Using Vicodin to ease suboxone withdrawals

I'm on day 4 of complete cold turkey from subs. I'm trying so hard to stay strong. No one speaks of prayer here. I'm asking for your prayers that I can continue to better health and not use Vicodin again. I started subs 2 films a day for the past 1 year and 9 months. I was forced to quit because I lost my medical plan. It's about $1000 a month out of pocket. I had no idea what I was getting into as the doctors don't offer any help to get off subs. They say wean but I never wanted too, I liked being on subs thinking it was better than Vicodin right? Wrong. I basically traded one drug for another just one was legitimately given to me. Anyway, I will keep a journal and try to communicate my daily journey with being clean from subs. The local health food store sold me something called "Addiction Withdrawl" supplements. No one really has sound advice except actual users like us. Let's continue to support one another by always discouraging drug use and stay natural. Smoke weed I guess. I'm probably going to have 2 shots of something tonight to help with the RLS. Last night I could not sleep. I have no appetite and feel horrible. Stay blessed! Aloha!

How long have you been off the subs? Are you taking any supplements? I'd appreciate any positive advice thank you!

Withdrawal from vicodin is nothing compared to methadone, oxy or even sub. I have no willpower but if I had to choose between any of those, I'd choose vicodin withdrawal

My first time posting ever, I was taking norco 10s for a little over 2 years, then started subs, then went back to norcos then subs then norcos, I played the ping pong game for over a year. I learned that Drs don't know what they are talking about. I was able to take subs as early as 8-12 hours after popping 10-20 norcos. The more I went back and fourth the faster and faster I could switch from one to another. The past year I would take painkillers about 4 days out of each then then hop back on subs. I got sick of it all, was harder to get the stuff (either one) a week ago i said screw and went cold turkey. Did a fast taper off subs, 24 hours after my last 4mg I I tossed back 10 painkillers. I for some reason thought that maybe my body would get confused and I wouldn't have a full WD from either drug. First 3 days were not bad, took up to 6 Imodium at a time as needed, slept but made myself get up and hop in the car to drive for a couple hours in the middle of each night and listen to motivating music and think about how amazing life will be. I have been through WD a day here or a day there the past few years. This past week has been so damn easy! Day 4 I started taking my adderall again, I felt 100% but I think I'm going to cut the adderall back out cause the past few days I've been kinda ehh, just restless, no sleep, not a ton of energy. I'm also taking the vitamin "L-Thyrosine" up to 3 times a day (helps boost dopamine. I would rather have less severe for longer time than hell for 3 days. When you feel like hell thats when the brain wants the drugs, when you just feel "meh" it's bearable, I have anxiety issues but I have my whole life. My anxiety is very bad now, but life is a b***h and it's time to suck it up and move forward. Ive been so positive through this whole thing, been laying around really planning on how I can quit my job and start a business stuff like that. I have kept my head away from the poor me and focused on the "this is my time, I'm finally going to go get the life I want", like I said before I'm a week sober from all that c**p, I'm not even going to debate weather I should take a half a pill to ease the pain. The fear of resetting the clock is enough to stop me from going back. Oh and every time I start drinking in attempt to sleep, I feel worse. So I stopped all that too. There is a lot of beauty in pain, get to hurting now, if you can get through all this BS you can take on anything. Right now I have the chills I'm hyper focused (adderall) I work swing shift so I don't have a sleep pattern. I'll lay around during the day, go out and get sh*t done at night (better on my anxiety that way) my advice to anyone, just pick a plan and jump, if this process was really easy, everyone would go back. Let what ever pain you feel be the result of years of screwing up. 3plus years of BS, drugs and hell, I'll gladly feel a little off for even up to a couple months. Not a bad trade! Sorry that this post was all over the place, I have been inspired sooooooooo much this past week (my body got a giant rush as I typed that :)) see thinking positive really does help, I thought maybe if I rambler I might end up helping 1 person. I spent over a year fearing all this, I wasted a year, cuz this ain't sh*t, time for me to go for a drive. We got in this position cuz we are babies and needed to numb pain, start forcing the opposite, it's the only way to change. God bless you all. The world is yours! Life is great! (More rush and chills as I typed that ;) this will not be easy, but I've done some impossible things while on drugs, and seeing how clear my head is now..... damn watch out world! My only focus is on the person I will be tomorrow. Make a plan taper down and JUMP, you will end up doing fine. Think about some things you have always wanted to do, reasearch those things, make a plan on how to get it. Think about tomorrow not today. Happiness is a journey not a destination.

I know this was a year or so ago but so hoping to hear how you are now. I'm down to .25 itwice a day and have 15 Vics. If they really don't do anything I'm not sure how they'll help. I never abused, I was prescribed and got physically dependent. Now I get epifutals for my neck injury and I'm pretty much pain free. So I'm down to these teeny little .25 triangles of sub and they feel like full 2mg films. It's so weird how much difference these little things make. I want to wake up and feel normal!! Can you tell me how you did it? As for the comment above, I've had some bad things happen and I don't want drugs to numb me. That's not my issue. This is purely physical and I didn't come this far to start using drugs to feel better. Plus I told my doctor how dependent Vicodin made me and said Ii never want it unless I have a surgery. I take Duexis and it's perfect t. It's 800 mg of innuprofen with mylanta (don't know how many mgs of mylanta) but it's great for pain. Last step - get off of this last .5 of sub a day. All it does is keep me from feeling like a shaky exhausted mess with an elephant on my chest. Can someone who's done this before tell me how they did it? Please no lectures from the holier than thou guy above. As he said, I've already made up my mind - and I've never abused a drug or a drink in my life so unless you know a person and their situation, maybe don't say anything.

W/d from Vicodin is hell but w/d from suboxon is much worse and lasts much longer. I have been through both.

I TOTALLY AGREE sub withdrawals are worse than any opiate withdrawal I've ever experienced. Three wks off sub's still in withdrawal and only had been on 2 mg a day for 3 months. The devil incarnate. Scared me straight!

Would you be able to help me? I dont know how to use this site. 3 years ago i was prescribed 5 mg percocet and now i am up to 3/4's of a 30 mg oxy a day...and now my body is begging me to start taking that other 1/4 pill. I know it doesnt sound like much compared to others but my WD pain is REAL. I cant be in pain cause i have a 3 year old to take care of. I never took pills to get high...i got physically hooked after a bad labor (giving birth to my son). He is 3 now and is suffering because his mom is hooked! The depression from all this makes me so withdrawn from the world that we rarely leave the house. Plus, i feel like ANY physical activity makes that 1/4 of a pill wear out quicker. He is starting to desperately want friends and is asking why he doesnt have any. Please help me.  Oh i can get subs and was thinking i could BRIEFLY switch to subs then BRIEFLY switch back to Percs....but i dont know how or if i should. Someone just please help

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Totally agree. Subs are worse then methadone. I know multiple people who got off subs using low doses of vicodin. And have stayed off. Blood pressure helps too.

i will shed some light on the sub withdrawls ,i have been on subs for 4 years and went from 2mgs to nothing ,i used 10 vicodin to stop the sub withdrawls after 12 days my sub problem was over i still didnt feel so good but the vics helped me threw the withdrawls from subs i will also let ya in on something you got to want to get off the subs and playing with fire like taking vics is triky.YOU GOT TO HAVE CONTROLL OR YOU WILL GO BACK WHERE YOU STARTED VICS WILL HELP BUT REMEMBER YOU GOT TO WANT TO GET OFF SUBS OR DEPEND ON A LIVING HELL FROM NOW UNTIL YOU TRY WHAT I DID.

According to my doctor the longer you taper the easier it is once you jump off he wants me to Taper for two months I am currently on 8 mg per day.

I took pain pills off and on a couple years. Started on weekends, then gradually to other days. About 9 months ago I started using subs instead. One strip would last the whole week. I decided enough was enough and got down to the tiniest sliver for a week, then jumped. First couple days weren’t bad, had lots to keep me busy. Stopped sleeping though. Grabbed an hour or two here and there. After 3 days, I tried a vic, which didn’t get me High, but definitely improved my aches. I was sweating like a mad man, sneezing, all over pain. So it helped. Yesterday I decided no more pills to help (Day 14 of no sub and been taking the vic for about 10 day). Omg, still miserable. Barely made it through work. Leg pains, sweats, flu like symptoms. So last night I had another vic. Today is better, but probably the lingering feeling from the vic? Shouldn’t it be easing up by now? I know what the vic wd feels like, nothing compared to sub. I could always work through a vic wd.

I did half an 8mg sub and dope the same day high as hell!!!!!!

I agree! No one ever told me the withdrawal would last sooo long!! This is for the birds!!!

Good to know. I'm on day 8 of this sub train jump..... I can't imagine what I got myself into!! Restless legs, crawling out of my skin... I feel like I've made it over the hump. But, it would just be so easy for me to get more. As my niece is the lovely who is my supplier.... She called me today to see if I want some. I told her that I'm 8 days free and no thanks.... But the way I'm feeling... I know just a tiny piece would make me feel so much better. Negating everything I just put myself through... Week off of work with the "stomach flu' and a trip to the emergency room... It's been a great week!! Stay strong and hopeful!