SKH
I totally understand I feel like I am missing so much and taking so much from my little guy. I guess we really do take things like walking for granted until it is taken away! I am very grateful for my life and family but...it does get hard to keep your head up. Just keep doing what we are doing, staying positive is key, and I try to remember that for my son's sake.
My Dr. is leaning towards fusion..but I would love to hear anyone take on this. I understand the pain lessens, but you loose so much movement? I don't know which one is worse or better for that matter. I am 33 and I want to be able to get the best out of my foot as possible, I have come to terms with some of this but I guess I still have hope that someone out there knows how to really treat this injury. Just from reading these posts it seems that even though all of our injuries are very similiar, they have all been treated very differently. No one seems to know the "answer". Maybe we just have to deal with it, but I am willing to search until someone can tell me something. All of the technology and amazing things that can be done...and then there is the "lisfranc fracture". I am trying to find some humor in this!
SKH, let me know what you think your options might be. How far post surgery are you? My husband likes to tell me that it hurts because I over do it, but I work and I am Mom I just do what I have to do everyday! Take care of that little one and do the best that you can, keep me posted with any new or old options. Thank You! Keep Smiling!
I totally understand I feel like I am missing so much and taking so much from my little guy. I guess we really do take things like walking for granted until it is taken away! I am very grateful for my life and family but...it does get hard to keep your head up. Just keep doing what we are doing, staying positive is key, and I try to remember that for my son's sake.
My Dr. is leaning towards fusion..but I would love to hear anyone take on this. I understand the pain lessens, but you loose so much movement? I don't know which one is worse or better for that matter. I am 33 and I want to be able to get the best out of my foot as possible, I have come to terms with some of this but I guess I still have hope that someone out there knows how to really treat this injury. Just from reading these posts it seems that even though all of our injuries are very similiar, they have all been treated very differently. No one seems to know the "answer". Maybe we just have to deal with it, but I am willing to search until someone can tell me something. All of the technology and amazing things that can be done...and then there is the "lisfranc fracture". I am trying to find some humor in this!
SKH, let me know what you think your options might be. How far post surgery are you? My husband likes to tell me that it hurts because I over do it, but I work and I am Mom I just do what I have to do everyday! Take care of that little one and do the best that you can, keep me posted with any new or old options. Thank You! Keep Smiling!
Hello:
For those who asked for an "expert" surgeon, Dr. Mark Myerson is your man. He practices at the Foot & Ankle Center, Mercy Hospital, Baltimore, M.D.
He is the world recognized expert on foot and ankle reconstruction. Many professional athletes are sent to him for complex problems like Lis Franc.
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For those who asked for an "expert" surgeon, Dr. Mark Myerson is your man. He practices at the Foot & Ankle Center, Mercy Hospital, Baltimore, M.D.
He is the world recognized expert on foot and ankle reconstruction. Many professional athletes are sent to him for complex problems like Lis Franc.
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I can tell you that I am now 5 months post surgical fusion and things are going well. There is an adjustment period when you start walking on a fused foot, with your ankle picking up some of the motion, but I hardly notice it anymore. I have hardly any noticable pain in my foot now.
I can only speak for myself but after one year of foot pain and arthritis from my first LisFranc repair I had enough and I am so glad I got my foot fused. In the long run I will be able to do more with the fused foot than I would have been able to had I decided not to get it done.
I can only speak for myself but after one year of foot pain and arthritis from my first LisFranc repair I had enough and I am so glad I got my foot fused. In the long run I will be able to do more with the fused foot than I would have been able to had I decided not to get it done.
Hi Musictch:
Yes, the Lord has definetely been showing me alot of things. You know, dont fret about the surgery, you go in and come out before you know it. I can honestly say that the pain is limited to when my foot swells quite a bit, I feel a little pain. I must say, though that I dont really have alot of pain. You will be back in your classroom, and dont forget to TRULY believe that The Lord will get you there. I think sometimes He has a way of "putting me on my rear end" to get a better perspective of things. I truly appreciate now the use of my feet, but I am greatful for a full functioning body. I have to tell you though, my hubbys maintenance officer DID NOT want to send him home, and told him that it could possibly influence his future career, and he said "oh well". You know, it takes more strength wether it be a man or woman to be able to stand up and do what is right. Thank you for your post, you should be excited to get the surgery done. But please be sure to follow your doctors instructions to the "T". Impatience may set it, but send it down the toilet!! Bless you and have a safe surgery.
Hizgrace
Yes, the Lord has definetely been showing me alot of things. You know, dont fret about the surgery, you go in and come out before you know it. I can honestly say that the pain is limited to when my foot swells quite a bit, I feel a little pain. I must say, though that I dont really have alot of pain. You will be back in your classroom, and dont forget to TRULY believe that The Lord will get you there. I think sometimes He has a way of "putting me on my rear end" to get a better perspective of things. I truly appreciate now the use of my feet, but I am greatful for a full functioning body. I have to tell you though, my hubbys maintenance officer DID NOT want to send him home, and told him that it could possibly influence his future career, and he said "oh well". You know, it takes more strength wether it be a man or woman to be able to stand up and do what is right. Thank you for your post, you should be excited to get the surgery done. But please be sure to follow your doctors instructions to the "T". Impatience may set it, but send it down the toilet!! Bless you and have a safe surgery.
Hizgrace
Hi SKH,
I am a ding dong. I am still getting used to the forum, and trying to figure out how to get these things posted.
Any how, my ortho surgeon WILL NOT let me bear ANY weight on my foot even being 3 weeks post surgery. He gives me the "eagle eye" when I come in for appointments (He really is a great guy, what a blessing), and smiles and asks how I am. As far as stiffness goes, I dont really feel alot of stiffness, when my foot swells along the "fusion" point and where the plate was inserted/bone graft...I feel a little pain. I dont feel ANY pain where the 11 screws are at all. Every once in a while I get these 7 SECOND "shooting bee sting like pains , (my body telling me "hey, dummie, have a seat) but really no major pain. I am not sure how it is going to feel, he wont let me walk on it. I go on June 30 to get the cast off and have more x rays done to see how the healing is and how the bone graft etc. are taking. I will be MORE than glad to let you know how it feels though. I will keep alll posted. My main love is ICE SKATING, so I hope that some time I will be possibly able to return to it. I am just counting my MANY blessings right now that I have full function in the rest of my body!! How is the feeling with your walking now? My doc said that the idea with the fusion is to prevent future arthritic pain. Not all, but some. Are you pretty physically active? I am 35, still feel like 20, but oh well. My doc doesnt think he is going to take out the screws. HE WAS SOOOO EXCITED WHEN HE FINISHED SURGERY. He looked like a kid in a candy store. I have read some posts where the people who walked on the fusions said it was a bit stiff, but for the most part, they said that it didnt hinder much. I'll keep you posted, ok? Sorry so long winded.
Blessings,
Hizgrace
I am a ding dong. I am still getting used to the forum, and trying to figure out how to get these things posted.
Any how, my ortho surgeon WILL NOT let me bear ANY weight on my foot even being 3 weeks post surgery. He gives me the "eagle eye" when I come in for appointments (He really is a great guy, what a blessing), and smiles and asks how I am. As far as stiffness goes, I dont really feel alot of stiffness, when my foot swells along the "fusion" point and where the plate was inserted/bone graft...I feel a little pain. I dont feel ANY pain where the 11 screws are at all. Every once in a while I get these 7 SECOND "shooting bee sting like pains , (my body telling me "hey, dummie, have a seat) but really no major pain. I am not sure how it is going to feel, he wont let me walk on it. I go on June 30 to get the cast off and have more x rays done to see how the healing is and how the bone graft etc. are taking. I will be MORE than glad to let you know how it feels though. I will keep alll posted. My main love is ICE SKATING, so I hope that some time I will be possibly able to return to it. I am just counting my MANY blessings right now that I have full function in the rest of my body!! How is the feeling with your walking now? My doc said that the idea with the fusion is to prevent future arthritic pain. Not all, but some. Are you pretty physically active? I am 35, still feel like 20, but oh well. My doc doesnt think he is going to take out the screws. HE WAS SOOOO EXCITED WHEN HE FINISHED SURGERY. He looked like a kid in a candy store. I have read some posts where the people who walked on the fusions said it was a bit stiff, but for the most part, they said that it didnt hinder much. I'll keep you posted, ok? Sorry so long winded.
Blessings,
Hizgrace
Hi CorbinsMom,
WHAT A CUTE NAME. My son (7) Is sympathetic toward my foot too, and I giggled when I read your post, also with your hubby saying your foot hurts because you over did it. My hubby says the same thing. He was just flown back from Iraq after 8 months there (via a Red Cross emergency message to get him home for my surgery), sometimes it is hard to get back into the mode of letting him take care of me, I am used to having to "suck it up". I had 11 screws put in and a fusion, plate and bone graft done, a nd I will you that I have very little pain. About the sensations of having the fusion, My doctor WILL NOT allow me to weight bear yeat. My injury was in March, my surgery was May 9th. I have an appointment June 30 to have cast taken off and further XAYS to see how the fusion/bone graft/plate/screws have taken. When I am slight weight bearing, I will keep posting, and let you guys know how it is. Keep your head up and positive, I kn0ow its hard, but you can do it !!!
Blessings, Hizgrace
WHAT A CUTE NAME. My son (7) Is sympathetic toward my foot too, and I giggled when I read your post, also with your hubby saying your foot hurts because you over did it. My hubby says the same thing. He was just flown back from Iraq after 8 months there (via a Red Cross emergency message to get him home for my surgery), sometimes it is hard to get back into the mode of letting him take care of me, I am used to having to "suck it up". I had 11 screws put in and a fusion, plate and bone graft done, a nd I will you that I have very little pain. About the sensations of having the fusion, My doctor WILL NOT allow me to weight bear yeat. My injury was in March, my surgery was May 9th. I have an appointment June 30 to have cast taken off and further XAYS to see how the fusion/bone graft/plate/screws have taken. When I am slight weight bearing, I will keep posting, and let you guys know how it is. Keep your head up and positive, I kn0ow its hard, but you can do it !!!
Blessings, Hizgrace
Fusion,
Thank you for the positive feedback on bone fusion i will be looking in to that in the near future. Keep me posted on the stiffness and pain.
Hizgrace,
I read your earlier post and I am glad that your husband was able to get home from Iraq to help you. Is he staying or going back? We will keep him in our prayers! Thank you for all of the feed back your injury seems a little worse than mine. I am going to research fusion a little more. I am happy to hear you are improving. I am on my lunch break so sorry if I seem short...I will post more later! Thank again to all and keep smiling!
Thank you for the positive feedback on bone fusion i will be looking in to that in the near future. Keep me posted on the stiffness and pain.
Hizgrace,
I read your earlier post and I am glad that your husband was able to get home from Iraq to help you. Is he staying or going back? We will keep him in our prayers! Thank you for all of the feed back your injury seems a little worse than mine. I am going to research fusion a little more. I am happy to hear you are improving. I am on my lunch break so sorry if I seem short...I will post more later! Thank again to all and keep smiling!
Fusion,
Thank you very much for the positive feed bback about bone fusion. Please keep me updated with how your recovery is coming!
Hizgrace,
First of all I am glad to hear that your husband was able to get home to be with you. Is he home for good or going back? We will keep him in our prayers! Thank you for all of the info, it sounds like your injury was a ittle more severe than mine, but like I said earlier no Dr's are treang these injuries the same. I am going to research fusion a little more and try to find another specialist in my area. Please keep me posted and any other advice will be greatly appreciated. Keep smiling!!
Thank you very much for the positive feed bback about bone fusion. Please keep me updated with how your recovery is coming!
Hizgrace,
First of all I am glad to hear that your husband was able to get home to be with you. Is he home for good or going back? We will keep him in our prayers! Thank you for all of the info, it sounds like your injury was a ittle more severe than mine, but like I said earlier no Dr's are treang these injuries the same. I am going to research fusion a little more and try to find another specialist in my area. Please keep me posted and any other advice will be greatly appreciated. Keep smiling!!
geeez. i don't know who i'm talking to anymore :-) duh. i didn't see the recent posts for months on here... maybe that's a good thing...you guys missed my whole freak out period after i got the dreaded LF injury. its been yucky to say the least. i guess i've done most of my grieving process out for the time being. my injury happened on march 30th and i got my screws "installed" at the end of april. geez i lost 3 of my 4 jobs, had to finish school in a wheelchair, take care of my 15 year old, give up all my summer plans. and incur serious strains on my romantic relationship, not to mention my attitude has sucked and i practically lost my faith in god, but none of that bothered me like the NOT KNOWING factor. that's the worst. no one can say for sure. doc's like "well you may not run again...you may run a marathon...you may not dance again...you may dance with the stars"blah blah....so i'm gettin over it...i'm tired of whining about it. so i looked up some football players and i posted them somewhere. i'm so lost in this forum.. anyway if no one saw i know warrick dunn of the falcons incurred this injury in 2003 he's still goin. there was duce staley...think he was the one to go on and run over 1,000 yards 2 yrs after the injury. there's a couple players out now...who are due to come back this fall...i'll post their names so we can keep an eye on em and root for em if yer into football. well, i'm so glad that i found the recent posts and i'll take some time this weekend to read all you guys stories. its tough..matter of fact i hurt right now. so gonna pop my stupid pill and go to bed.
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Still frustrated with this foot...
So I visted my Dr. yesterday regarding my continued pain. ( 13 months post injury/surg) My Ortho surg. just explained to me that I will have chronic pain with this & he is not in favor of doing the fusion, just yet. He said with having the fusion it can damage the next joints with time. Yes it will eliminate the pain in my midfoot, but cause future problems with other joints in the foot. Has anyone heard this before?
Dr. told me to look into a good shoe & gave me an insert to use. (metatarsal pad ) So, I go back in 6 weeks.
I knew this was a life long injury... just hated to hear it again.
Thanks for listening...
SKH
So I visted my Dr. yesterday regarding my continued pain. ( 13 months post injury/surg) My Ortho surg. just explained to me that I will have chronic pain with this & he is not in favor of doing the fusion, just yet. He said with having the fusion it can damage the next joints with time. Yes it will eliminate the pain in my midfoot, but cause future problems with other joints in the foot. Has anyone heard this before?
Dr. told me to look into a good shoe & gave me an insert to use. (metatarsal pad ) So, I go back in 6 weeks.
I knew this was a life long injury... just hated to hear it again.
Thanks for listening...
SKH
SKH: uggh, so sorry. Please keep updating as you learn more.
Re football players with Lisfranc injuries -- I went on an obsessive jag around this issue a while back and collected some info here <http://lisfrancnews.blogspot.com/2006/11/football-players.html>. The blogspot site links to articles on each, but FWIW here's the raw list. It will be intersting to see how the 2006 injuries come back this year. I've already seen some interesting articles about Stanbeck (who was drafted by Dallas), Tuck and others.
2006:
Lions running back Kevin Jones
Giants defensive end Michael Strahan
Giants defensive end Justin Tuck
Packers wide receiver Robert Ferguson
Bears safety Mike Brown
Seahawks safety Mike Green
U. Washington quarterback Isaiah Stanback
2005:
Eagles tight end Chad Lewis (article mentions an "extensive rehabilitation process that lasted nearly 10 months" and notes that he was awarded a 'Courage' award by his teammates in connection with his recovery. Also, article here mentions Lewis and several others below.)
Eagles running back Brian Westbrook
Lions linebacker Teddy Lehman (and here ["That injury, I think 50% of the people that get it don't play anymore...."])
U. Wisconsin guard Randy Gyllin
U. Nevada defensive end J.J. Milan ("Despite dealing with writhing pain in his foot and shin, Milan returned to the field [in 2006]. Nine months of rehabilitation and pain that often drove him to tears couldn't keep him away.")
2004:
Vikings tackle Mike Rosenthal [interesting rehab case study here]
Patriots cornerback Ty Law
Browns defensive end Courtney Brown
Cowboys tight end Dan Campbell ("Campbell still feels pain in his foot every morning. He has to limp around for a while, but once he's warmed up, he's fine. He no longer feels it on the field. ")
2003:
Eagles safety Brian Dawkins
Giants cornerback Will Allen
Rams cornerback James Whitley
LSU quarterback Matt Mauck ("The rehab process was slow, arduous and painful. Self-doubt about his future crept in as Mauck did every rehab drill imaginable....")
2002:
Seahawks linebacker Chad Brown
Bears defensive tackle Ted Washington
2001:
Eagles running back Duce Staley
Seahawks lineman Pete Kendall
2000:
Browns running back Errict Rhett (career ending)
1990:
Giants quarterback Phil Simms
Re football players with Lisfranc injuries -- I went on an obsessive jag around this issue a while back and collected some info here <http://lisfrancnews.blogspot.com/2006/11/football-players.html>. The blogspot site links to articles on each, but FWIW here's the raw list. It will be intersting to see how the 2006 injuries come back this year. I've already seen some interesting articles about Stanbeck (who was drafted by Dallas), Tuck and others.
2006:
Lions running back Kevin Jones
Giants defensive end Michael Strahan
Giants defensive end Justin Tuck
Packers wide receiver Robert Ferguson
Bears safety Mike Brown
Seahawks safety Mike Green
U. Washington quarterback Isaiah Stanback
2005:
Eagles tight end Chad Lewis (article mentions an "extensive rehabilitation process that lasted nearly 10 months" and notes that he was awarded a 'Courage' award by his teammates in connection with his recovery. Also, article here mentions Lewis and several others below.)
Eagles running back Brian Westbrook
Lions linebacker Teddy Lehman (and here ["That injury, I think 50% of the people that get it don't play anymore...."])
U. Wisconsin guard Randy Gyllin
U. Nevada defensive end J.J. Milan ("Despite dealing with writhing pain in his foot and shin, Milan returned to the field [in 2006]. Nine months of rehabilitation and pain that often drove him to tears couldn't keep him away.")
2004:
Vikings tackle Mike Rosenthal [interesting rehab case study here]
Patriots cornerback Ty Law
Browns defensive end Courtney Brown
Cowboys tight end Dan Campbell ("Campbell still feels pain in his foot every morning. He has to limp around for a while, but once he's warmed up, he's fine. He no longer feels it on the field. ")
2003:
Eagles safety Brian Dawkins
Giants cornerback Will Allen
Rams cornerback James Whitley
LSU quarterback Matt Mauck ("The rehab process was slow, arduous and painful. Self-doubt about his future crept in as Mauck did every rehab drill imaginable....")
2002:
Seahawks linebacker Chad Brown
Bears defensive tackle Ted Washington
2001:
Eagles running back Duce Staley
Seahawks lineman Pete Kendall
2000:
Browns running back Errict Rhett (career ending)
1990:
Giants quarterback Phil Simms
I am sorry to hear the frustrating news. I know what you mean, we all know that this is a lifer but it would be so great to hear a little positive reinforcement from time to time. I go next week to the Dr I will keep you posted on his opinion of fusion. Keep your head and remember you are not in this alone.
As for all the football players! I am a huge football fan and I have read about most of these. Question is why are they able to continue, what knid of treatment sre they getting that we aren't. Money can buy alot of things but....maybe they just suck it up. Who knows! It is very interesting.
To all keep on keepin' on!
As for all the football players! I am a huge football fan and I have read about most of these. Question is why are they able to continue, what knid of treatment sre they getting that we aren't. Money can buy alot of things but....maybe they just suck it up. Who knows! It is very interesting.
To all keep on keepin' on!
yea ... the money thing's crossed my mind. do the nfl players get some super care?? i'm just tryin to find hope and not question it too much.. look for the similarities instead of the differences. I actually saw a great article on chad lewis...his story's awesome. he went through sum serious rehab, i found an in-depth interview with him talking about it. they said he's looking great...they described his first run back on a football field in mini-camp...as beautiful. i'm very concerned about having a short ortho aircast boot...thinking i should switch to the tall ortho boot don't know...anybody have any experience with the ortho aircast boots??? i have a skinny little chicken foot and ankle (especially now that i haven't used either body part in almost 3 months. i just felt like the big boot was pushing down on the injury. the doc is asking me which feels better, i'm scared he's not real sure. i don't know i'm scared i'm screwing up my arch (no pun...haha) so short boot or tall boot??? any suggestions?
anyway, i vow right now to continue returning this site...to let folks know that we do recover from this and go on to enjoy life...maybe even more than we did because we have tons more gratitude for things like ...the ability to walk ;-) ..that is when i fully recover....and i have faith that i will.
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anyway, i vow right now to continue returning this site...to let folks know that we do recover from this and go on to enjoy life...maybe even more than we did because we have tons more gratitude for things like ...the ability to walk ;-) ..that is when i fully recover....and i have faith that i will.
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thank god for u!!! just what i wanted to hear!! thanks everyone who comes back and shares good stuff !!!:) i'm having the similar deal...my screws are coming out in about 6 more weeks just the second metatarsal and my first spread so doc had to rebuild the arch...if your still there...still wondering if there's a difference in wearing the short or tall boot even while non-weight bearing?
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Posted: 03/28/07 - 01:05 Post subject: LisFranc fracture
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I suffered a bad injury Jan 28/07 when I ran down an embankment and hit ice, slid across and hit the other side of the ditch. I have 2 screws in each of 1st & 2nd metatarsils, along with fusion and bone grafting. 2 threads in the third and pin each in 4th & 5th. 12 wks no weight bearing.
I am 51 and glad to find this forum as the prognosis so far for this injury is not great. Glad to know others suffer the same kind of pain. It has been 8wks now and I am able to reduce my pain meds as long as I keep my foot UP! I do not want permanent nerve damage from leaving it down and am anxious to hear what my surgeon recommends for physio now that I have read all the postings here. 4wks to go before I start partial weight bearing after having the 2 pins removed.
I pray for complete healing and will do everything I can to promote recovery. It sounds like water physio and good orthotics are important.
June 10, 2007
I am posting on this thread as this seems to be where all the action is!
I had a long boot on for 12wks, the biggest one I could get because I had two screws sticking out of the side of my foot, holding up the big boot probably gave my muscles excercise!
After I got the two screws out my surgeon told me to walk as far as I could one day and twice as far the next day, that was six wks ago, I can see improvement from one week to another, so that is encouraging. Stretching out the muscle from my big toe up the back of my leg has been a challenge and I am walking with less of a limp now, altho my foot is stiff until I warm it up! I can finally have my foot down for two or three hours at a time as long as I am walking around, so it is improving for sure. The research I have done says that the fusion is best way to avoid some of the results you will read in other postings where the bones and ligaments start to shift in the future and have to be operated on again. i am glad to have the screws, fusion and bone grafting done all at the same time.
Joined: 27 Mar 2007
Posts: 4
Posted: 03/28/07 - 01:05 Post subject: LisFranc fracture
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I suffered a bad injury Jan 28/07 when I ran down an embankment and hit ice, slid across and hit the other side of the ditch. I have 2 screws in each of 1st & 2nd metatarsils, along with fusion and bone grafting. 2 threads in the third and pin each in 4th & 5th. 12 wks no weight bearing.
I am 51 and glad to find this forum as the prognosis so far for this injury is not great. Glad to know others suffer the same kind of pain. It has been 8wks now and I am able to reduce my pain meds as long as I keep my foot UP! I do not want permanent nerve damage from leaving it down and am anxious to hear what my surgeon recommends for physio now that I have read all the postings here. 4wks to go before I start partial weight bearing after having the 2 pins removed.
I pray for complete healing and will do everything I can to promote recovery. It sounds like water physio and good orthotics are important.
June 10, 2007
I am posting on this thread as this seems to be where all the action is!
I had a long boot on for 12wks, the biggest one I could get because I had two screws sticking out of the side of my foot, holding up the big boot probably gave my muscles excercise!
After I got the two screws out my surgeon told me to walk as far as I could one day and twice as far the next day, that was six wks ago, I can see improvement from one week to another, so that is encouraging. Stretching out the muscle from my big toe up the back of my leg has been a challenge and I am walking with less of a limp now, altho my foot is stiff until I warm it up! I can finally have my foot down for two or three hours at a time as long as I am walking around, so it is improving for sure. The research I have done says that the fusion is best way to avoid some of the results you will read in other postings where the bones and ligaments start to shift in the future and have to be operated on again. i am glad to have the screws, fusion and bone grafting done all at the same time.