Using Vicodin to ease suboxone withdrawals

The big mistake is comparing one persons results with another. The medicine may have similar effects but people are completely different. The way they tapered, diet, activity, mindset and most of all environment. All of those areas have a profound way one will feel when stopping Suboxone. Also, many mistakenly believe that taking Subs and tapering will end addiction mindset. It won't plain and simple. The most important thing one can do is change their current environment. It may mean move, end relationships and change the way you go about your day and mindset. It is a very complex area and only one thing can be universal. Once an individual is sick of their current life and has made a commitment to change then a person will find his/her way to a life away from opiates. How one does it is different as the individual the want to and desire to do whatever it takes is universal.

the alternative is being on the Subs for life. The good news it is all up to you and you will do what your are happy with. Otherwise you would do something else. Everything else is just an excuse or rationalization.

I am doing it using oxycodone. I stopped subs a week ago. I waited till I started getting sick. I took 10 mg. oxy every 5/6 hrs for 2 days. then 5mg. ever 5/6 hrs. for 3 days. then cut the 5mg in half take the half 4 times a day give yourself a cut off date like 3 days. If you have a pill cutter you can even quarter them. It won't do much but it makes your "wants" a lot better. If you can get your hands on some Xanax or Valium it helps too you can sleep at night and relieves anxiety. And by the way using this method there are no withdrwals.

I have been on Suboxone for five years and I'm coming down right now from it day 10 and I'm miserable

It's the choice of two evils guys. I've had both withdrawal types numerous times. Vicodin killed the sub withdrawals, however, I was left to deal with the Vic withdrawals after. Sadly, there is no major cure all but determination and resiliency. Jesus will be with you, I promise. All you have to do is ask him too.

Try methadone. Thats the worst. Im a disabled vet. Been on just about everything but suboxone helped me get free of the opi hold. Now trying to leave subs behind. For me the w/d from subs arent to bad but i was only on 8 mg a day.After the third day i started talking 5 mg vics and it helped with the feeling. You don't get a high from them and if that's your conseren then don't take because you abuse them. If its about not feeling like sh*t then i recommend it. Im no doc also blood pressure meds help as well. Coloniden i believe its called. Good luck and be free

do not follow this guys horrible mis informed terrible advice omg so bad.

ok,,my story guys,,,did pills for i.r yrs,,herion for 8 months,,then went to jail for Friday Saturday,sunday,,got out Monday still sick,,,got home to 6 suboxones I had gatherd during my herion dealing days as payments,,never used them till that day,,December 2011 the 6th I took my first sliver,,,dec 2011--fed 2016 ,,ive been on subs,,always bopught them oon streets for ten bucks each,,any ways the hole 4 years I made one strip last 3-4 days,,always,,never more,,then I got a job doing concrete,,hard worjk,sweatr a lot,,i would sweat like a pig,,i believe all the toxins subs and all were coming out,,anyways 7 days ago I stopped sumwhat,,the first 3 nights I would only take a tiny pen tip sized piece to help sleep along with zquil and 2x 5mg valuem,,never have taken valuem before,,since ive been detoxing ive slept a min of 6 hrs every night,,even with the tiny sub pen tip piece I took I remained chilled /hot,,but only had the sh**s twice in two diffrnt days,,,my family left to water park for weekend I was alone,,i watched nothing but funny movies,,stand up comedys,,made me feel good,,i laughd ect,,,today,,im still ch8uilled/hot,no energy,,but I did go out to eat and went on mile walk,,3 days ive walked one mile,,ran a few blocks,,i was shity feeling but while your doing it you feel good,,its super weird,,,,,and also the thing is I have 13 red specaled vicodins in cabinet that ive not touched and don't want to,,i truly want to stop,,if you want to stop you can have drugs in your face and you will say f**k it,,only if you truly have had enough,,,thats how I know im done,,oh yeah and I smoked weed also,,i don't smoke it but I got one joint from a person and took one hit evry night to help sleep,,one hit of weed,,zquil,and 5-10 mg valium helped me sleep everynight so far,,7 days already,,my lady had 10 valuem from a back issue she had,,they were in cabinet for yr or 2,,,along with vics,,I only did subs cause I got addicted,,as a result of trying to stasy off herion,,,its possible if my addicted ass can do it you can,,you justy need to figure out what makes it easy,,i also taperd down from the 2mg a day that I took for 4 years to more then half of that for one week,,didn't get sick but was super lazy,,,then I had a sliver left and used that to star the withdrawl,,what I took at night was so tiny that I don't know if it dissolved on my finger tip when I touched it to my toung or if it made it in therte,,lol,,eighter way,,,if you really wanna do it you will,,,my advice,,after the 3-4 days,,force your self to walk,,its 20 degress in wisonsin and im out side walking to make my body better,,,also hot showers is awesome,,and you need to sleep,,if you can get your self to go to sleep your doing good,,doing this with no sleep would be insane,,,Benadryl works too,,besafe when taking this sh*t,,don't overdose on sleep sh*t,,,,.good luck,,if I can do this you guys can forreal,,,,but before you even start to make your life a misery for a few days ask your self if your ecven ready,,,otherwise don't waste people times or yourself,,,misery to me was hot flashes and feeling like you r skin is all weird and warm,,,get up and move around feels good,,also if you smoke,,smoke a cig here and there,dont need any extra withdrawl susmtoms added if not needed,,love ya

ok,,,,i was on 2mg a day suboxone,,,did this four years straight,,,,so I did a one week taper,,one strip lasted seven days,,,,woke up on eight day already having chills like everyday I did because so small dose,,i took 1mg at 5am before work,,then 1mg at noon with lunch,,i did concrete work and sweat a lot of it out,,so I would go into chills easily,,but fopr some reason from noon till 5am I was 100 % ok no sweats/chills,,,anyways,,so when I did the week taper I saved three eyelash sized slivers of suboxne,,,the first three nights I was already in withdrawls sever chills sweats and restless upper body,,so I took one sliver the size of an eye las,,I swear it when I say the size of an eye lash it was my emergency slivers for what I feared was to come,,when you go into full withdrawl and your sick like this,,and you take this tiny sliver the size of eyelash you feel the relief,,,also I took Benadryl with zquil,,the first 3 nights,,,4th ,5th,6th nights no sub slivers,,but took one 5 mg valuem with Benadryl and zquil,,over sedated,,still issues sleeping somewhat but did fall asleep and slept minimum of 6 hors 1,2,3,4 day,,5th,6th day same sh*t,,zquil,,one 5mg valuem with benadrylk,,not all at once,,take as need,,,start with lesser,,zquil and Benadryl,,if not browsy and relaxed then kaboom take the valuem or kolonipin,,"misspelled",,,,so 7th,8th,9th,10th days I took 10 mg Vicodin,,,,im on day 12 or 13 trying not to count now,,im a little bit chills with sweatrs but not bad at all,,,main thing is the sluggish lazy unmotivated feeling,,,clamy hands,,had the sh**s one time today,,,what I recommend is that you only take a 500 Vicodin at night before wanting to sleep,,not during day incase you get that buzz you like and then you start thinking how better it is not to be sick,,it happened to me,,,you will stop feeling sick and you will get relief,,you will eat slepp,and chill out like normal,,,and you start thinking,,so I say DOOOOO NOT TAKE IT DURING THE DAY,,YOU WILL LIKE THE BUZZ WAAAAYYY TO MUCH AND WANTING MORE RELEIEF,,this way you take it at night,,you are able to sleep but are not awake to feel the buzz,,,beleivwe me when I say this people,,,only at night before you wanna sleep,,don't pop the f****r and sit back and watch "KEVIN HART" LAUGH AT MY PAIN stand up comedy show on Netflix,,lol,,,felt way to comfy and way to easy to make you wanna say f**k it and go back to pills or subs,,,thtas the problem I see that had happened,,,you finally feel good after being sick for 7 days or what ever and you just don't wanna go back to being sick,,kinda like having a fun ass wekkend after a long week at work,,you don't wanna go back on moinday,,same sh*t,,you will not want to wake up to the sweats/chills,,i say wait 7 or 8 days,,then use a Vicodin at night before sleep to allow you a night to recuperate,,DO NOT USE FOR MORE THEN 3 DAYS,,,,,,,im not sure if this restarts the withdrawls or not,,so far im ok,,,,feel a lot better then day 2,3,4,5,6,7,,,idk,,,,its scary to feel good again after the sickness for a week,,,,don't do it during the day,even if you have your kid come over for the weekend,,,i saved up money for this situation and quit my job for 30 days,,i work concrete and told them hey I need off this sh*t and this is it,,if you want me back ill come back but for now I gotta do this,,,and here I am,,day 13,,,,i couldn't imagine pushing a wheel barrel full of concrete in a gian basement in a new built home,,,,i am a last sun of gun right now,,i don't even wanna get in show or go on walks,,i force my self to do it,,then jump right back on couch,,ooohhh,,also if you smoke,,i say smokem if you got them,,why add another withdrawl sysmtom ontop of another,,there is sysmtoms to not smoking when your a smoker,,like head aches,,,so take some puffs,,,,cigs are bad,,but were trying to make this situation the most painful one easiest,,,,,,,three nights with the Vicodin,,,i don't recommend percocets,,if so,,only half a 5,,,,lol,,idk,,perks and vics are indeed diffrnt ,,,now also are you ding this for you or your P.O.???,,,a person can be in rehad for 1000 years and get out to only smoke dope or crack,,or shoot,,or pills ect,,,if your not the one that's tired of thid life then don't even bother,,,,you gotta want this,,you truly gotta want to get clean,,,you gotta want to be ready to embrace withdrawls,,,I watched withdrawl/recovery videos from subs for a weeks straight before,,then said to myself,,alright mutherfucker bring it on,,,,then the next day I almost sh*t my pants with the runs,,lol,,lol,,good luck guys/gals,,you gotta want this period,,otherwise doont waste your time or others,,

Anyone still in this thread? I was on Vics and perks for about 3 years never touch a drug in my life prior. (Should have kept it that way) anyway. I was spending so much money on it decided to go see a dr for suboxone. Had I know suboxone was 10 times worse to get off of I would have dealt with the Vic w/d. I been on subs for 5 years and this whole time I thought I was on the road to success until my 26th bday. You guys in the us know 26 = no more mommy and daddy's insurance. So I have a good job and make decent money but no insurance I get will cover sub. WTF. That's besides the point. I told my doc and he said, "that's ok your only taking 4mg a day of suboxone, so should be easy to get off." I quickly found out 4mg is not a low dose to get off of. So I bought 15 2mg on the streets to try and ween. Was taking like a 1/16 to an 1/8 of a 2mg a day. It's still hell. I have to work I can't go crazy at work. I wanna be clean I really do. I'm just scared as hell. I had 9 Vics left from a few years ago. Only 7.5mg. I have been take of 1 1/2 of those a day. And it eases the sub w/d but today is only day 3 without sub and I'm scared as hell. I see everyone saying day 5-7+ are ridiculous. please please please anyone ever thinking I'll just try a half of pill I won't get hook. Just don't do it. I ruined 7 years of my life for this sh*t. I've never even smoked pot, I was 200lbs in great shape. After a year on Vics and percs lost my job, didn't eat took 15-20 Vic/pers a day. When I went to the dr first time to get subs I got weighed and only weighed 131lbs . I was skin and bones. Please don't ruin your life for a good time! Not worth it and I am willing to bet 100% of the people in this post will agree. Don't do it! I wouldn't wish this sh*t on my worst enemy and that's the gods honest truth. I know people that is in my boat that has been on the sh*t 5times longer than me and feel for them. If someone ever tells you it's easy to get off don't listen! Even if it may be for you, it's not worth the risk and the monkey on your back. Think twice.

I agree,i have health problems that the Suboxone only makes worse,all I can do is sleep ,when I take it , and cant remember anything,i feel trapped with no help and nowhere to turn,i want off it but my docter want here a word I say,what to do,i need to be put to sleep for a colonoscopy,but scared because of Suboxone,but the dr,s don't seemed to no about it or even be concerned,very scared and concerned

That's what I want to know

Suboxone is worse than any withdrawal and impossible to go about your daily bisiness in a comfortable manner. I wouldn't give this drug to my worst enemy! And that's the honest truth. I'd rather go through a few weeks of wd's from any other drug than going through several months to years of suboxone withdrawals!!! It's rediculous how long you have to deal with the discomfort and depersonalizations this drug causes in your life and doctors should warn everyone how much harder it is to get off of than the drug they are trying to get off of. I've seen the wd systems turn very strong people into pathetic weak humans for months at a time. It's so sad and they swear on everything they will never return to that drug again or forget the how evil it is. It is completely wrong how loose doctors are with this drug. As for the people buying it illegally, if the seller does not warn them about how incredibly strong this drug is they could very very easily OD and die from one or even half a dose depending on size. It is not something to play around with and could ruin or even end your life! No exaggeration!!!

Have you done a suboxone withdrawal?

THANK YOU! Excatly what I am doing and almost done. I am on day 15. Day 8-13 where the worst. NOT sleeping at all. I would take 1 * 1/2 5 Mg Vike's at wakeup and suffer the day. Then 1.5 at bed time. I did this for a week then cut that to 1/2 in the morning, Suffer the day and 1/2 at night. IT WORKS! The people on here that dont know are always the ones making abstinence the common theme. If you want off and have the true desire. Then you wont abuse the viks and you will succeed. DO NOT OVER TAKE THEM, and in 21 days of the last sub dose your done! IT WORKS!