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This might sound like a long time and trust me it will feel 10 times longer but it will take 1 month for you to stop showing all symptoms.My honest and personal advice is to Drink alchol until you pass out at night that is one of the only ways to stay /go to asleep. Also Binzoes like Valumes exct... that will help during the day time ,drink lots of juice and take vitamins ,Walking will help you body replenish lost electroes.

PS i know i spelled half of this wrong IDFC sue me.
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Hi Everyone,
I do no have a history of long extended drug use. This is the virst time I've been on pain killers over an extended period.  Severe ankle surgery, 4 of them kept me on opiates for 16 months, I finally said, I'm done, I want off these things.  Couldn't plan anything, trips, work events out of town without having to wonder if I had enough pills to see me through.
Finally said, enough and the Dr. gave me Suboxene.  I'm now going off those, this is day 10 and I  felt better yesterday than I felt today.  No sleep, weak, ache, bathroom issues.  Depression is one bad feeling.  I cannot believe how long this is lasting....
Please believe that getting off this medication is no easy ride.......
Really investigate the pain of getting off this stuff, which was suppose to be the easy way to get off the other stuff....Yeah right, obviously my doctor doesn't have a clue....This is one tough thing to do, I do agree, it will get better, I'm not sure easier but better...
Don't fool yourself into thinking this is the lesser of the two.  I think withdrawl from this is worse than opiates...
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First of all, I want to wish everyone good luck - you are all doing an awesome job!  I'm on day 10 of withdrawal from Suboxone and I still am feeling the chills/muscle aches/insomnia/malaise,etc.  From the research that I've done (and which seems logical), the withdrawal schedule is shorter for shorter acting opioids.  There is a great website from the Queensland, Australia health department that shows many tapering schedules, in depth.  The site is: www.health.qld.gov.au/atod/documents/24904.pdf

I've been on Suboxone for 18 months (and pain medication, that was RX'd but I abused, for 17 years prior to ) and worked my way down from 16mg to 1mg but, as others have pointed out, buprenorphine is quite strong and long-acting.  Therefore, I'd expect the withdrawal, though different in everyone, to be 8-14 days.  I chose to use clonidine .1mg - .3mg, five times a day and that has helped tremendously.  Just remember to taper clonidine so not to have rebound hypertension.  My MD also prescribed lorazepam 1mg to take with the clonidine and we tried several different sleep agents: zolpidem, temazepam, then flurazepam - which, IMO, works the best, as it is a longer acting medication.

Keep hydrated and, though I know you don't feel like it, try to eat anything palatable.  For me, it was cereal.  Keep it up and Suboxone will be behind us all!

I wish you all the best!  
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Hello everybody! It sure is a big help to see im not the only one in this world going through this s@#t right now. I started taking suboxone back in 2006 after i decided to get off of vics, percs etc. Throughout the years i didnt want to stop taking it because i thought it was great. It made me feel great and more productive. I felt like i could do anything. There were a few times when I had to go without for a short while and only suffered mildly from withdrawls. Well, it wasnt until 8 days ago that I told myself it was time. I no longer had health insurance so i couldnt afford it any longer. I did not taper AT ALL, I stopped cold turkey anywhere from 8-16mg a day. Worst decision of my life!! I gave my family the heads up of what was to come. Day 1 off of subs was just some mild chills, more mental than anything else. Days 2 and 3 were a little more amplified with chills and some achyness. Days 4 and 5, not gonna lie, were some of the worst withdrawls I have ever gone through. I had restless legs, HORRIBLE pains in my arms, cold sweats, hot flashes, couldnt sleep for s@#t. Day 6, i no longer had horrible pains but i still had the chills and restless arms and legs, also the teary eyes and shaky voice. Day 7, I started to feel much better but still had no appetite and a little hot/cold flashes. Today is the end of day 8 for me and I can honestly say the worst is over. I still have minor cold flashes with brief periods of restlessness, but NOTHING i cant handle compared to days 4 and 5. While withdrawls can be very hard physically sometimes, its the mental aspect of it that really tends to break some people. You HAVE to have a strong support system. (Preferably someone who has gone through the same thing) like this website. A few things that I found to help with the wds is Diphenhydramine (Benadryl). This really helps with the restleness and insomnia. Another thing for restlesness is DXM (Dextromethorphan) cough medicine. You can also drink alcohol, i found that helped alot late at night. I read a post earlier saying that they took Adderall, I would not recommend that because Adderall hits alot of the same receptors as opiates and its just gonna start you all over. I know the last thing you want to do during wds is exercise, but if you force yourself to run or walk that helps immencely. Running/walking makes your body release endorphins, which is your bodys natural pain killer. This is why avid runners often get the "runners high". Well, i truly hope that this post helps out someone, even if its only one person i will be happy that i helped. God bless you all and hang in there guys/gals because "The juice is definitely worth the squeeze" i assure you.
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Hello,

I have been on Suboxone for about 2months, I tappered it off to .5 milligram per day, then i stopped taking anything for 5 days (felt like c**p the first 3 days, no sleep or eating, fuzzy head, then start feeling better, but still very week and tired), on day six and seven i toke 20 mg of Hydrocodone, day 8 didn't take anything (felt not too bad, just my muscles were soar, like when you work out after long time), and today, day 9, I woke up feelenf pretty good (not 100%, but not bad at all)

My question is: After 9 days without taking Suboxon, am I finally out of the withdrawls? (i am still afraid that they may come back...)

 

Thank you for response and your support, you are all fantastic.

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Thank you for sharing, I am on my 9th day without suboxon, and today was the firt day that i woke up almost feeling normal.
It is such a joyful feeling to know that i don't have to take anything to get through the day, and that it is only going to be tertter as time goes by. (although still a little scared that the withdawls could come back)

Keep it clean my friend, its just wonderful!
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I've been on suboxon for three years.this is my 3 rd day without it.to tell u the truth,I'm about to grab my 9 and put an end to this misery.I was miserable coming off opiates, but This is 100% worse.I hate my life.my body feels like I got run over,and have absolutely no energy.I heard 5Thoth day is worse.If that's the case,and I'm only on day 3,I don't know If I will be able to do this.it messes worth my emotions bad.it's hard to hold back the tears.people around me peobley tbink I'm exaggerating.I'm a strong person and like a challenge, but I'm about to take the easy way out.o ya.my SUBOXON Dr.cut me off cause I smoke pot.which I'm prescribed.how BS is that.....
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How high of a dose were you on when your doc cut you off? Please be strong, hang in there, let the time pass. I know time moves excruciatingly slowly when coming off opiates but before you know it, you will be past the rough part. Sunlight and exercise helps with the depression. I was addicted to opiates for 16 years and now I have been completely normal and drug free for almost a year now. I had no energy while withdrawing from subs either. I would force myself to get up and just walk to the end of my block (like a hospital patient or something), that was all I could do. Then do back home and rest and then walk again later. It sucked but it made me feel good to know that the sunlight was helping my mood, the exercise was boosting endorphins which helps with depression and by walking, I was getting my strength back little by little. And mentally, please try to stay on the positive side, it really is a choice. Think of your future and keep your eyes on the prize! A normal happy life!
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for the ppll here that have been on suboxone for a year or more i just wanted to suggest getting tapered off it as soon as possible. i have been on subs for appx 5 years and my doctor wouldnt taper me down so i said enough is enough and i decided to go to detox.  the truth of the matter is i am going to be straight with my withdrawal experience since everyone seems to tell what they read or what they heard. my withdrawal symptoms were the same for about two weeks straight: night sweats, restless legs, insomnia, fever, shaking, and i crave the taste more than i craved any kind of drug or food in my life. i know this drug is supposed to help ppl with severe addictions to opiates bud the truth is i would rather go through opiate withdrawal. my feelings are numb i cant get happy again myself without that extra pickup from the suboxone. hands down worst thing i ever did in my life was putting myself on suboxone: 25K in 5 years ive spent just to go to the doc and paying for the script w/o insurance. enough of my complaining and back to the real sh*t i am going on 40 days now with no change that i can feel physically or mentally. it seems like its never going to end. the last time i got off subs i went for 60 days and couldnt take it anymore. thoughts of suicide pops in my head here and there like taking my 40 cal and blowing a hole through the back of my skull to become free of this. even though ive never thought of harming myself or anyone in my life like that. im going to continue to fight the war in my head and learn from my mistakes.  i hope noone that reads this gets discouraged even tho u prolly will but this is the truth. sorry but it hurts. just know that when i get past this and u get past this u never have to feel this way again. i give props to ppl that beat heroin and other opiates but i have more respect to ppl that get off suboxone or methadone after years of daily use. we are strong enough to beat this. all in all i just wanted to say its easy to relapse and use again but when u think about it do u really want to go through this for the second third forth time etc. i know its not gonna happen for me .. keep fighting it gets better every day but its gonna take time and the more ur aware of that the better u will be. o and for all my pps out there that cant get out of their heads like me for example pick up hobbies read listen to music play with ur kids work out or whatever u need to do to keep ur mind off the withdrawal and cravings cuz thats the only thing that has been helpig me. dont let urself get trapped in ur own mind. lol im insane arent i . good luck to everyone and i hope u can stick it out cuz it will get better.

dip set real talk all day every day

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I am on day three, weened myself to .25 mil for 2 weeks... The wd's have kicked in full blast today... I have to say that the w.d. is better then the w.d. off of methadone, but they still suck... I am worried about work... I have taken two days off so far, and I have one more day off left... I know I will beat this, I have no doubt, I am just worried about the consequent... I am preparing for 7 days of total withdrawl, then I hope it gets better with each passing day... I will rather shoot myself then get back on this c**p, and waste the days I have suffered, I am strong and determined, but scared crapless, like everyone else... I promise when I am good... I will leave another message, hoping to give hope, which is hard to find sometimes... Stay Strong!
 
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YO! Best ish I've read in 18 pages! You've got a strong spirit and my story/situation/symptoms are nearly identical to your own. I've had double vision and hallucinations in the corners of my eyes cause I haven't slept in a couple weeks. SO MADDENING when you're INSANELY exhausted and still can't sleep. Def feel like I'm goin NUTS. I'm not giving in either and I'm never kickin this ish again. The detox/rehab docs have NO IDEA what they're in for (influx of sub patients, or night walkers, as I collectively refer to us all) over the next 2-5 years. I have a Ph. D. in Organic/Medicinal Chemistry and a Masters deg in Phychopharmacology (was clean for 13 years before relapsing and going on subs for 2.5 years) and I will do the research and get to the bottom of the sub detox + PAWS nightmare. The detox IS absolutely different than other (full agonist) opiate withdrawal, if not merely due to its mixed agonist/antagonst activity at the mu-opioid receptor. Anyhow, your drive is inspiring and I needed to hear that. Got a wife and kids and I haven't slept more than 1.5 hours for 19 days now. They detoxed me with methadone over 5 days and then I started to FREAK. Docs were so confused by my insomnia and they could not knock me out for more than an hour with ANYTHING. Refused to bring Ambien or any benzo home with me cause I'll eat them all, no doubt. I KNOW this will pass, as I can't imagine living the rest of my life like this, or dependent on mind altering substances either. Just not for me. Just wanted to thank you for writing. NEEDED to read that and I have friends goin through the same ish in rehab right now. TOTAL NIGHTMARE. I could write for DAYS on this topic cause I literally couldn't believe or rationalize what I was experiencing. Thanks again.
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YO, realtalkdipset420! Best stuff I've read in 18 pages! You've got a strong spirit and my story/situation/symptoms are nearly identical to your own. I've had double vision and hallucinations in the corners of my eyes cause I haven't slept in a couple weeks. SO MADDENING when you're INSANELY exhausted and still can't sleep. Def feel like I'm goin NUTS. I'm not giving in either and I'm never kickin this junk again. The detox/rehab docs have NO IDEA what they're in for (influx of sub patients, or night walkers, as I collectively refer to us all) over the next 2-5 years. I have a Ph. D. in Organic/Medicinal Chemistry and a Masters deg in Phychopharmacology (was clean for 13 years before relapsing and going on subs for 2.5 years) and I will do the research and get to the bottom of the sub detox + PAWS nightmare. The detox IS absolutely different than other (full agonist) opiate withdrawal, if not merely due to its mixed agonist/antagonst activity at the mu-opioid receptor. Anyhow, your drive is inspiring and I needed to hear that. Got a wife and kids and I haven't slept more than 1.5 hours/night for 19 days now. They detoxed me with methadone over 5 days and then I started to FREAK. Docs were so confused by my insomnia and they could not knock me out for more than an hour with ANYTHING. Refused to bring Ambien or any benzo home with me cause I'll eat them all, no doubt. I KNOW this will pass, as I can't imagine living the rest of my life like this, or dependent on mind altering substances either. Just not for me. Just wanted to thank you for writing. NEEDED to read that and I have friends goin through the same ish in rehab right now. TOTAL NIGHTMARE. I could write for DAYS on this topic cause I literally couldn't believe or rationalize what I was experiencing. Thanks again.
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Here's my two cents worth....you are all having WD because although you tapered down to a small dose per day, you were still taking it daily!!! I tapered, then started taking the smallest dose every other day, then every two, then every third day, THEN i stopped. Mild discomfort at worst that way. I have not missed work or wanted to take more subs.... Take advantage of the long half-life. It allows you to extend weening off for days, and it helps big time. I don't feel great, but nothing like I am reading here.

Good luck to all of you!!!!!!!!!

 

B.

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Listen I wanted to just put a post in because I am currently under a withdrawl state I am two weeks and four days in without subs I usto do 200 dollars of heroin a day and I was doing 24 Mgs of sub a day until I tapered down to 2 Mgs a day 2 years later I took the first 3 days off of work and my bones and muscles acked like holy hell but thank god I pushed through. Now I am back at work and I feel as if I just have a cold but sneeze 20 times in a half a day very annoying but I deserve it I assume I know it's Gunna keep getting better and my mental state is still I can do one hit of oxy and bang it one day and be fine but I won't. To be completly honest I won't... For now... Sad to say but you never know. I wish I was stronger but my life is shambles and I need to fill a void. Can I get some enlightenment of when I'll forget and just be "normal" again and stop hoping where it's x mas and the only thing I wish for is to be how can I go back in time to a reg. person
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Here is my story y'all I have abused narcotics for over 20 years now it started slow pill here pill there. But I liked them p***y darvocet. So when I would run out and be sick, I assumed it was the flu, never occured to me at 25 I am in withdrawals. Now after 15 years of this off and on, I get popped in the shoulder, needs surgery, pins, wires the works. Then oh man I discover the pain clinic and a Dr with. Jesus complex. He had did an assessment and since I do not drink or smoke I have no addictive qualities. HAH! He started me on 8 10/325 vicodin, or Bananas as I call em. 8 a day 80 mg! 5 years later I'm taking 30 of these things a day, I would take my 240 in about a week, then I would still my wives, who apparently isn't human because she has never had a problem. Then buy the rest . I went through 12000 vicodin in a year for around 60000 total. All that money. A car house pfft. Ok man I will answer just hold. One day I said f**k it and quit cold turkey. It was months of sheer he'll. Never woul I , well if your are reading this you know. They put me on suboxone. That was 3 years ago now 13 days ago I ghetto tapered. Stopped Friday Sunday I took 8 vicodin then 6 then 4 you get it then in four days I stopped those. Infelt bad since I agree with Chris the sneezing is horrible just over and severe umm intestinal probes That I cannot sleep tonight I took 2 mg plinking 8 mg tazanadine. Melatonin phergan and benedryl I slept from 9 to 12:30 every night 12:30 I testing under covers right now. Now man be strong it will take time to get right , just look for small things I will tell you will Not wake up tomorrow happy, but start out small find something that makes you laugh. And it will feel great to know it was you that laughed not the Drugs which will cheer you up, it did me any way , also exercise and hot water. I wish you luck brother. Be strong and remember this too shall pass. Hour at a time. Oh and music god keep your head full to keep the though out. I'm am rooting for all of you say a prayer or kill a chicken for me as well
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