methadone to suboxone

I also stopped Methadone by starting at 110 mg and going down 10mg every week till you hit 30mg then u go down 5mg every week until u hit either 20mg or 15mg. Once you get too those #'s go down 2mg every week 15mg to 13mg to 11mg to 9mg all the way to 2 mg a week which looks like 2 drops.. I actually stayed on 2mg's for 2 weeks and then took my last dose on a friday and went from 2mg to 0. To be honest it wasn't bad AT ALL.. I felt a little bit of discomfort for about 2-3 days but I never stopped working or felt awful at all..

I spent 4 years clean. When I started Methadone in 1999 I was on Heroin in Connecticut.. I was on methadone for about 5 years when I had the urge to quit. As I stated i did quit ALL drugs and never did Heroin again i'm proud to say. However in about 2008 I tried a Roxy 15mg and to make a long story short after about 9 months I went back on Methadone. Down inTampa FL there really isn't much Heroin, However you can get Roxy's easier than weed and that's no joke. I read somewhere Pinellas County FL is the Oxycontin capital of the world. There's more pain mangagement doctor's than Starbucks.. Anyway the point I was making was I was on 40mg of Methadone a day when I wanted to try Suboxone.. Well I read what everyone said and got down to 20mg of methadone a day and then took the next 2 dose days off before I switched to Suboxone. Well all I can say is that it was HELL... I could actually feel the Suboxone push everything out of my system. I ran to the bath room and emptied my entire colon's worth of you..know..what. I Laid in bed with the worth Withdrawl ever. When I had been in rehab for Heroin and Roxy's I Never felt Anything like this AGONY. Every 10 minutes felt like hours.. I couldn't even move. PURE HELL on Earth for over 6 hours.. What finally got rid of the hell was I got 8 ten milligram Methadone pills and swallowed all of them.. It took about 2 hours before the Methadone really kicked in BUT when it did it felt incredible. Needless to say I'm back on Methadone and at 20mg until i'm ready to kick it again.

Now some people have NO problem switching to Suboxone (if they get their dose low and take off at LEAST 48 hours)

I was picking up 7 days supply of methadone at a time. 40mls per day. I was talked into going on suboxone. So I thought "why not?". Dr. told me to wait 30 hrs after my last dose of methadone then take 16mls sub. I read up on these forums to gain a little info on what to expect and decided to wait 48 hours not 30, and try 4ml, as 16ml is a total blocker and there's no get out if you w/d. Well would you believe it? BANG! instant withdrawal. I did not expect it to be so violent as I'd held out longer and took much less. It was awful. It took an hour to get some heroin (it seemed like all day). It relieved the wds though. I went back to my dr. and asked for my methadone back. I told him what had happened. I got it back but now I have to pick it up daily and take it supervised!!
Im going to persevere with the subs (I still have a weeks supply) but I'm going to leave the methadone script and use H for 3 days then start the subs. I hope it works. The point is, that I was stable and fine picking up weekly, but now I feel like they forced me to make this decision because they know I can't get to the chemist every day. TOUGH LOVE ROFnLOL in agony.

The most useful comment on multiple postings is everyone is different. I have been an opiate addict for about 4 years since my father died. Once I ran out of his medication, I switched to heroin, and used around 2 grams of pretty strong stuff daily for 2 years. Then I started the cycle of trying to get clean. My first tries were with Suboxone. The doc gave me a script of the 8-2's and the only advice was wait until you feel a mild to moderate withdrawal and then take one. Now go and be healed. HA HA. The first time I waited about 12 hours after shooting and immediatly went into SERIOUS withdrawal. If I would have wanted to live I would have gone to the hospital. The next two times I waited 24 and 36 hours respectively, and the same. This is from the short acting opiate heroin. Now I've been on 80mg of Methadone and illicit opiate free for 6 months. I want to switch to Suboxone as I'm over the mental aspect of shooting and I'm sick of the stigma that comes with the clinic. The treatment from the staff is the worst. Anyway the most important thing I wanted to get out was NEVER USE THE DRUG YOU WERE ADDICTED TO PASS A TIMEFRAME. This has to be the stupidest advice I've ever seen or heard of given. You have worked, sweated, puked, and bled to get away from this sh*t, so don't give yourself an excuse to use again. Taper your methadone dose, wait 2 or 3 days, and understand you may feel a bit shitty making the transition. Take pride in the fact that you are getting your life back, and above anything else, DO NOT GO BACK TO STREET DRUGS.

I am getting ready to switch from methadone to suboxone. My Dr. recommends that I taper down to a 30mg dose prior to switching, but she has switched a patient from as high as 60mg of meth. The most important aspect is to be in withdrawal prior to induction of suboxone. I know all the literature says wait 48-72 hrs. after your last dose, but the doc says the best results have happened after four days off of methadone. Sound crazy? Well it is, but I am being switched to an around the clock dosing of short-acting opiates for the 4 days. Dr. says hydrocodone, but I might go for the oxycodone... anyway, after four days of oxy and NO METHADONE, the meth will mostly be out of my system and I will go into withdrawal 12 hours after my last dose of oxy. I might wait even longer than the 12 hours because I was told that if I am not sick enough and I take suboxone it can turn into an emergency medical situation. Seriously consider getting off methadone for MORE than the recommended 72 hours, and it is possible to switch to a short acting opiate for that time (although it can be a pain trying to get a Dr. to prescribe it to you, they don't usually understand) but end the short-acting opiate 12-24 hrs. before induction to suboxone. Oh, and get all the bloodwork, paperwork, and urine stuff done before your induction visit 'cause that stuff sucks when you're dopesick.

i was on methadone 90mgs a day for a year.i just came down 15mgs a day and only took 20 mgs today and took 2 mgs of a box and feel fine the key is 2 get down low then stop your methadone and take suboxon 2 mgs every 12 hrs for 48 hrs then take what u are gunna take every day u should never withdraw

ok,so i have a question for all of you and could really use the answer and advice ASAP! ok,so i use to be on the methadone clinic (i was a heavy heroine user for 2 years and then was on the clinic for 6 months and detoxed myself and along with that came the worse withdrawals i've EVER had in my life,seriously,as you all know) and have been off for quite some time but my old addictive ways came back and now i'm addicted to perks..just another,lighter,form of heroine(i hate to say this right now because i've been off the clinic for almost 3 years now,but i guess we all fall off the bandwagon once in a while..) of course the withdrawals aren't nearly as bad as what i've been thru in the past but withdrawals are withdrawals,i find them to be more horrible then having your eye balls plucked from your head!idk if i'm just more weak than most but they're UNBEARABLE to me..so to my question...i've been trying to quit this pill thing for like 8months now off and on and i'll do real good for like 5-6 days but then i'll go get one or two..or maybe even three or four and i'm right back to where i started..so,every time i go those few days without them it's because i can get ahold of some subs and they help with the withdrawals stupendously.i'll get like 2 and make them last for like 2-3days and then i'll be fine when i run out..i mean,i don't feel like 100% but i at least can eat and don't have the goosebumps as bad (which outta everything,i hate the goosebumps the most,i can NEVER get warm enough to make them stop)and no diarrhea(i know that was definitely wtmi but we're all adults here and we all have experienced this,if you've ever been addicted to opiates,that is)but i got weak today and did me up 3pills and i know i'll be sick sometime tomorrow evening and i CAN'T FIND ANY FREGGIN' SUBS ANYWHERE but i can find methadone so my question is,is methadone similar to subs?like,can i just get me one or two like i do with the subs and as long as i don't take the methadone for an extended period of time i won't feel any withdrawals? because i've never felt any withdrawals from the subs,i just took them long enough to get thru the worst part of the WD,which is the first few days...and then after that i felt a lot better,like i said, not perfect, but better.i'm just sooooo scared to take my chances with the methadone bc i member how bad i felt when i was detoxing and for like 3months after that i just felt horrible/weird/awkward and in a sh*t ton of pain but i also don't wanna WD from the perks either.i don't wanna WD AT ALL!i hate not being able to sleep.basically,what i'm saying is can i take the methadone for a couple of days like i do the subs to get thru the worst part of my WD's and then i'll be fine afterward like it has been in the past when i got the subs?i hope this made sense to you guys..or to even at least one person so they can tell me what i need to do and if getting the methadone is a smart idea or if it's like another form of opiates and it's just gonna make me even sicker?...i really hope someone reads this because i just realized how long this sh*t is..so please someone take their time to read this and give me their advice....
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME...I DON'T WANNA BE SICK IF I DON'T HAVE TO BE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have a serious question please someone help me out!! I have been on methadone for two years but I got so sick of it. I dont want to take the time to come down to 30mg to switch to suboxone. currently I am on or WAS on 60mg of methadone and my suboxone doctor told me to detox for two days and my app. is friday at 8 in the morning i told him i was on 60mg of methadone and he said it was fine that if i detox for two days or three i should be fine. has this gone smoothly with anyone else Making the switch cause right now im scared and detoxing badly i need to know if this has gone smoothly and ok with anyone else thankss

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I have had that same problem before and yes you can do that and you will be fine. its easier going from suboxone to methadone than methadone to suboxone. methadone is another opiate just a strong one. from my experiences on methadone I have actually taken percocets and other when i was withdrawaling from methadone and they didnt relieve any of my pain becausemethadone is such a strong opiate what did help me finally was a morphine pill but remember i was on 70mg of methadone thats as much as i can tell you. i need help though with the question/comment above this one though if anyone could help me out with that.

Okay so I literally just went through it myself this week! I was on 50mg for a year and a half. I read so many horror stories about how people took the subs too soon and went right into withdrawl. My doc told me that he would have liked me to wean down or even off the meth but if I waited atleast 72 hours from my last dose that I should be okay, but there was still a chance I could feel crappy for a few days. I have 2 kids and I stay at home with them by myself while my husband works, so I cant afford to be sick for any days. I took my last 20mg sat night at 9pm, waited a lil less than 72 hours bc by tuesday morning at that point, I didnt even care. I know everyone is different but those 50 hours actually werent that bad. Just hot cold sweats n kinda hard to sleep. Not to mention that I had to spend the first 36 hours of withdrawl at Childrens Hospital with my 3 year old! It sucked of course, but not THAT bad. No diahrea, no stomach cramping. Just a lil trouble sleeping and sweats. I've been taking the subs for 2 days now. Yea, they kinda suck compared to the meth, but Im hoping that if I just deal with it for a week or two I'll be fine. Believe me, your gonna have to push yourself, and its hard when you know what will make u feel better but at this point I already went through the withdrawl once and if I wanted to go back to meth, Im sure Id have to do it all over again. My doc also told me that meth is the only drug that does not interact well with the subs. So dont even try going back and forth. You'll know when your ready for it. When you cant take it anymore and can barely get up to put the subs in your mouth, that means your in enough withdrawl and will most likely not have a bad reaction to it. Good luck. The only thing thats really bothering me are my legs, they feel like jello. As long as Im sitting Im good, but it kinda sucks to stand or walk. And also the sub tastes HORRIBLE! Hold your nose as long as you can while its under your tounge!

I am here to say that i successfully switched to suboxone from methadone at 70 mg only detoxing for 24 hours and it was awesome! didn't even break a sweat. So, to all those posts that say you HAVE to come down to 30 mg... NO YOU DON'T It was SO EASY and now, I feel great. Methadone sucks make the switch!!! but again everyone is different but if you search around and find a good doctor they will make sure you are in NO pain when you leave that office! I heard horror stories about going from methadone to suboxone that are completely false. Didn't happen to me and I was so scared. Got scared over nothing.

please let me know how that turned out for you. Im planning to go down to10mgs of methadone then suboxine but I want more opinions. Thanks for your help in advance.

for me snorting a quarter of a suboxone 8mg works the saame as putting a whole pill under your tounge. i know everyone will cry and moan about snorting but if you cant the way over priced pills this helps a little same works for the strips but i shoot them. it dosent make me sick to do either one of these it just works better. no i am not trying to get high just trying to save money i cant get high off suboxone no matter how much i take and making one pill/strip last 4 days is good i have no insurance and cant pay $300 for the doctor and $14 a pill

I just switched from methadone to suboxone today!Today is Monday 6:30 pm est. I took 80mg of meth on thursday and 40 on Friday at 4am. I waited over 80 hours from my last dose and just took my 8mg of suboxone about 2hours ago. I feel fine. I was worried that I would get sick because I wasn't even withdrawling bad at all!. I thought that I would be sick all weekend but I wasn't. I was really suprised at how long the methadone lasted. I have been on it for 5years and was ready to get off, but just know that its too bad to do cold turkey. So i dosed 40mg friday 4am and went to work, I went sat and sun and almost all day monday and wasnt feeling too bad @ 4pm monday. minor wd symptoms..... and took the suboxone and that was over 2hrs ago and im not sick. So just put enuff time between the meth and you will be fine! good luck! Methadone really helped me, but I never reallized how hard it is to get off of. Its harder than heroin or any other drug to get off of. So if U can do it, just be sick for a few days instead of getting onto meth, its VERY HARD to get off of and the withdrawls are supposedly wicked! Thank God I didnt have to go thru that. !! GOD BLESS

okay-I guess everyone has different experiences-so here's mine...I was 26yrs old and had been hooked on taking at least 300 percocets per month, prescribed for me by my family doctor for about 3 or 4yrs. Usually I would take like up to 60 a DAY! Then I'd run out, and thus went the roller-coaster of being in constant withdrawal-until my next script:( I was told about methadone from someone I knew and I went right on it. It saved me and my kidneys from shutting down completely. However, I did not know the stigma associated with being on it. But it did give me some semblance of a functional life back. The side effects are not good though....super sugar cravings-ice-cream in women was a BIG one cause I was never heavy and after 2yrs of being on methadone-i gained like 70lbs!!! Also, the constant constipation, the excessive sweats, your teeth rotting from the inside out, (i had like 5 root canals!) and your lack of complete freedom-each Friday I had to go get my carries and see the doctor. I am proud to say that after 7 YEARS-at the age of 33-I am OFF of methadone:) My highest dose was 90mgs for 2 yrs then slowly tapered down to 55mgs where i stayed for 3yrs. I found that splitting my doses worked to get me down even farther. When I came down to 55mgs-I lost ALL the extra weight too:) I made up my ming then to just get off of it. When you actually research what it does to your body over time (or just look around you at the others who have been on it long term) you will feel an incredible desire to resolve to get off it NO MATTER WHAT! It is ONLY when this happens, and your mind is made up-that you will be successful going off of it. So-every 2 weeks i came down either 5mgs or 3mgs....until I was at 3mgs....then i just stopped. I prepared myself with a little kit that included: immodium (for diahreah) gravol (for upset stomache&sleeplessness) I also was prescribed lorazapam 1mg(for anxiety)and cloniphine(for leg-cramps i think) but found it knocked me out and didnt like it. I cannot stress how important it is to also have a daily MULTI-VITAMIN that includes all your MINERALS....and to have some "Ensure" or "Boost" meal-replacement drinks on hand. Pro-biotic yogurt and bananas are also essential. I have just managed my symptoms and it IS bearable! I am now almost a month OFF of methadone and I feel myself getting BETTER everyday. It is so nice to have regular bowel movements(daily) and to have for once, a clear mind. I am sleeping more at night now and feel like i have the MOST energy in the morning:)So dont give up! Be good to yourself! Take nice long hot baths with EPSOM salts-it also helps with the leg pain you are bound to feel for a while. Also get a heating pad for sore leg or back-pain, cause it DOES help quite a bit surprisingly enough. Dont try to do too much and enlist the support of friends and/or family for at least 2wks if you have young children. My daughter is 8yrs old and is SO glad Im off it-she helps me a lot:) Good luck and take care:)

What an absolutly amazing mother you are. Coming from a junkie with another very rare parental supporter. Hang in there..we really do love and appreciate you.