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Reply to Bambi,
Your personal theory is strictly an opinion and I can respect that. Allow me to shed some light on the subject of lynxikas " bad" childhood. I am a survivor of childhood sexual abuse. And I do mean survivor, notice I did not include myself a as victim because my mentality is thus Even though I was exposed to such atrocity as sexual abuse I chose to break the chain of misery by not repeating the deeds nor condoning such behavior. I had my oldest daughter shortly after I turned 18 and had three months until I graduated. I worked more than 25 hours a week since the age of 14 and continued to work while I had my daughter and finished school on time and with honors just as I should have. Being a single mother, as her own father abandoned his role, I did not always make the best decisions in regards to my personal dealings with individuals, whom I realized at a young age, you cannot control what other people will do nor feel no matter what the situation. All an individual can do is control their own reactions to others be it in action, word ,or deed. The suggestion that my daughter and her husband fall into the category of "BUT it was kind of true for you guys!" is basically making an untrue statement as you do not know the dynamics of what was " bad" about their childhoods, nor is it accurate to assume that they have not overcome their childhood tribulations. On the contrary, I did not "act" like my mother when raising my daughter, I admit mistakes were made along the way from lack of better judgment in the growing process as a young mother, but that is in all our resumes when we become a mother. The only " Perfect" mother that can lay claim to doing all that is right is the Holy Mother herself, and then it still is on assumption and interpretation of which " dogma" you follow as an individual. the fact that I broke from the traditional" family upbringing my family adhered to is a prime example that no matter what I may have gone through , I chose , actively, to make sure my daughter was taken care of First and foremost, and more times than I can count I had to sacrifice my own wants , needs, and desires in order to do so. Even to the point that for a time I gave temporary custody to another in order to ensure my daughter suffered the least of the consequences that occurred from my own actions , some of which I had control over and some of which I had no control over. The point being, it is unfair , biased, and judgmental of you to classify two individuals you know nothing about except by what personal opinion she holds that pertains to her personal experiences, whether they are experiences that can be shared with other women by similarity or not. Experiences are similar but the feelings, accomplishments, obstacles and dynamics of their personal relationship are unique. On the point that""our past can never hold us back" As sometimes you can't overcome the scars of it!" I disagree. I carry many scares internally, and externally, but that does not mean they cannot be overcome. Overcoming the hardships one has faced and the ability to recognize when unhealthy cognitive behaviors are influencing actions to continue that are destructive and unhealthy is certainly classified as overcoming the " scars". Some individuals wear their "scars" like a badge of honor while others still go around thinking the world "owes "them something; still others never let the " scars" show and no one is any the wiser.
You seem to be a fairly intelligent and well spoken women and I applaud you the ability as a fellow survivor of childhood abuse to break the vicious cycle. We can agree to disagree, but I find it disturbing that your personal theory, based on your opinion, would overflow into making an assumption that Lynxika and her husband are not over their childhoods. I beg to differ as I personally know what both have overcome and have placed in the past, because they chose to be students of the experience and not victims of the circumstances. the past is a learning tool for this young couple, who by all statistics according to "normal "society, shouldn't have made it this far, let alone be married. They have beaten odds on all levels. Neither of them is playing " games" with each other, and as my grandmother always said" You will never truly know everything about your spouse, even if you are together for a lifetime, but what you can do is love them unconditionally and the only way to do that is to agree to disagree and not place "conditions" on the union in the first place that leaves no room for negotiation and compromise." Finding healthy ways to take the focus off wanting a baby on the " biological" clock is a very mature and responsible thing to do. Forcing a spouse to give in by pressuring them with guilt is not a mature nor healthy way to address the issue, nor accomplish the goal. In my opinion, it was judgmental and a matter of your own personal theory to make the assumption" that it was kind of true for you guys". I hear what you are saying, but it does not apply to this couple in the manner you stated.
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Just thought I'd update you with some positive moving forward. As a result of getting so upset about my sister-in-law I decided to have a frank chat
with my husband about how I felt because I realised we hadn't done this properly. I felt that he didn't understand what things upset me and I, like many of you, was fed up of feeling like a nag!
So I let him know that things like walking down baby aisles when shopping, babies on tv etc. made me sad because I wanted a a baby and that the best thing he could do was just recognise these things too and give me extra love and attention. Turns out he did notice this but didn't know what to do because he thought it would highlight the problem!
Also by talking frankly all the things I was worried about delaying the baby, like his career progression etc wasn't the reason we were waiting at all! He told me he was just being selfish because he wanted some more time when he had me to himself and wanted to do more things together. So this was lovely to hear and made me feel better about waiting becuase he just wants more time together as a couple becuase we've never had much money to do things together. So knowing this I think will help me becuase that way I can take it a month at a time and spend my time thinking of next months activity together.
However despite this lovely reason for wanting to wait..I'm still desperate for a baby and that's not going away. In this frank talk my husband said what he really wanted was for us to both wake up one day and decide we wanted a baby and that's why he didn't like my deadline. I told him as well how unrealistic this was, so we are definitely trying at the beginning n of 2014, coming off pill mid 2013 to get my system back on track. I also let him know if he wakes up one morning wanting a baby then he should let me know because I'm already there!
So I hope that update gives some hope and ideas, so now I have said my piece and how I feel I think I'll try and bring up less often now because I feel I've been heard...I especially think it helped because I stayed calm, didn't cry or shout and did at a time we were both awake and not in a rush.
Hope this helps ladies..and good luck also!
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However everything you say is also true, you are never financially ready and all your comments about your husband and your sacrifices are totally understandable and justifiable you being angry. For a lot of women on here they are having trouble getting their husband to even start trying..perhaps what your husband is feeling is the pressure of baby-making sex. I've known couples get so frustrated and fed up because sex has started to feel like a stressful chore. Mayeb that is what he's feeling and he's using the finances as an excuse instead? I know every day, week and month feels like an opportunity missed but maybe to get him trying properly again you could try a couple of months just enjoying sex for sex (whilst still taking your fertility drugs) and he'll start to relax again and be more open to starting a family again.
I hope this has helped. I'm still finding every day waiting to try a struggle and babies are literally everywhere..I can't watch tv, read books or anything without feeling horrible so I know how you feel.I feel like I'm going mad. That's why I'm still coming on here a lot and reading what people say so I don't feel alone so please keep posting and I'll try and help support anyone else who needs advice but obviously this is all opinion and no expertise. Anyone know the best way to get through the nights? I find my mind racing and jealous burning thoughts about my sister-in-law happen mostly at these times when my husband falls asleep before me so any advice would help.
Good luck ladies :)
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what the problems are and that he mainly wants more time with me. He does however know his date for trying and I'm confidant he'll stick to it, if not the tips on here will come in useful! I've also made it clear how distressed I am every day so he's aware it's not gone away and he's starting to be more aware of what could upset me and is paying me more attention at these times...he was even understanding when I was upset about having a period reminding me I'm not pregnant....only 24 to go!
I think once we move next year to a bigger flat it'll seem more feasible to him as well. I'm also trying to look on the brightside that when he sees our new nephew or niece he may get broody enough to consider moving our date forward. I guess I'm also lucky enough to have a date at the moment even if he doesn't move it closer.
Thanks ladies again for your advice and posts, it's great not to feel alone or silly for having to devise ways to keep my mind off babies!
Good luck ladies
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I find it helped with my partner explaining as best I could how I actually feel about feeling empty and incomplete and my husband new early on in our relationship that children are what I wanted in the future, to withdraw from that is not what I signed up for. Maybe don't tell him you expect to die first but I definitely told my husband that I wanted a part of him with me in case anything happened and that I wanted his baby, not just any baby.
What I also did to help me gain perspective was search the internet for forums syaing my wife wants a baby but I'm not ready and found some great posts off men to men saying great supportive things to the man about fatherhood, perhaps they can give you some ideas to calm his fears.
I know it's difficult and hard, but whilst I can still play the waiting game, I'm 23, I think you're right to keep addressing the issue, if he changes his mind down the line it could be too late and it can take a while sometimes whatever age you are. Keep communicating weith him, keep assuring him you love him but also let him know this issue won't go away. I'm not saying pressure, bribe or blackmail him but let him know his options or what your thoughts are if he still refuses to have a child....could you stay with him if he does not move and never wants children?
Good luck, I hope this helps, I get alerted to all new posts because it's so helpful to me so please keep posting if you want any more opinions, hope it goes well!
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That's lovely. She's the one actually having a baby, although in un-ideal circumstances...and somehow because I'm writing i feel sad and broody I become the bad guy. I've explained to her how i feel but i'm sure you agree ladies she won't understand and I'll continue to be the bad guy becuase my statuses will remain, my feelings are valid. Any ideas how to get the point across if she doesn't accept my apology for upsetting her but defiance at keeping my support network for this difficult timer?
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Sorry to hear your niece has made things scarier for your husband but thigns do get better as they get older, perhaps remid him of this. I had that fear too but fortunately for me i live 250 miles away from my sister-in-law and she is not married to the babies father, or even with him now so I'm pretty sure any fear my husabd has of us changing as a couple won't be exacerbated by my nephew or niece being born. I'm sorry to hear about your false hope, I also had the same thing, my husband was very confused when I went to the toilet and came back in tears. on his won thoguh he's thinkng about increasing his monthly direct debit into the baby fund so hopefully when we move it could bring our ttc forward when we have realistic space for a baby. I'm feeling more confidant he won't back out the more he keeps doing things on his own like upping our savings...but i am aware of all the cautionary last minute mind changes on here!
I wish you all the luck
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