Well, a week ago a noticed with my tongue a little hole in the meat between a bottom of my gums and the lip -inside of the mouth. A four days later I checked if it is healing and to my terror I saw a hole - a deep pocket on the side of my gum, really deep and in a different place. I went to a dental surgeon. He said that he never saw anything like this. He said it is an anomaly. -I do not believe in anomalies. Never had them before. Today, 3 days later I have 4 holes in my gums. I am freaking out. Anybody else?
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There are also non-intoxicating options available. But the problem is to find a healthcare professional for to do it.
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Hey! It sounds like we are in a very similar situation. I have Cystinuria and I'm assuming you have the same or something similar. I know people who are prescribed subs and I also know people with the same kidney disease, but never met someone with both (such as myself).If you ever have time I would love to have the opportunity to chat a little about our similarities. thank you!!
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If there happens to be an update on this please COUNT MR IN, I can always be reached
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Can I chat with you? I have been taking Bupernorphine for 7 yrs. 3 of those yrs. were Suboxone/Subutex.
Thank You,
Ryan Mohr
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PREFACE: I HAVE A LAWYER ALREADY WHO IS WORKING ON A CLASS-ACTION LAWSUIT. IF YOU WISH TO BE A PART OF IT, PLEASE CONTACT ME!!! (see below)
I was prescribed Suboxone by my pain management doctor many years ago and I took 3-8mg tablets per day for over 3 years. I didn't notice the decay until the latter half of the 3rd year. Until then, I just thought it was normal dental work that I needed to have done and I hadn't been seeing my dentist regularly. When I came in for that latest exam, my dentist was floored to see something he had never seen before. He said it was as if my enamel was being destroyed from the inside out. He asked me about the drugs I was taking and I mentioned Suboxone and while still sitting in the dentist chair, I looked up Suboxone on my smartphone. I was shocked to find multiple sites mentioning a connection between Suboxone and enamel destruction.
Now, let me preface this by saying that I'm well aware of the usual "excuse" that's offered about how all opiates cause "dry mouth" and Suboxone is especially bad in that regard, but I had been taking opiates for over 8 years prior to this for a chronic lower back issue and I had already been doing many things to resolve the 'dry mouth' issue. So I will fervently argue with anyone who dismisses off-hand the destructive consequences of Suboxone use. I have noticed in my research that it really tends to affect those who have taken it for a year or more. I took it for 3 years and at a high dosage due to my high tolerance.
Over the course of the next few years, my teeth began to destroy themselves from the inside out. After that revealing dentist appointment, I went to the extreme in my dental care. I got the best Sonicare toothbrush I could buy, started using Crest 'Clinical' toothpaste, Crest 'Clinical' mouthwash, I was doing everything in my power to protect my teeth. But the Suboxone had already started to do its damage and it was not going to be stopped. Four years later and I have only 5 teeth remaining and every single one of them is severely damaged. I have no front teeth (top or bottom) which drastically effects even my ability to enunciate properly and I can't sing either. I can't smile, I don't dare try to go out on dates, it's had as much of an emotional/mental impact on me as it has a physical one. And I place the blame squarely at the feet of the RX company that made it and my pain doctor. I re-examined all the documentation on the drug and there is absolutely no mention about potential enamel decay. They mention the typical "dry mouth" issue which is associated with ALL opiates. But I firmly believe that because Suboxone is taken sublingually, its potential for destruction is vastly increased. The manufacturer does state that Suboxone is not designed for long-term usage, something my pain doctor failed to mention. But since they don't state that long-term usage will result in the loss of nearly all your teeth, it's fair to say that the doctor wasn't properly informed and neither was I.
I already have a lawyer who is looking into this for me. I have no dental insurance and as a single parent on low income, I won't ever be able to afford the tens of thousands it would take to do even full dentures, least of all implants (or a combination of the two) which I firmly believe is the least the RX company can do in restitution for the damage their drug caused me. I'm not interested in fighting for punitive damages, even though because of the emotional/mental damage the loss of my teeth has caused (and potentially the loss of the love of my life. ) I would be justified in asking for it. But my main goal is simply to get them to pay for the restoration of my teeth.
If you have a story of your own and want to join me in the class action suit (or have one of your own you wish me to join) then please contact me ASAP.
Good luck to all of us.
~Mark
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Yes Yes...this as****e above clearly has no clue. My girlfriend has been taking sub for three years after becoming dependent on opiates after a seriously painful and life threatening complicated pregnancy...her teeth have begun to deteriorate and her pain is so horrible that it literally makes me cry just watching her go thru it. Her teeth were perfect before sub and now she looks like a meth head and I am absolutely furious and truthfully scared to death. She has a solid case of depression and this is just driving her faster and faster over the cliff towards suicide! I want to see a lawsuit asap because our poor selves will never be able to get the bill for her dental repair payed off...literally never! Praying won't help but I am doing it several times a day!
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I am terrified . I get it. I am tapering myself. 12mg then 8 then 4. At 2 mg it will be iffy and will have to do it carefully and under supervision.
Good luck to all of you. Get off this drug unless you can accept your teeth and hair going out. Find another way.
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