctor for clonidine for sleeping. I take
.2 mg of clonidine, 4mg xanax with a joint to get rrstfull sleep. Kava helps a lot with recovering. It helps with a sense of well being, energy,depression, and anxiety. I would ask your doctor for a script of gabapentin,clonidine, and ambien or strong sedative. wouldn't count on doc writing you benzos if your an addict. But I would get some. Time will heal. Take what's you need to feel comfortable and sleep.
Immodium is not worth your money and I got this feeling 109 imodiums may harm you're stomach or occupy you're time to swallow them all.
800mgs helps me but 1400 helps a lot with Anxiety's. Smoke a lot of weed. Its healing. You are looking at about a month of minor wds. You need to sleep as much as possible. I would ask a doctor for clonidine for sleeping. I take
.2 mg of clonidine, 4mg xanax with a joint to get rrstfull sleep. Kava helps a lot with recovering. It helps with a sense of well being, energy,depression, and anxiety. I would ask your doctor for a script of gabapentin,clonidine, and ambien or strong sedative. wouldn't count on doc writing you benzos if your an addict. But I would get some. Time will heal. Take what's you need to feel comfortable and sleep.
Immodium is not worth your money and I got this feeling 109 imodiums may harm you're stomach or occupy you're time to swallow them all.
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Everyone is different. I know that, and I believe it, but here is what I am doing.
I have an upcoming surgery, so I’m kind of forced to move things along, but I think it’s time anyways.
Coming home from, “the hospital”, I would take one or two 8mg strips per day for the first few weeks. Then I realized I really only needed one strip, or I would burn through my supply that I got each month.
The budgeting started there.
I took the 8mg strips for over a year, almost a year and a half and then started cutting it down. I though I was only on them for 2 years, but thinking back and how I cut down, it could have been closer to 3.
I would cut the strips up into 2 (cutting the other strip in half and then cutting one of the half in half again basically taking ¾ strip, and then cutting down to ½ strip, then cutting them in 4 (taking 1 piece before cutting it down even more), then 8, 16, and eventually 32 pieces. I’m not saying to only take on little piece, you may have to take a few little pieces until you can cut those pieces down, but it seems a lot easier taking a wee little piece away each week than worrying about the numbers. You know that you're taking less and less, but you're doing it in a way that you really don't notice it that much. That eventually got me down to .25 per day. I then asked for 2mg strips instead of 8mg. I’m here to tell ya, cutting the strips into 32 pieces isn’t easy, and I don’t think you can get any smaller, so converting to the 2mg strips made things easier. The rub is that mentally you think you’re taking more, but you’re not. You’re cutting the 2mg strips into 8 pieces. Which is .25, the exact same amount you were taking when the 8mg strips were cut up into 32 pieces. They’re just bigger looking. I then did ¾ of the .25 and I eventually went down to .125mg which is a 2mg strip cut up into 16 pieces.
I would split it up when I could, maybe cut the .125 in half and take half at 4/5pm and the other an hour before bed. I tried to do that when I could, but some of the squares are so small that I just had to take it an hour before bed. I couldn't cut it up further, not physically possible for me.
I’m on day 3 of letting go at .125mg, and I’m not feeling a lot of ill effects yet. A little restless, but I’m honestly wondering if that’s just me knowing that I’m coming off it and anticipating the detox. I know it’s a small amount, but it’s still supposed to be 20 times stronger than morphine, without the fun parts. To say it's nothing would be naive, or at least wishful thinking in my case.
I have stomach and sleep problems, along with restless legs. I have Odansetron for nausea, Ropinirole for restless legs (It actually works. It’s actually a Parkinson’s medicine, but works for kicking legs too.), and Seroquel for sleep.
I’m by no means free of this junk, but I really feel confident this time. More than any other time in my life with the pills or the subs. The fact that I’m on day 3 and not freaking out is a great sign to me, but I know I’m not out of the woods just yet. I know some might say that .125mg is nothing, and it is, but if you’re the one coming off of the stuff, then it’s something. If it was that easy, we’d all be off of this c**p long ago.
By the way, saw another thread and I did end up with false teeth up top, $3k after pulling and false teeth. All my back bottoms are gone as well. I do have the bottom fronts, but two more have to come out. This stuff is hell on your teeth. I never knew that. I thought it was just me and my lack of care.
I have an upcoming surgery, so I’m kind of forced to move things along, but I think it’s time anyways.
Coming home from, “the hospital”, I would take one or two 8mg strips per day for the first few weeks. Then I realized I really only needed one strip, or I would burn through my supply that I got each month.
The budgeting started there.
I took the 8mg strips for over a year, almost a year and a half and then started cutting it down. I though I was only on them for 2 years, but thinking back and how I cut down, it could have been closer to 3.
I would cut the strips up into 2 (cutting the other strip in half and then cutting one of the half in half again basically taking ¾ strip, and then cutting down to ½ strip, then cutting them in 4 (taking 1 piece before cutting it down even more), then 8, 16, and eventually 32 pieces. I’m not saying to only take on little piece, you may have to take a few little pieces until you can cut those pieces down, but it seems a lot easier taking a wee little piece away each week than worrying about the numbers. You know that you're taking less and less, but you're doing it in a way that you really don't notice it that much. That eventually got me down to .25 per day. I then asked for 2mg strips instead of 8mg. I’m here to tell ya, cutting the strips into 32 pieces isn’t easy, and I don’t think you can get any smaller, so converting to the 2mg strips made things easier. The rub is that mentally you think you’re taking more, but you’re not. You’re cutting the 2mg strips into 8 pieces. Which is .25, the exact same amount you were taking when the 8mg strips were cut up into 32 pieces. They’re just bigger looking. I then did ¾ of the .25 and I eventually went down to .125mg which is a 2mg strip cut up into 16 pieces.
I would split it up when I could, maybe cut the .125 in half and take half at 4/5pm and the other an hour before bed. I tried to do that when I could, but some of the squares are so small that I just had to take it an hour before bed. I couldn't cut it up further, not physically possible for me.
I’m on day 3 of letting go at .125mg, and I’m not feeling a lot of ill effects yet. A little restless, but I’m honestly wondering if that’s just me knowing that I’m coming off it and anticipating the detox. I know it’s a small amount, but it’s still supposed to be 20 times stronger than morphine, without the fun parts. To say it's nothing would be naive, or at least wishful thinking in my case.
I have stomach and sleep problems, along with restless legs. I have Odansetron for nausea, Ropinirole for restless legs (It actually works. It’s actually a Parkinson’s medicine, but works for kicking legs too.), and Seroquel for sleep.
I’m by no means free of this junk, but I really feel confident this time. More than any other time in my life with the pills or the subs. The fact that I’m on day 3 and not freaking out is a great sign to me, but I know I’m not out of the woods just yet. I know some might say that .125mg is nothing, and it is, but if you’re the one coming off of the stuff, then it’s something. If it was that easy, we’d all be off of this c**p long ago.
By the way, saw another thread and I did end up with false teeth up top, $3k after pulling and false teeth. All my back bottoms are gone as well. I do have the bottom fronts, but two more have to come out. This stuff is hell on your teeth. I never knew that. I thought it was just me and my lack of care.
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Day 5 and things are going extremely well. I can sleep, which is amazing. I thought I wouldn't be able to. I honestly thought I would be taking 10 hot baths per day by now. There's some nausea, but I think it's the cancer more than the subs. Here is something really odd. Normally when you detox, you get diarrhea (I know, gross, but it's true). My body went the other direction on that one. That's how I know I'm not in full detox. I went through detox many times when I was on the pills and of course ran out before my refill date. I'm guessing there are a few who are familiar with that roller coaster ride, so far, this is nothing like that. I really think the key is whittling down to .125mg and then jumping off the train.
Don't mean to be a pain, but figured I'd post my experiences during this time period.
Don't mean to be a pain, but figured I'd post my experiences during this time period.
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Big A187464: Trying to get off of Suboxone (myself, without telling or letting my doctor know) has been the worst hell on earth I have ever physically and mentally experienced! I have 4 small children and am in school. I want to get back to “me” and would try it your way but do have access to pills to help, so I feel trapped, either take suboxone or suffer and in turn my family suffers. It’s horrible and that’s an understatement. In all of my 10+ years of substance abuse I NEVER went through this, ever, nothing even close. So what do I do?! Please help!!
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They are actually studying this exact procedure in japan,Sweden ,and canada it can work you just need someone to help you monitor your intake i should know . I a m a 10 year vet of Su be it's the worst withdrawal .now considered
What is being said make sure you have someone administer your low dose of opiates everyday and you do not do it for 2 months 1 month a nd the brain wi L adjust i bought 200 perks had my wife being m e 12 the first day 12 seconds d at 12 for third day the n i tapered off I'm free from this he'll whole but don't do it till you can taper off subs to 2 mg a day then 1.5 mg a dY good luck k
What is being said make sure you have someone administer your low dose of opiates everyday and you do not do it for 2 months 1 month a nd the brain wi L adjust i bought 200 perks had my wife being m e 12 the first day 12 seconds d at 12 for third day the n i tapered off I'm free from this he'll whole but don't do it till you can taper off subs to 2 mg a day then 1.5 mg a dY good luck k
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Methadone was first synthesized in Germany at the laboratories of IG Farben, a large pharmaceutical company. It is thought that this effort was part of Hitler’s attempt to be independent from the influence of other countries. Hitler died in 1945 so he didn't invent in 1950 he might have put in the works but didn't invent it
Methadone was first synthesized in Germany at the laboratories of IG Farben, a large pharmaceutical company. It is thought that this effort was part of Hitler’s attempt to be independent from the influence of other countries. Hitler died in 1945 so he didn't invent in 1950 he might have put in the works but didn't invent it
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Yep suboxone is hell, and been trying to find some pills to wean off the subs cuz it's way easier to get off pills, and makes sense after months of two of pills very little 1 time day dose of subs for week and done, exactly been my plan, hard part is finding the pills. Thanks man confirms I was thinking right
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