im not replying to any specific posts on this page, i just wanted to share my experience with suboxone/sebutex. i have been taking/snorting pills for over a year now (i know thats not as long as some of you but whatever) and my the end of it i was taking over 200mg of oxys a day and thats a lot for me (im a lil girl 5'6 115 lbs haha) and then i got sebutex and i actually started taking it about 12 hours or so from my last dose of oxys which was 90 mg i think haha and i was ABSOLUTELY fine! nothing bad happened at all considering i should have waited a bit but its the best thing. i know that im going to be able to quit these dreadful, money wasting pills. and actually i got high from it and im feeling great, my back doesnt even hurt!! 3 days down with no narcotics..on the road to being sober. so i really hope this helps someone out there thats similar to me bc all the posts that i read helped me. good luck to everyone that wants to quit!! you can do it.
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help! to any one out there who can give us some advice...my hubby is on suboxone and feels like c**p. hes 3 weeks into getting off of vicodin, xanax, soma addiction and so far, other that we cant afford it, he thinks that the doc is pushing him to take the suboxone because he has favoritism for the pharmisutical company... please share your experiences with us at *****
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But ultram isnt opiate free.
You are taking tramadol. It's still an opiate. That's why you only had a runny nose... Suboxone doesn't give u to much of an effect but it still makes ou feel bad if you dont have it. So I do not like it
OMG! I have been so afraid to try Suboxone to kick my habit. In the meanwhile... i've spent an uncountable amount of money, easily in the thousands of dollars just to feel "normal" with oxys. When I took the Suboxone in the doctors office this morning... I couldn't stop giggling and laughing. By no means was I trying or wanting to get high from the Suboxone... but it happened. I just wanted to feel normal. Anyways... the fact of the matter is... SUBOXONE works! I was so friggin sceptical! "What's a CIII going to do for me?!" Well, surprise, surprise! One dose, and I was fine all day! It feels good, knowing that my paychecks belong to ME now, and not my drug dealer "friends".
Good luck one and all, and if you're thinking about a drug treatment for addiction, I recommend Suboxone, hands down. Don't keep wasting your money on the street trying to get your next hit just to feel "normal" again.
Good luck one and all, and if you're thinking about a drug treatment for addiction, I recommend Suboxone, hands down. Don't keep wasting your money on the street trying to get your next hit just to feel "normal" again.
I am a recovering heroin/opiate addict. I went on the methadone maintence program in December bc i found out i was pregnant and that was the only other option i had other than using. So after I had my daughter i wanted to detox off methadone and get on the suboxone only mainly bc my husband is on it {suboxone} and he's done awsome with it. Anyways I was on 60 mg. of MD and they had to detox me down to 30mg before they would put me on the suboxone. Last wed. was my last dose at 40 mg. and thurs. and fri. i didnt' go get dosed because the sub. doctor said not too. So they were going to put me on subutex first for 2 weeks because of the methadone still being in my system and as some of u know the main difference between subutex and suboxone is subutex does not have the NARCAN in it which is a opiate blocker, so it would not send me into withdraws when i took it, BUT when i got to the doc. office another doc. was working and wrote my script out for SUBOXONE instead. When i told her what the other doc. said about putting me on the subutex first she said i would be okay because my last dose of MD was 40 mg and i hadnt taken any for 2 days {because its critical that u get down to 30 mg of MD before starting suboxone}.So i trused what she said and went ahead and took the subs. Let me be the first to tell u, WAIT AS LONG AS U CAN TO TAKE THE SUBOXONE IF YOUR COMING OFF MEHTADONE. It sent me into straight withdraw, making me feel like i was literally dying. Never in my life even coming off heroin made me feel like this. It lasted about 48 hrs. Now 5 days off the methadone I am just now starting to feel "better". It really does work, but u got to want it. As for how long it stays in your system i am still testing dirty for MD as of today, a doctor once told me MD can stay in your system up to 8 weeks, dont really know the real answer to that everyone has a different one. I also want to quickly comment on the person who is taking ULTRAM, just a little advice the number one side effect from this nasty drug is SEIZURES, and believe me this is true, not only did my husband have one but so did my sister and brother in law and we know several of our friends that has had them too. Yes it was being abused but what drug addicts dont abuse opiates??? Just be very careful, its very very scary to see someone u love go through something like that. Hope my expierence and suggestions helps all of u any further questions please feel free to email me at _[removed]_ and i will try to help in anyway that i can.
Let me give you a little of my insight. I have an older sibling who is an addict, and is currently on suboxone, and has since "taken herself off", and removed herself from the care of her physician. Good luck to her on that...
I completely understand the pain that you feel from a bulging disc. Don't start taking pain meds now. Do the nerve blocks. If you don't have coverage for the nerve block, go for surgery if it hurts that much. I know this sounds extreme, but if you care about your 9 month old baby, that is more of a reason not to take drugs. I dealt with a bulging disc, only thinking I was in pain. I work in the operating room, lifting heavy patients and heavy instrument trays. It is very hard work, then I would go home to take care of my then 18 month old child. He is a special needs child, so it wasn't much different than caring for a 9 month old, only heavier and more difficult to pickup and carry. Never once did I ever take anything more than over the counter medication like percogesic, and that was only on the days that I thought is was really bad. Little did I know, that pain was nothing. I went through three nerve blocks (one every four months). If you only have a bulging disc, a nerve block should work, or maybe you need to see a different pain management doctor. Within two years I went from having a bulging disc, to having severe spinal stenosis. I couldn't sit, stand, walk, or anything without continuous excruciating pain. When it got to the point I couldn't walk up two steps to get on my front porch, and I couldn't get in my vehicle or lean out to close the door, I called my doctor again. That is when the 2nd MRI was completed. I just turned 40 this year, and less than 4 months after my 40th birthday I was told that I have the spine of a 70 year old. I have always been very active and healthy. I have always visited the gym 5 to 6 days a week, and never been overweight, because I ate right and exercised. So, it wasn't my weight causing me to have back pain. By the time I went to the doctor because of the pain, I only had 20mm of space in my spinal canal, and I had a slipped and shifted disc because the facet (joint) was pressing so hard against the spinal cord. The joints in my back are degenerating, and I had very intense pain. The only thing that would help me is a PLIF (posterior lumbar interbody fusion). I now have rods and screws in my back, fused at L-4/5. Only one week prior to my surgery did I EVER take anything more than what I could get over the counter. Believe me, I felt pain, but it was not worth it to me to allow myself to get addicted, and I had a prescription. Now I have to continue to strengthen the core muscles to keep the pain level down. My point to you is, you can strengthen your core muscles, without having to do any type of heavy lifting. If you strenthen your core, you will have the stability of your spine that you need. There was nothing I could do for my back, but post surgical I can do everything possible in that respect, without taking drugs. I was given a script when I came home. I took it religiously every six hours as directed to keep the pain away, for about 4 weeks. I have had several surgical procedures that I had no choice in, so I know pain, and they were nothing like dealing with a spinal fusion. After those four weeks, I got off the meds. When I feel pain, and it's just too much to deal with, I take Robaxin. It is for musculoskeletal pain, and is more like motrin. You feel no effects, except for a little help in reduction of pain.
take it from someone who knows pain, and also has to feel the emotional pain of watching a family member who is an addict, and she has children. It's bad enough to be an addict, but to put this kind of life on children, is simply horrible, and it affects everything they do for the rest of their lives. Don't you want to be a mother to your child? You can't do that if you are messed up on drugs. I'm not saying it isn't okay to take pain meds sometimes, but if you feel yourself getting hooked.... get off them now. You want your children to grow up and continue to have respect for you as their mother. They will lose all respect for you if they end up having to take care of you because of what could be an addiction, if you allow it to happen.
The bottom line is to just have wisdom. I'm not saying it isn't okay to take your pain meds. I'm not even saying you don't hurt. I know the pain you feel, but have to be the one to measure the pain, and be honest with yourself, or you will do yourself and your family who lives with you an injustice if you become addicted. That is a long hard row to hoe, and, trust me, you don't want to try it, if you have never been down that row. It is no fun for anyone in your life. Addiction affects the whole family... that includes spouse, children, siblings, neices/nephews, and elderly parents. You can/may lose everything you have, and ultimately end up alone. Becasue if you become addicted and decide you like your meds more than your family, they will have no choice but to turn the other way until you end up killing yourself, Lord forbid, or getting yourself out of that horrible place of addiction that you could be in. I know it sounds drastic, but I have watched someone I love for too long, and I would hate to see it happen to anyone else, whether I know you or not.
Find yourself a good doctor. I don't know your name, but I know God's healing power. He has more power than any drug. I will place you on the prayer list with the elders of my church.
God Bless,
I completely understand the pain that you feel from a bulging disc. Don't start taking pain meds now. Do the nerve blocks. If you don't have coverage for the nerve block, go for surgery if it hurts that much. I know this sounds extreme, but if you care about your 9 month old baby, that is more of a reason not to take drugs. I dealt with a bulging disc, only thinking I was in pain. I work in the operating room, lifting heavy patients and heavy instrument trays. It is very hard work, then I would go home to take care of my then 18 month old child. He is a special needs child, so it wasn't much different than caring for a 9 month old, only heavier and more difficult to pickup and carry. Never once did I ever take anything more than over the counter medication like percogesic, and that was only on the days that I thought is was really bad. Little did I know, that pain was nothing. I went through three nerve blocks (one every four months). If you only have a bulging disc, a nerve block should work, or maybe you need to see a different pain management doctor. Within two years I went from having a bulging disc, to having severe spinal stenosis. I couldn't sit, stand, walk, or anything without continuous excruciating pain. When it got to the point I couldn't walk up two steps to get on my front porch, and I couldn't get in my vehicle or lean out to close the door, I called my doctor again. That is when the 2nd MRI was completed. I just turned 40 this year, and less than 4 months after my 40th birthday I was told that I have the spine of a 70 year old. I have always been very active and healthy. I have always visited the gym 5 to 6 days a week, and never been overweight, because I ate right and exercised. So, it wasn't my weight causing me to have back pain. By the time I went to the doctor because of the pain, I only had 20mm of space in my spinal canal, and I had a slipped and shifted disc because the facet (joint) was pressing so hard against the spinal cord. The joints in my back are degenerating, and I had very intense pain. The only thing that would help me is a PLIF (posterior lumbar interbody fusion). I now have rods and screws in my back, fused at L-4/5. Only one week prior to my surgery did I EVER take anything more than what I could get over the counter. Believe me, I felt pain, but it was not worth it to me to allow myself to get addicted, and I had a prescription. Now I have to continue to strengthen the core muscles to keep the pain level down. My point to you is, you can strengthen your core muscles, without having to do any type of heavy lifting. If you strenthen your core, you will have the stability of your spine that you need. There was nothing I could do for my back, but post surgical I can do everything possible in that respect, without taking drugs. I was given a script when I came home. I took it religiously every six hours as directed to keep the pain away, for about 4 weeks. I have had several surgical procedures that I had no choice in, so I know pain, and they were nothing like dealing with a spinal fusion. After those four weeks, I got off the meds. When I feel pain, and it's just too much to deal with, I take Robaxin. It is for musculoskeletal pain, and is more like motrin. You feel no effects, except for a little help in reduction of pain.
take it from someone who knows pain, and also has to feel the emotional pain of watching a family member who is an addict, and she has children. It's bad enough to be an addict, but to put this kind of life on children, is simply horrible, and it affects everything they do for the rest of their lives. Don't you want to be a mother to your child? You can't do that if you are messed up on drugs. I'm not saying it isn't okay to take pain meds sometimes, but if you feel yourself getting hooked.... get off them now. You want your children to grow up and continue to have respect for you as their mother. They will lose all respect for you if they end up having to take care of you because of what could be an addiction, if you allow it to happen.
The bottom line is to just have wisdom. I'm not saying it isn't okay to take your pain meds. I'm not even saying you don't hurt. I know the pain you feel, but have to be the one to measure the pain, and be honest with yourself, or you will do yourself and your family who lives with you an injustice if you become addicted. That is a long hard row to hoe, and, trust me, you don't want to try it, if you have never been down that row. It is no fun for anyone in your life. Addiction affects the whole family... that includes spouse, children, siblings, neices/nephews, and elderly parents. You can/may lose everything you have, and ultimately end up alone. Becasue if you become addicted and decide you like your meds more than your family, they will have no choice but to turn the other way until you end up killing yourself, Lord forbid, or getting yourself out of that horrible place of addiction that you could be in. I know it sounds drastic, but I have watched someone I love for too long, and I would hate to see it happen to anyone else, whether I know you or not.
Find yourself a good doctor. I don't know your name, but I know God's healing power. He has more power than any drug. I will place you on the prayer list with the elders of my church.
God Bless,
Guest wrote:
The methadone withdrawals start after 3 or 4 days and then get worse up until about the 30th day. It's alot better to withdrawal a little for 2 days than 30 days. If your dr is good she can give you meds to help the symptoms of the withdrawals and make the 2 days less horrible. Its worth it I tried to stop methadone like 10 times in 4 years and I never made it past the 7th day. right not i am on my 6th day of suboxone withdrawals and its nothing compared to methadone withdrawals.
medhelpman85 wrote:
if you take suboxone while methadone is in your system it will put you in immediate withdrawl. reason: the agonist in suboxone saturates the opiate recepters, if there is methadone already on those receptors than part of the suboxone dose will waste itself pushing the methadone of the receptor i.e. immediate withdrawl. and then there is not enough suboxone left to take its place. Ex. if you take 16 mgs of suboxone but still have methadone in your system than 10 mgs (depending on amount of methadone your on) just forces the methadone out of your system which will feel like instant withrawl
then there is only 6 mgs of suboxone left which is not enough to help a regular methadone withdrawl let alone a forced instant one...DONT DO IT!!!!
(all dose info was just for example purposes and based on the max suboxone dose your dose may be different.)
I AM LOOKING TO KICK METHADONE. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A DUMB QUESTION, BUT THIS ONE MAY SOUND STUPID: WHY WOULD I NOT WANT TO TAKE SUBOXONE AND SIMPLY INITIATE THE WITHDRAWAL PERIOD INSTANTLY, RATHER THAN WAITING FOR 3 TO 4 DAYS FOR THE WITHDRAWAL TO BEGIN? I WANT TO GET THE WITHDRAWAL PERIOD OVER QUICKLY, AND I'D RATHER HAVE IT START SOONER THAN LATER. WHAT DO YOU THINK A BOUT THAT?
The methadone withdrawals start after 3 or 4 days and then get worse up until about the 30th day. It's alot better to withdrawal a little for 2 days than 30 days. If your dr is good she can give you meds to help the symptoms of the withdrawals and make the 2 days less horrible. Its worth it I tried to stop methadone like 10 times in 4 years and I never made it past the 7th day. right not i am on my 6th day of suboxone withdrawals and its nothing compared to methadone withdrawals.
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I have been on methadone for 15 yrs and recently decided it was time to stop dragging that ball and chain around. I took my last dose of methadone 5 days ago (about 10 mg). I began suboxone yesterday. My doc told me to start with one 8 mg three times a day. So that is what I am doing. Aside from post acute withdrawal, (sleeplessness, anxiety, pacing, racing thoughts, lack of concentration)the physical discomfort has been minimal, except for the runs to the john. Can anyone tell me if they think this Iis alot of sub to be taking to start the detox process? THANKS
I JUST WANTED SOME PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT SUBOXONE IS NOT ONLY FOR HERION USE ITS ALSO FOR PILL USE AS WELL. i AM ON IT AND I THINK IT WORKS GREAT I FUNCTION GREAT AND YES THE DR. CAN GET YOU OFF THEM TOO WHICH IS GREAT. BUT IF YOU DO ABUSE THEM EHRN YOU RUN OUT YOU WILL GO THROUGH WITHDRAWL.
I am taking dui classes and they require random drug tests in the form of urine tests. I have had an addiction to opiates for quite some time now, but am trying to get off of them via methadone. my question is, does methadone show up on a urine test? I imagine they are only testing for the more popular drugs such as marijuana, opiates, cocaine, ect. I've heard that for them to test for methadone, they have to use a specific test that usually costs a good amount of money. With this is mind, I am required to pay for the random drug tests, which is a cost of $15, so I am guessing that this will not include screening for methadone. My plan was to stop using opiates 4 or 5 days before i might have to take a test, and stick to methadone to avoid the horrendous feelings of withdrawals. Please let me know if I will be okay to take methadone to avoid the withdrawals and still be in the clear for my drug tests
YES IT DOES SHOW UP. IF U HAVE BEEN TAKING THE METHADONE EVERYDAY GOODLUCK TRYING 2 STOP TAKING IT.
I have been on methadone for a while actually i took it on the streets then got into a clinic which i have been going for about a year im trying to go down to get on suboxone but im kinda worried cause i actually can take almost up to 500mg of methadone but at my clinic iam down to 70mg anyways im just scared that i will get on it and feel worse after reading all these storys i mean i know if i want it bad enough it will happen but i just dont want to go back to abusing anything due to feeling like sh*t! also me and my husband have been trying to have a baby for a while now can methadone effect that? i have read that it actually can make u more fertile which i dont see how????
while I agree with most of this post the only thing different for me was the wait time to transfer over. my last dose was on a friday at 2pm. i took my first Suboxone the next morning at 7am. I was in full withdrawals and was on just 30mg of Methadone a day for a decade for severe back pain. if i had waited 4 days i would have had to go to the hospital! i do not know how that is possible. either way, Methadone is the worst. the suboxone still has it drawbacks......ie. constant body pain especially in the calves.
Regarding the person or persons talking about how bad Methadone is and scared the hell out of everyone who is looking into taking it, I want to say that I was very leary of taking it at first. I had a bad addiction to Loratab and Soma because of two ruptured disks in my spine. Methadone has saved my life. I started on and still am on a very small dose, 10 mg 2xdaily. After about two weeks, I started to realize that I had never felt better. At first the Methadone did make me very sleepy but that passed after about a week or so. Now I am able to actually move again without any pain and no cravings to take the other MUCH more dangerous drugs.
Of course there is a chance of addiction with any medication, Suboxone, Methadone, Lortab, even Advil or Aleve. It is about moderation, taking it for the correct reasons and not abusing it and being completely honest with your doctors and being supervised by them.
Do NOT be afraid to take Methadone if you want to try it. I have had a deformatity in my back for 20 years and in the past 7 it has done nothing but gotten worse. I got addicted from the meds that my previous doctor had given me and continually upping the dose without thinking about what would treat the problem, not only the pain. My pain management doctor has been terrific and I was able to get off all the pain meds and the Methadone has be amazing. It is YOUR responsibility to be responsible. But please, dont be scared to try it if you feel it will help.
PS. One more plus, Methadone is covered by insurance or Medicaid, Suboxone is NOT and is EXTREMELY expensive.
Of course there is a chance of addiction with any medication, Suboxone, Methadone, Lortab, even Advil or Aleve. It is about moderation, taking it for the correct reasons and not abusing it and being completely honest with your doctors and being supervised by them.
Do NOT be afraid to take Methadone if you want to try it. I have had a deformatity in my back for 20 years and in the past 7 it has done nothing but gotten worse. I got addicted from the meds that my previous doctor had given me and continually upping the dose without thinking about what would treat the problem, not only the pain. My pain management doctor has been terrific and I was able to get off all the pain meds and the Methadone has be amazing. It is YOUR responsibility to be responsible. But please, dont be scared to try it if you feel it will help.
PS. One more plus, Methadone is covered by insurance or Medicaid, Suboxone is NOT and is EXTREMELY expensive.