In my opinion methadone is still a better way to go since methadone clinics are here to help you and from what i understand some doctors are just trying to get rich off of prescribing suboxone. I had to pay in excess of $400 dollars to start suboxone treatement with the only doctor in my town that would prescirbe it. I was told that they didn't take insurance so I had to pay $100 dollars in cash for each doctors visit plus the ungodly costs of the suboxone which i calculated is (at my pharmacy at least) around $6 dollars a pill. When the doctor learned that I had insurance because my pharamcy tried to get a prior authorization on the suboxone, he discharged me as a patient. I told him that any methadone clinic would detox somebody first before discharging them but he told me to go to a rehab and hung up!! People say that the withdrawl form suboxone isn't supposed to be as bad but for me it was horrible and landed me in the hospital from dehydration. Methadone is subsidized by the government; suboxone is not....so unless your independently wealthy i wouldn't recommend it, also at clinics you often receive counseling but I got the feeling all this doctor cared about was money.
methadone clinics are only in it for the money too. i've been on methadone for 9 yrs & it seems like everytime i've tried to taper off they came up with some excuse to keep me there. why? because they don't want to lose that money, not because they care. if you don't have the money to pay for your dose they just throw you out. thats not what people who care do. finally i have a good counselor who does care & she's telling me that i should try suboxone because alot of her long term patients have switched & they are doing so much better with suboxone.
i agree 100% with this post. i know 2 people who tapered off suboxone and they both said it was a cake walk compared to methadone or oc's
I agree with most people here, sub is a way out and a way out that you i can still be with my family! I was on pain pills for about a year but in that year I was so addicted that I couldnt even fix food for my kids without pills, that is so sad! I regret the day I took my first pain pill but I thank God everyday for giving me a way out. I have been on sub for about 2 years now and a couple times I had to do without it for a couple days and the most I had was a runny nose! From what I have heard about methadone, it is just as bad as taking pain pills! Good luck to everyone out there that took the first step to recovery, it takes alot of strength that some people just don't have but we did it! ;-)
Guest wrote: I know all to well the medical circle that ends up at the curb. Do know that you are still an okay person even though you have an addiction. I have a very bad back and became addicted to my pain killers. This went on for 2 and a half years before my doctor kicked me to the curb. He wasn't really any other help with other options other than writting the almighty prescription.Once my family pulled my ass away from the curb before I was nearly sucked down the gutter, a doctor from OATC started me on 2mg of suboxone after 24 hours from the last use of any opiate. I had to wait 1 hour at the clinic to make sure I did not go into severe withdrawal. When I didn't I left and returned 24 hours later and because I was exhibiting some mild withdrawal such as higher than noemal blood pressore, a nagging headache and generaluized body aches I was up'd to 8mgs a day which stopped all withdrawal symptoms with in an hour. Two weeks later I was craving a lot so the doctor up'd my dosage to 10mg a day. It is amazing at substance craving control. As far a pain control well since it takes months for drugs to be metabolized from our tissues I am not sure what role the suboxone has been playing in my life other than I didn't have pain. Until 1 week ago I hurt my back again and the pain is excruciating and the suboxone is not helping. Yet if it is helping in pain control that scares me to think what kind of pain I may be in and what I would be doing to get rid of the pain if the suboxone wasn't available. I do not want to go back on the addiction cycle. I know I am an addict but I don't need to be an active addict. I want so bad to take some Morphine to get of the pain for awhile but I don;t want to be kicked off the program si I wiil wait until Friday till I see the doctor and see if he ups the suboxone in dosage for paincontrol or add a painkiller.
hello,been on two years ready to come off.Currently on 4mg.whats the best way to get off.Doctor loves my money.help....
Methadone is not nearly as potent as Suboxone nor is the half-life of Methadone as long as Suboxone. Suboxone is more convenient than is Methadone in most cases and is difficult to abuse or inject. One of the problems with Suboxone is that it has a long half-life. If you decide to withdrawal it has to be no more than 2mg every 6 days until you get to 1mg. At that point its1mg every 6 days then 1/2 mg every 6 days. Coming off just 2 mgs of Suboxone can easily feel like coming off 24 mgs. It's so potent because it binds to the mu receptor in the brain better than any other narcotic known but only if it is injected because Suboxone degrades if taken orally. That's why you have to put it under the tongue. If swallowed it would do nothing virtually. Buprenorphine (Subutex) (Suboxone) are only taken into the body sublingually. If you injected it however, 2mg would kill you instantly. That's why it's designed the way it is. It's absorbed slowly and not entirely either but what does get absorbed is very strong. All other narcotics are absorbed through the intestines with a few uncommercial exceptions.
TO GUEST......ULTRAM...AKA....TRAMADOL IS ADDICTING TOO, SO THAT IS WHY YOU PROBABLY WAS NOT HAVING BAD WITHDRAWLS....
I just want to share my hell. I have been on Subs for 2yrs now and I want to get off. I tried my own way by using Heroin for 8 days straight then I got back on suboxone for the heroin withdrawal which did not work, right now I dont know what the hell im withdrawlin from but I sure as hell got back on the subs. I thought I could just take the subs for 4 days the quit altogether but it did not quite work out that way. I wish I never ever started taking suboxone its just another substitute for opiates.
Actually, some insurance covers a portion of the Subozone; however, it is very limited. And you can search online for additional help in covering the cost, i.e. National Prescription Savings Network and others.
I recently got off the methadone (it was not easy after 10+ yrs) to begin the Suboxone treatment. I do not feel like the Suboxone helps my pain as well as the Methadone did; however, my doctor did not give me any choice. I hope that, with time, the Suboxone will do a better job of managing my pain. I'm also praying that soon we will have a generic version of the drug to help with the cost.
You must be down to at least 40ml/mg before you can switch to suboxone.
It always amazes me when people who haven't actually withdrawn from heroin say that something else (like Ultram) is as bad as withdrawing from heroin.
i was on methadone for alomost five yrs my dose was 161 mg but i took up to 600 mgs a day its been seven mths and im stiill in withdrawls and im im on subox's my advice stay the hell away from methadone!!!!!!1
do some damn research^ ultram is a completely synthetic opiod, it has no affinity for true opiate receptors whatsoever. it simply hits your non-ephedrine and serotonin receptors to create a synthetic opiate effect. Upon stopping use you may feel depressed and or some sort of withdrawal but not true opiate withdrawal. To say it is comparable to heroin or any true opiate is honestly an insult to people that have truly suffered through it. Getting off of Ultram is like stopping your antidepressant,
Sorry, I did not mean to push the exclamation mark button!