Hello fellow humans, please allow me to write my take on this, just came here by accident, so might as well leave something as a thank you for giving me the opportunity to read it and experience your perspective.
We make excuses about things as a protective mechanism of holding on to them and justifing them instead of looking holistically at ourselves and learning.
Please consider this question: Why do i eat food?
Seariously, isnt it about gettin back the energy you have lost? When we eat foods that are difficult to digest we are putting a strain on ourselves (not only because it digests longer, but milion other things, the toxins in it, the manmade stuff instead of nature made).
Why use fuel to get fuel?
Why eat something which require energy to get energy from it instead of eating the most digestible things in larger quantities (as they are less caloric)?
"All sickness is either
1. too much of something in the body which it doesnt need (toxins etc)
2. too litlle of the things which it does need (vitamins,minerals, sleep, good emotions, sun,wind, generali conditions that was to be supplied by nature, before human tried to be smarter)"
forgot who said that, maybe dr. christopher, anyway
The easiest digestible things are fruits and veggies, the more you eat them in their natural (i.e RAW) state the less you are prone to disease and never will you experience strain or tiredness after eating, actually just the opposite
write in google or google video 'douglas graham' or 'doug graham'
here are also fantastic lecture, that every kid should watch in my opinion
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=organicathlete
question everything, find everything for yourself
be earnest,experiment, play with it :-)
know that you are living on this earth, though you forget it all the time, living in houses and pursuing the careers, but you are bound to the same laws as other animals, if you find them and follow them, at first it may seem unnatural because you may resist change and going into the unknown, but then it becomes natural and nature will support you unconditionally and you will never get sick, you will be always healthy and happy
my love and good wishes to you
mark, poland
10jedyny.at.gmail
We make excuses about things as a protective mechanism of holding on to them and justifing them instead of looking holistically at ourselves and learning.
Please consider this question: Why do i eat food?
Seariously, isnt it about gettin back the energy you have lost? When we eat foods that are difficult to digest we are putting a strain on ourselves (not only because it digests longer, but milion other things, the toxins in it, the manmade stuff instead of nature made).
Why use fuel to get fuel?
Why eat something which require energy to get energy from it instead of eating the most digestible things in larger quantities (as they are less caloric)?
"All sickness is either
1. too much of something in the body which it doesnt need (toxins etc)
2. too litlle of the things which it does need (vitamins,minerals, sleep, good emotions, sun,wind, generali conditions that was to be supplied by nature, before human tried to be smarter)"
forgot who said that, maybe dr. christopher, anyway
The easiest digestible things are fruits and veggies, the more you eat them in their natural (i.e RAW) state the less you are prone to disease and never will you experience strain or tiredness after eating, actually just the opposite
write in google or google video 'douglas graham' or 'doug graham'
here are also fantastic lecture, that every kid should watch in my opinion
http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=organicathlete
question everything, find everything for yourself
be earnest,experiment, play with it :-)
know that you are living on this earth, though you forget it all the time, living in houses and pursuing the careers, but you are bound to the same laws as other animals, if you find them and follow them, at first it may seem unnatural because you may resist change and going into the unknown, but then it becomes natural and nature will support you unconditionally and you will never get sick, you will be always healthy and happy
my love and good wishes to you
mark, poland
10jedyny.at.gmail
sorry for doubl post
Also consider that, whne oyu eat fruits or veggies and you say ' well, fruits and veggies are good, why am i sleepy after eating them?' this might not be because of them, but because of last meal oyu have ate, especially if it was fatty, as fat takes longest to digest, os if you eat only fruits at breakfats they may be something from yesterday that mixes up with the fruit and frements or rots, or something
" The reason for sleepiness after meals (it is absolutely normals) is a type of neuron called an orexin neuron. These neurons are in the hypothalamus which is a part of the brain which regulates many process and almost all hormones. When your blood sugar level increases, as it will after a mean, the orexin neuron is inhibited from firing. Why would this affect sleepiness? Well, orexin neurons are responsible for controlling our awake state. When they are inhibited we feel sleepy.
If you think of this from an evolutionary perspective, it makes sense, since it would be dangerous for an animal that has just eating to go out and keep searching for food. Instead many animals find a safe space and sleep after a big meal."
this is ridiculous, the REASON is not orexin neuron, it is the outward manifestation of the reason, which is 'body needs rest' , why does it need rest? because its tired? what are the conditions that contribute to tiredness? mailny not getting enough sleep everyday, eating foods that are hard to digest
i don't know about all animals, but those that sleep after meal seems to be all the meat eaters only, tigers and lions and , never seen an giraffe taking a nap after eating some leaves :-P
there are many things to cover on this topic,but for now i finish
if i made a mistake, please forgive and be gracious enough to correct
peace
Also consider that, whne oyu eat fruits or veggies and you say ' well, fruits and veggies are good, why am i sleepy after eating them?' this might not be because of them, but because of last meal oyu have ate, especially if it was fatty, as fat takes longest to digest, os if you eat only fruits at breakfats they may be something from yesterday that mixes up with the fruit and frements or rots, or something
" The reason for sleepiness after meals (it is absolutely normals) is a type of neuron called an orexin neuron. These neurons are in the hypothalamus which is a part of the brain which regulates many process and almost all hormones. When your blood sugar level increases, as it will after a mean, the orexin neuron is inhibited from firing. Why would this affect sleepiness? Well, orexin neurons are responsible for controlling our awake state. When they are inhibited we feel sleepy.
If you think of this from an evolutionary perspective, it makes sense, since it would be dangerous for an animal that has just eating to go out and keep searching for food. Instead many animals find a safe space and sleep after a big meal."
this is ridiculous, the REASON is not orexin neuron, it is the outward manifestation of the reason, which is 'body needs rest' , why does it need rest? because its tired? what are the conditions that contribute to tiredness? mailny not getting enough sleep everyday, eating foods that are hard to digest
i don't know about all animals, but those that sleep after meal seems to be all the meat eaters only, tigers and lions and , never seen an giraffe taking a nap after eating some leaves :-P
there are many things to cover on this topic,but for now i finish
if i made a mistake, please forgive and be gracious enough to correct
peace
Hi all,
I am here because yesterday afternoon, this afternoon and just now after dinner... I was unusually sleepy...and I mean... put a pillow against any wall and sleep standing up! I tried to research the food I had eaten...all three times... shrimp. Homemade cocktail sauce, ketchup with horse-radish, fresh lime juice, and some cilantro. Yumbo. But all three times.. I just wanna shut down and kip it for a few, you know'?? like.. all I could think of was a 3 hour nap or like now..canceling plans for the evening and just crashing.
There are no sleepiness symptoms for shellfish allergies..I searched. So.. what's a girl to do??
I know your body puts its energy into digesting..blah blah DUH. Completely normal. But wanting to just sit where I am standing.. anywhere...and wishing for sleep as if I have been deprived of it for 4 days is WRONG.
Anybody have anything like this after eating shrimp??? Perhaps I ate too much??? 1 cup. Dipped in my sauce.
:-)
I am here because yesterday afternoon, this afternoon and just now after dinner... I was unusually sleepy...and I mean... put a pillow against any wall and sleep standing up! I tried to research the food I had eaten...all three times... shrimp. Homemade cocktail sauce, ketchup with horse-radish, fresh lime juice, and some cilantro. Yumbo. But all three times.. I just wanna shut down and kip it for a few, you know'?? like.. all I could think of was a 3 hour nap or like now..canceling plans for the evening and just crashing.
There are no sleepiness symptoms for shellfish allergies..I searched. So.. what's a girl to do??
I know your body puts its energy into digesting..blah blah DUH. Completely normal. But wanting to just sit where I am standing.. anywhere...and wishing for sleep as if I have been deprived of it for 4 days is WRONG.
Anybody have anything like this after eating shrimp??? Perhaps I ate too much??? 1 cup. Dipped in my sauce.
:-)
if you gotta spam the board with dumb answers stick to reading.. especially the guy about interstate jumping.. wtf is that.
the reasons for getting sleepy after a meal are multiple and absolutely normal !!! - it has to do with blood sugar levels, volume of blood going into stomach and intestine to aid digestion and such and many many hormonal and molecular reactions going on - want proof? eat nothing but simple sugars ( fruits and vegetables would be a good candidate ) for a week or 2 - and not too much of it ( will take 2-4 days for body to adjust) eventually you will be fine with 3-4 hrs of sleep a day and always hyper never tired and have much more energy than you could ever imagine it is not logical - why because we are brainwashed into thinking it can not be - and yes i did that myself for 3 months while leading active lifestyle ( working out daily jogging playing sports and working full time ) we actually consume 5x more calories than our body actually needs - and the 2500 cal average daily intake is there simply because food manufacturers base 80% of their products on refined sugars and saturated fats that are packed with calories and if they advertised daily intake at 400 cal ( which is pretty much all body needs for a day - unless you are a lumberjack working in subarctic then you need 10x more of course ) they`d soon be out of business
so if the calories were set at a realistic level the sales would drop to a halt - refined sugar is actually more addictive and harmful to your health than other white substance that has such bad reputation - cocaine - gram for gram cocaine is healthier than the stuff you feed your child everyday for breakfast... of course all you out there looking for loopholes I DO NOT MEAN to feed your child cocaine or sweeten your coffee with it ....
it does sound dumb but before you argue do your research and no don`t go to CNN or Kraft website to do that . Use real science not propaganda.
the reasons for getting sleepy after a meal are multiple and absolutely normal !!! - it has to do with blood sugar levels, volume of blood going into stomach and intestine to aid digestion and such and many many hormonal and molecular reactions going on - want proof? eat nothing but simple sugars ( fruits and vegetables would be a good candidate ) for a week or 2 - and not too much of it ( will take 2-4 days for body to adjust) eventually you will be fine with 3-4 hrs of sleep a day and always hyper never tired and have much more energy than you could ever imagine it is not logical - why because we are brainwashed into thinking it can not be - and yes i did that myself for 3 months while leading active lifestyle ( working out daily jogging playing sports and working full time ) we actually consume 5x more calories than our body actually needs - and the 2500 cal average daily intake is there simply because food manufacturers base 80% of their products on refined sugars and saturated fats that are packed with calories and if they advertised daily intake at 400 cal ( which is pretty much all body needs for a day - unless you are a lumberjack working in subarctic then you need 10x more of course ) they`d soon be out of business
so if the calories were set at a realistic level the sales would drop to a halt - refined sugar is actually more addictive and harmful to your health than other white substance that has such bad reputation - cocaine - gram for gram cocaine is healthier than the stuff you feed your child everyday for breakfast... of course all you out there looking for loopholes I DO NOT MEAN to feed your child cocaine or sweeten your coffee with it ....
it does sound dumb but before you argue do your research and no don`t go to CNN or Kraft website to do that . Use real science not propaganda.
I am tired of hearing "it's normal" The excessive sleepiness I, and many of those who posted on this site is not normal! If you haven't experienced and are offering an off the wall opinion - quit it. I'd like a real solution.
It started about 6 months months ago. I am healthy, and because of it, with a lot of research (trying to get to the bottom of it) I eat a low glycemic diet and little if any grains. I take an digestive enzyme before and after a meal and an acidophilus tablet after meals well as a multi-vitamin COQ-10 and a statin drug at night. I have studied the allergic theory and that doesn't seem to affect my sleepiness. Occasionally after breakfast I get sleepy. BUT, after LUNCH, that is another story. I could fall asleep standing on a bed of nails, in freezing rain, with my head against a bldg. When the excessive sleepiness starts to come on about 20-40 minutes after eating I have to go straight home to sleep for about 2 hours, after only having been awake for 5-6 hours from having slept 8-9 hours...... The sleepiness rarely, if ever, happens after the evening meal. I drink 2-3 cups of Liptons tea in the morning (no coffee) before breakfast and have begun drinking 1 cup after dinner.
So don't tell me it's normal. I'm not talking about the "bushed" feeling after eating Thanksgiving dinner or a big meal. I'm talking I have to shut my eyes and sleep or I will die a quick death.
Will someone who has had this problem and found a solution, please write me directly _[removed]_ I don't want to listen to any more theories. You simply can't imagine the degree of incapacitating sleepiness that I experience after eating lunch.
Help, please before I just give up and take a carniverous lion or bed with me one of these afternoons.
It started about 6 months months ago. I am healthy, and because of it, with a lot of research (trying to get to the bottom of it) I eat a low glycemic diet and little if any grains. I take an digestive enzyme before and after a meal and an acidophilus tablet after meals well as a multi-vitamin COQ-10 and a statin drug at night. I have studied the allergic theory and that doesn't seem to affect my sleepiness. Occasionally after breakfast I get sleepy. BUT, after LUNCH, that is another story. I could fall asleep standing on a bed of nails, in freezing rain, with my head against a bldg. When the excessive sleepiness starts to come on about 20-40 minutes after eating I have to go straight home to sleep for about 2 hours, after only having been awake for 5-6 hours from having slept 8-9 hours...... The sleepiness rarely, if ever, happens after the evening meal. I drink 2-3 cups of Liptons tea in the morning (no coffee) before breakfast and have begun drinking 1 cup after dinner.
So don't tell me it's normal. I'm not talking about the "bushed" feeling after eating Thanksgiving dinner or a big meal. I'm talking I have to shut my eyes and sleep or I will die a quick death.
Will someone who has had this problem and found a solution, please write me directly _[removed]_ I don't want to listen to any more theories. You simply can't imagine the degree of incapacitating sleepiness that I experience after eating lunch.
Help, please before I just give up and take a carniverous lion or bed with me one of these afternoons.
This person's sleepiness is not normal--he or she wouldn't have come here if it was the old "I ate too many carbs at Thanksgiving and now I want to nap" phenomenon.
People who think that they understand often don't. Or they suggest pat solutions without asking any questions. Did you ask this person about their diet or habits before you presumed to have answers.
I know exactly what he or she is talking about because I suffer from this kind of tiredness after meals, even the slightest amount of food can induce it. In my case, menopause, which has been rough on my adrenals has induced it. But I would not presume that this applies to this particular person because I am not a doctor or a alternative practitioner and I have not met him or her. There are so many things that can cause fatigue and I am sure there are all kinds of reasons why a person might feel fatigues after meals, but it amazes me that really no one discussed adrenals--one person mentioned it in passing. Because adrenals can be a huge factor. But so can blood sugar, thyroid, vitamin deficiencies, diet, exercise, allergies, chemical pollutants and even boredom.
A very athletic person who eats consciously can get low adrenals. It's common in otherwise healthy menopausal women who never suffer any other symptoms at all. Menopause taxes the adrenals because the body uses adrenaline to replace estrogen. There is often a adrenaline surge in the middle of the night when already low estrogen levels drop dramatically. But there can be other causes of low adrenals such as:
(1)being very athletic and burning fat (so the "you are not getting enough exercise theory" doesn't always apply--very athletic people can get adrenal exhaustion and feel fatigued. It makes me feel exhausted just hearing people tell me that I may not be getting enough exercise when I do.)
(2) from dieting and weight loss (the "you are eating too much food or too many carbs" theory doesn't always apply because burning fat taxes the adrenals, though I tend to agree that we eat too many carbs here in America and they can induce some slight sleepiness.)
Anyone who has ever had low adrenals has often noticed tiredness early in the day, with increasing energy toward the end of the day, often feeling intensely energetic after midnight and unable to sleep. This can wreak havoc with health, with jobs with everything. So you might note the time of day when your energy is highest.
I encourage you to go get a number of tests done: allergies, adrenal function, thyroid, etc. You might want to note in deference to the allergy theory if you feel more tired after eating some foods. Soy products make me intensely tired--this was the case before menopause, but in someone else there might not be any reaction. My father experiences this too. I'd advise charting what you eat and noticing if there any patterns and doing the pulse test. Some people experience a racing pulse within 30 minutes of eating a food they are allergic to. You may not feel your heart racing, but you may notice it in your pulse.
I'm not as adversely affected by this sleepiness because I work out of my house. I don't know what I would do if I had a day job and couldn't take a short nap when it is very severe. I tend to eat more often and lighter meals now, of course staying away from too many carbs and sugar and making sure I eat enough protein. When the tiredness hits I do gentle yoga--the sun salutation-- for about ten minutes. It seems to help revitalize me. I do this about 3-5 times a day. In my case I think it works because I have a tendency not to breathe deeply when I am working and sitting there after a meal with my low adrenal problem all combine to make me sleepy.
I hope you find out what is wrong and get it resolved. Take care of yourself. One other thing you might look into some nutritional support. I just read that pantothenic acid is good for fatigue. I looked for foods that are high in it and avocados have a lot. I have noticed some improvement with eating avocados.
People who think that they understand often don't. Or they suggest pat solutions without asking any questions. Did you ask this person about their diet or habits before you presumed to have answers.
I know exactly what he or she is talking about because I suffer from this kind of tiredness after meals, even the slightest amount of food can induce it. In my case, menopause, which has been rough on my adrenals has induced it. But I would not presume that this applies to this particular person because I am not a doctor or a alternative practitioner and I have not met him or her. There are so many things that can cause fatigue and I am sure there are all kinds of reasons why a person might feel fatigues after meals, but it amazes me that really no one discussed adrenals--one person mentioned it in passing. Because adrenals can be a huge factor. But so can blood sugar, thyroid, vitamin deficiencies, diet, exercise, allergies, chemical pollutants and even boredom.
A very athletic person who eats consciously can get low adrenals. It's common in otherwise healthy menopausal women who never suffer any other symptoms at all. Menopause taxes the adrenals because the body uses adrenaline to replace estrogen. There is often a adrenaline surge in the middle of the night when already low estrogen levels drop dramatically. But there can be other causes of low adrenals such as:
(1)being very athletic and burning fat (so the "you are not getting enough exercise theory" doesn't always apply--very athletic people can get adrenal exhaustion and feel fatigued. It makes me feel exhausted just hearing people tell me that I may not be getting enough exercise when I do.)
(2) from dieting and weight loss (the "you are eating too much food or too many carbs" theory doesn't always apply because burning fat taxes the adrenals, though I tend to agree that we eat too many carbs here in America and they can induce some slight sleepiness.)
Anyone who has ever had low adrenals has often noticed tiredness early in the day, with increasing energy toward the end of the day, often feeling intensely energetic after midnight and unable to sleep. This can wreak havoc with health, with jobs with everything. So you might note the time of day when your energy is highest.
I encourage you to go get a number of tests done: allergies, adrenal function, thyroid, etc. You might want to note in deference to the allergy theory if you feel more tired after eating some foods. Soy products make me intensely tired--this was the case before menopause, but in someone else there might not be any reaction. My father experiences this too. I'd advise charting what you eat and noticing if there any patterns and doing the pulse test. Some people experience a racing pulse within 30 minutes of eating a food they are allergic to. You may not feel your heart racing, but you may notice it in your pulse.
I'm not as adversely affected by this sleepiness because I work out of my house. I don't know what I would do if I had a day job and couldn't take a short nap when it is very severe. I tend to eat more often and lighter meals now, of course staying away from too many carbs and sugar and making sure I eat enough protein. When the tiredness hits I do gentle yoga--the sun salutation-- for about ten minutes. It seems to help revitalize me. I do this about 3-5 times a day. In my case I think it works because I have a tendency not to breathe deeply when I am working and sitting there after a meal with my low adrenal problem all combine to make me sleepy.
I hope you find out what is wrong and get it resolved. Take care of yourself. One other thing you might look into some nutritional support. I just read that pantothenic acid is good for fatigue. I looked for foods that are high in it and avocados have a lot. I have noticed some improvement with eating avocados.
I just ate and was about to take a nap, but several of the replies got my ire up and thus woke me up.
This person's sleepiness is not normal--he or she wouldn't have come here if it was the old "I ate too many carbs at Thanksgiving and now I want to nap" phenomenon.
People who think that they understand often don't. Or they make assumptions about the person's diet or lifestyle and then suggest pat solutions without asking any questions.
For instance, one person's solution that they switched from eating a meat-based sandwich to a tofu based food helped. The tofu would put me to sleep so don't listen to everything you hear because what works for one person will not work for another. Tofu is a highly suspicious food. The phytates in soy make it difficult to digest, often robbing the body of minerals.
One thing I hear some vegetarians claim is that they feel better now that they are a vegetarian. I have known a number of very tired vegetarians, which is why I am not one. I experimented with it in my youth for moral reasons--and yes I eat a very good diet--but frankly I felt worse doing all that food combining to get enough protein.
Now I tend to eat a lot of fruits and veges and meat and lay low on the carbs, though I do eat carbs, just sensibly and moderately, choosing very carefully what I eat. I met a very old healthy woman who was in her 90s and I asked her what she ate during her life and she said everything. The longest lived people in the world are not vegetarians, by the way. The live in Okinawa, Sweden, Andora and one other region near the Indies--I would have to look it up again. As for the adage that vegetarians live longer, well up to a point they do, but after the age of 70 it evens out with meat eaters and vegetarians being about equal.
Anyway, back to tiredness after meals. I know exactly what he or she is talking about because I suffer from this kind of tiredness after meals, even the slightest amount of food can induce it. In my case, menopause, which has been rough on my adrenals has induced it. Up until menopause I was a very energetic person and still am, but meals put me to sleep.
But I would not presume that this person is menopausal anymore than I would presume they were a duck that had wandered onto this site looking for a vegetarian to rescue it from the hands of meateater. I am not a doctor or a alternative practitioner and I have not met him or her. There are so many things that can cause fatigue and I am sure there are all kinds of reasons why a person might feel fatigue after meals--reasons we are all familiar with and ones we are not.
What amazes me that really no one discussed adrenals--I think guest mentioned it in passing. Adrenals can be a huge factor. But so can blood sugar, thyroid, vitamin deficiencies, diet, exercise, allergies, chemical pollutants and even boredom. You ever been to a family get together where people are just sitting around talking small talk after a meal and it is as if all the air has gone out of the room and you want to find some bed to lie down on? I mean you just feel so intensely tired. People who are into bioenergetics would say there were energy vampires in the room...but that is another story.
A very athletic person who eats consciously can get low adrenals. It's common in otherwise healthy menopausal women who never suffer any other symptoms at all such as hot flashes and night sweats. Menopause taxes the adrenals because the body uses adrenaline to replace estrogen. There is no way around it except to replace the estrogen, but that can raise other problems. There is often a adrenaline surge in the middle of the night when already low estrogen levels drop dramatically. But there can be other causes of low adrenals such as:
(1)being very athletic and burning fat (so the "you are not getting enough exercise theory" doesn't always apply--very athletic people can get adrenal exhaustion and feel fatigued. It makes me feel exhausted just hearing people tell me that I may not be getting enough exercise when I do. Sometimes I want to belt them, but I am a pacifist--probably the meat I eat makes me feel like belting them. If I were a vegetarian I wouldn't have these impulses! Ha! Yeah, like right.)
(2) from dieting and weight loss (the "you are eating too much food or too many carbs" theory doesn't always apply because burning fat taxes the adrenals, though I tend to agree that we eat too many carbs here in America and they can induce some slight sleepiness. I'd say burn your copy of the old food pyramid and find the book the Ecology Diet, which has the most sensible recommendations in terms of food portions that I have come across. And no, it doesn't recommend that you give up meat or for that matter carbs. Hmmm that 90 year old may have had it right she ate everything. Except perhaps tofu...)
Anyone who has ever had low adrenals has often noticed tiredness early in the day, with increasing energy toward the end of the day, often feeling intensely energetic after midnight and unable to sleep. This can wreak havoc with health, with jobs with everything. So you might note the time of day when your energy is highest. If it is higher in the evening it may be adrenals.
I encourage you to go get a number of tests done: allergies, adrenal function, thyroid, etc. You might want to note in deference to the allergy theory if you feel more tired after eating some foods. Soy products make me intensely tired--this was the case before menopause, but in someone else there might not be any reaction. My father experiences this too. if we eat anything with soy in it we doze off. So I guess I am going to eat hat beef guest advised against...I'd advise charting what you eat and noticing if there any patterns and doing the pulse test. Some people experience a racing pulse within 30 minutes of eating a food they are allergic to. You may not feel your heart racing, but you may notice it in your pulse.
I'm not as adversely affected by this sleepiness because I work out of my house. I don't know what I would do if I had a day job and couldn't take a short nap when it is very severe. I tend to eat more often and lighter meals now, of course staying away from too many carbs and sugar and making sure I eat enough protein. When the tiredness hits I do gentle yoga--the sun salutation-- for about ten minutes. It seems to help revitalize me. I do this about 3-5 times a day. In my case I think it works because I have a tendency not to breathe deeply when I am working and sitting there after a meal with my low adrenal problem all combine to make me sleepy. You know really I think gentle solutions are sometimes what it takes. A nice gentle walk after eating, for instance? Who says you have to go down to the gym and kill yourself on some cardio machine?
I hope you find out what is wrong and get it resolved. Take care of yourself. One other thing you might look into some nutritional support. I just read that pantothenic acid is good for fatigue. I bet this is true whether it's from this or that or the other. I looked for foods that are high in it and avocados have a lot. I have noticed some improvement with eating avocados, but lordy lordy the old anti-cholesterol league is probably going to hunt me down and pummel me for not pushing soy margarine on you.
This person's sleepiness is not normal--he or she wouldn't have come here if it was the old "I ate too many carbs at Thanksgiving and now I want to nap" phenomenon.
People who think that they understand often don't. Or they make assumptions about the person's diet or lifestyle and then suggest pat solutions without asking any questions.
For instance, one person's solution that they switched from eating a meat-based sandwich to a tofu based food helped. The tofu would put me to sleep so don't listen to everything you hear because what works for one person will not work for another. Tofu is a highly suspicious food. The phytates in soy make it difficult to digest, often robbing the body of minerals.
One thing I hear some vegetarians claim is that they feel better now that they are a vegetarian. I have known a number of very tired vegetarians, which is why I am not one. I experimented with it in my youth for moral reasons--and yes I eat a very good diet--but frankly I felt worse doing all that food combining to get enough protein.
Now I tend to eat a lot of fruits and veges and meat and lay low on the carbs, though I do eat carbs, just sensibly and moderately, choosing very carefully what I eat. I met a very old healthy woman who was in her 90s and I asked her what she ate during her life and she said everything. The longest lived people in the world are not vegetarians, by the way. The live in Okinawa, Sweden, Andora and one other region near the Indies--I would have to look it up again. As for the adage that vegetarians live longer, well up to a point they do, but after the age of 70 it evens out with meat eaters and vegetarians being about equal.
Anyway, back to tiredness after meals. I know exactly what he or she is talking about because I suffer from this kind of tiredness after meals, even the slightest amount of food can induce it. In my case, menopause, which has been rough on my adrenals has induced it. Up until menopause I was a very energetic person and still am, but meals put me to sleep.
But I would not presume that this person is menopausal anymore than I would presume they were a duck that had wandered onto this site looking for a vegetarian to rescue it from the hands of meateater. I am not a doctor or a alternative practitioner and I have not met him or her. There are so many things that can cause fatigue and I am sure there are all kinds of reasons why a person might feel fatigue after meals--reasons we are all familiar with and ones we are not.
What amazes me that really no one discussed adrenals--I think guest mentioned it in passing. Adrenals can be a huge factor. But so can blood sugar, thyroid, vitamin deficiencies, diet, exercise, allergies, chemical pollutants and even boredom. You ever been to a family get together where people are just sitting around talking small talk after a meal and it is as if all the air has gone out of the room and you want to find some bed to lie down on? I mean you just feel so intensely tired. People who are into bioenergetics would say there were energy vampires in the room...but that is another story.
A very athletic person who eats consciously can get low adrenals. It's common in otherwise healthy menopausal women who never suffer any other symptoms at all such as hot flashes and night sweats. Menopause taxes the adrenals because the body uses adrenaline to replace estrogen. There is no way around it except to replace the estrogen, but that can raise other problems. There is often a adrenaline surge in the middle of the night when already low estrogen levels drop dramatically. But there can be other causes of low adrenals such as:
(1)being very athletic and burning fat (so the "you are not getting enough exercise theory" doesn't always apply--very athletic people can get adrenal exhaustion and feel fatigued. It makes me feel exhausted just hearing people tell me that I may not be getting enough exercise when I do. Sometimes I want to belt them, but I am a pacifist--probably the meat I eat makes me feel like belting them. If I were a vegetarian I wouldn't have these impulses! Ha! Yeah, like right.)
(2) from dieting and weight loss (the "you are eating too much food or too many carbs" theory doesn't always apply because burning fat taxes the adrenals, though I tend to agree that we eat too many carbs here in America and they can induce some slight sleepiness. I'd say burn your copy of the old food pyramid and find the book the Ecology Diet, which has the most sensible recommendations in terms of food portions that I have come across. And no, it doesn't recommend that you give up meat or for that matter carbs. Hmmm that 90 year old may have had it right she ate everything. Except perhaps tofu...)
Anyone who has ever had low adrenals has often noticed tiredness early in the day, with increasing energy toward the end of the day, often feeling intensely energetic after midnight and unable to sleep. This can wreak havoc with health, with jobs with everything. So you might note the time of day when your energy is highest. If it is higher in the evening it may be adrenals.
I encourage you to go get a number of tests done: allergies, adrenal function, thyroid, etc. You might want to note in deference to the allergy theory if you feel more tired after eating some foods. Soy products make me intensely tired--this was the case before menopause, but in someone else there might not be any reaction. My father experiences this too. if we eat anything with soy in it we doze off. So I guess I am going to eat hat beef guest advised against...I'd advise charting what you eat and noticing if there any patterns and doing the pulse test. Some people experience a racing pulse within 30 minutes of eating a food they are allergic to. You may not feel your heart racing, but you may notice it in your pulse.
I'm not as adversely affected by this sleepiness because I work out of my house. I don't know what I would do if I had a day job and couldn't take a short nap when it is very severe. I tend to eat more often and lighter meals now, of course staying away from too many carbs and sugar and making sure I eat enough protein. When the tiredness hits I do gentle yoga--the sun salutation-- for about ten minutes. It seems to help revitalize me. I do this about 3-5 times a day. In my case I think it works because I have a tendency not to breathe deeply when I am working and sitting there after a meal with my low adrenal problem all combine to make me sleepy. You know really I think gentle solutions are sometimes what it takes. A nice gentle walk after eating, for instance? Who says you have to go down to the gym and kill yourself on some cardio machine?
I hope you find out what is wrong and get it resolved. Take care of yourself. One other thing you might look into some nutritional support. I just read that pantothenic acid is good for fatigue. I bet this is true whether it's from this or that or the other. I looked for foods that are high in it and avocados have a lot. I have noticed some improvement with eating avocados, but lordy lordy the old anti-cholesterol league is probably going to hunt me down and pummel me for not pushing soy margarine on you.
The "guest" is most correct. It is definitely normal and healthy to become sleepy after a meal. For me it is most commonly my lunchtime meal only. In lay terms here is why: Going along with the fight-or-fight response - Your body uses energy to metabolize digestion which is why there is less energy for mental/physical tasks. Going along with this, if you do need to activate the fight-or-flight response, ALL DIGESTION CEASES, as you need energy for physical/mental energy. Which is why it is not good to eat protein immediately prior to a work out, it will sit like a lump in your belly because you are using adrenalin for workouts. And I also give a nod to the above post who stated she/he felt no sleepiness after changing her lunch to a SALAD w/ choice toppings as opposed to a sandwich. Eat light, eat often for a steady stream of energy/nutrition, and save your fuller dinner when you have time to relax. Wish we all had the luxury of a mid day siesta!!!
I also suffer from this and it has become gradual from my mid-30's. All these condescending answers help no one. Most of you do not read the posters statement or have a clue to the depth of sleepiness involved. THIS IS NOT NORMAL. A single bite of food can put me into a state where laying down on the sidewalk and going to sleep would be fantastic. This is not a I feel tired after a meal but I can go on. This is one of the most overwhelming desires you will ever have. Doctors give all the standard answers and run all the standard tests including sleep depravity. They all come up negative and want to prescribe sedatives. I used to be normal, so I know what normal is. If you have not experienced this then you really have no comprehension what we go through. Only someone with this problem who solved it can give an answer that would be worthy of posting. All this other nonsense about blood rushing to digest and the brain shutting down and lack of exercise and most of the other references to this problem are all related to people who have a NORMAL twinge of tiredness, and while the concepts are true they really do not apply in this case. There may be a modicum of side benefits and while certainly good for the body, and while improvements may be noted, let me state that if you could measure the improvements with a ruler, eating the right food is worth an inch, exercise is worth an inch, proper diet is worth an inch. but we have a mile to go, thats how far off base you are. all your solutions given in good faith or in haughtiness are only worth three inches of a mile. You have no concept of the degree of tiredness we suffer for the meager amount of food we might eat. As widespread as this is there should be medical/scientific solutions to this. If just one person who has suffered through this could give a solution or a path to recovery for this would be greatly appreciated.
I am also looking for an answer to this problem. I was excited to see this posted, but still don't have a solution to the problem.
I go to the gym about 5 days a week. In addition to that I swim twice a week, throw in extra biking and running, so this problem for me has nothing to do with not exercising. I am hypoglycemic and that makes it much more difficult since help for the average person usually doesn't work for me. Also, I already eat 6 small meals a day. So, one of my scenarios is:
After 7 hours of sleep, go to the gym in the morning, eat breakfast which includes Ezekial cereal with soy milk, nuts and some canadian bacon, then about an hour after (usually while I am driving to work), I need to sleep and can barely keep my eyes open. I tried waiting until I got to work to eat. The drive to work was good, but then I slept through my meetings.
So, I eat well, sleep well, get exercise...now what can I try?
I have a hard time explaining this tiredness to people. It is different than the normal exhausted feeling at the end of the day. This sleepiness is gone usually if I am able to take a 10-15 minute nap. If I don't, then I am in a fog, my brain can't function, and I feel like I have narcolepsy. I could fall sleep having a one on one conversation with someone. I saw the post about checking what I eat...maybe the gluten. This is very frustrating and scary...
Thanks to all who have taken the time to post to issue like this. Hopefully others like me will eventually find a solution that works for us.
I go to the gym about 5 days a week. In addition to that I swim twice a week, throw in extra biking and running, so this problem for me has nothing to do with not exercising. I am hypoglycemic and that makes it much more difficult since help for the average person usually doesn't work for me. Also, I already eat 6 small meals a day. So, one of my scenarios is:
After 7 hours of sleep, go to the gym in the morning, eat breakfast which includes Ezekial cereal with soy milk, nuts and some canadian bacon, then about an hour after (usually while I am driving to work), I need to sleep and can barely keep my eyes open. I tried waiting until I got to work to eat. The drive to work was good, but then I slept through my meetings.
So, I eat well, sleep well, get exercise...now what can I try?
I have a hard time explaining this tiredness to people. It is different than the normal exhausted feeling at the end of the day. This sleepiness is gone usually if I am able to take a 10-15 minute nap. If I don't, then I am in a fog, my brain can't function, and I feel like I have narcolepsy. I could fall sleep having a one on one conversation with someone. I saw the post about checking what I eat...maybe the gluten. This is very frustrating and scary...
Thanks to all who have taken the time to post to issue like this. Hopefully others like me will eventually find a solution that works for us.
I have the same problem. Do you guy think whether you have enough sleep at night will be crucial to this problem or not, from my point of view: our digest system might not rest enough at night which cause us feel uncomfortable after the meal. Do you guy have good sleep at night most of the time?
I know if I try to focus too much after the meal, my stomach will hurt finally. If anybody have solution, that will be great.
I know if I try to focus too much after the meal, my stomach will hurt finally. If anybody have solution, that will be great.
I have the same problem and came across this board while researching this topic.
This is not a normal overcoming of necessary and immeidiate sleep need. I too, can eat a few bites of anything and within minutes, be overcome by this need (not desire) to sleep. It is as sudden as when a doctor gives you a sedative through an IV.
This was a gradual thing with me. I first noticed it around a year ago and I would need a little short nap. Now, I sleep an average of 2 hours after eating. If I eat a few bites = 1 hr sleep, a regular small meal = 2 hrs, a large meal (not overstuffing) = 4 hrs. This has greatly affected my every day life and eating food is not a pleasurabe experience for me.
I am interested in the adrenal issue brought up. This is something I am personally going to look into because in late 2006, I had one of my adrenal glands removed. My adrenal functions have not been checked since and I wonder if my other adrenal gland is working correctly now. The time frame would be about right for the onset for me.
If this is the case, and it is my problem, it may be something to consider for others. Whether it be surgically induced or through some other cause.
This is not a normal overcoming of necessary and immeidiate sleep need. I too, can eat a few bites of anything and within minutes, be overcome by this need (not desire) to sleep. It is as sudden as when a doctor gives you a sedative through an IV.
This was a gradual thing with me. I first noticed it around a year ago and I would need a little short nap. Now, I sleep an average of 2 hours after eating. If I eat a few bites = 1 hr sleep, a regular small meal = 2 hrs, a large meal (not overstuffing) = 4 hrs. This has greatly affected my every day life and eating food is not a pleasurabe experience for me.
I am interested in the adrenal issue brought up. This is something I am personally going to look into because in late 2006, I had one of my adrenal glands removed. My adrenal functions have not been checked since and I wonder if my other adrenal gland is working correctly now. The time frame would be about right for the onset for me.
If this is the case, and it is my problem, it may be something to consider for others. Whether it be surgically induced or through some other cause.
I understand how these people feel.
Lately it's been happening to me too.
I am a big girl... 6' 1/4" and 82 kilos... sorry don't know the lbs & oz.. Over the last 12 months I have put on 12 kilos because of anti-depressants and their related dramas/stresses which put me back on them again.
I've eaten 4 Weet-Bix with milk and honey for breakfast every morning since I was a little kid... I'm in my early 5th decade. For a while I've felt like the 4 Weet-Bix barely touched the sides as I ate my breakfast sometimes seeing the bottom of the bowl and wondering where it all went and where the enjoyment disappeared. So I added another Weet-Bix to my breakfast bowl.
I've been eating 5 Weet-Bix on and off for about a month. The last couple of mornings I have felt this overwhelming urge to just collapse into sleep. It's like a curtain comes down which is so heavy that the need to find a place to sleep is paramount.
I eat my breakfast outside most days as I want to enjoy the fesh air and the sun on my skin to help me with the depression.
BUT... this brain shutdown after the only meal I enjoy in any day, is totally devastating for me.
All I have found to fix it other than getting into bed, is to do something physical but it doesn't have to be complicated... like play with my cats and kittens... They make me laugh and giggle. Work in the garden doing something physical.
My non-professional opinion is that if we allow our bodies to actually sleep after a meal, the body will begin to believe it is a 'normal' happening and will become a 'sleep after eating' robot under that spell and fall into the trap of becoming a slave to our bodies instead of us having the control.
I believe by doing something enjoyably physical, without too much effort to tire you out, teaches the brain and body to use the food to release energy making endorphins.
Thinking about this 'solution', I have found the brain becomes otherwise occupied and the need to sleep goes away.
I'm not saying it works every time. Sometimes I just crash out coz I know the extra sleep will revive me whereas other times I have felt very strongly to fight the need to sleep.
Lately it's been happening to me too.
I am a big girl... 6' 1/4" and 82 kilos... sorry don't know the lbs & oz.. Over the last 12 months I have put on 12 kilos because of anti-depressants and their related dramas/stresses which put me back on them again.
I've eaten 4 Weet-Bix with milk and honey for breakfast every morning since I was a little kid... I'm in my early 5th decade. For a while I've felt like the 4 Weet-Bix barely touched the sides as I ate my breakfast sometimes seeing the bottom of the bowl and wondering where it all went and where the enjoyment disappeared. So I added another Weet-Bix to my breakfast bowl.
I've been eating 5 Weet-Bix on and off for about a month. The last couple of mornings I have felt this overwhelming urge to just collapse into sleep. It's like a curtain comes down which is so heavy that the need to find a place to sleep is paramount.
I eat my breakfast outside most days as I want to enjoy the fesh air and the sun on my skin to help me with the depression.
BUT... this brain shutdown after the only meal I enjoy in any day, is totally devastating for me.
All I have found to fix it other than getting into bed, is to do something physical but it doesn't have to be complicated... like play with my cats and kittens... They make me laugh and giggle. Work in the garden doing something physical.
My non-professional opinion is that if we allow our bodies to actually sleep after a meal, the body will begin to believe it is a 'normal' happening and will become a 'sleep after eating' robot under that spell and fall into the trap of becoming a slave to our bodies instead of us having the control.
I believe by doing something enjoyably physical, without too much effort to tire you out, teaches the brain and body to use the food to release energy making endorphins.
Thinking about this 'solution', I have found the brain becomes otherwise occupied and the need to sleep goes away.
I'm not saying it works every time. Sometimes I just crash out coz I know the extra sleep will revive me whereas other times I have felt very strongly to fight the need to sleep.
Hello
50_the_new_black...
Yes, obviously soy is a conspiracy, because see how many food canyou make out of it? Milk, pasta, flour, blabla
Please consider again, that whenever you make a decition, it is based of natural law, ask yourself ; What would nature do? What would happen if there will be no humans around to tell me what to do? What would i do in nature?
In this way you will attune yourself with 'how things shoulda been'
As far as the protein goes, its also not true you need much.
(if you do the nature inquiry, most of other untruth will come up as well)
I provided a proof on page 2 of this topic, but now i will point to specific movie presentation - http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=organicathlete%20protein
I know vegetarians are not healthy. And the doctor which i have talked about diet, said his worse patients are vegetarians. It is weird.
I didnt felt the difference being a vegetarian to anmal-eater. But felt while going to vegan. But still the cooked food is heavy and if you will eat only raw for like 3 months like i did. and then go back to grains and cooked potatos you will know it is heavy, less heavy than meat, but still it takes a lot of your energy. A LOT.
This may sound radical, but i am a true knower (not believer) in Eating that which nature produces in a state that it produces it, instead of giving in to human and telling here, make me a meal out of it. The word 'natural' is put everywhere now, so let me be clear.
FRUITS AND VEGETABLES ONLY.
That is defines today as raw-foodism, but also here lies the danger. So i recommend Dr doug graham and his philosophy.
Many people will get so shocked they will never research it even, and when they do, first article that will be negative will prove to them you need milk,meat etc. and they will stop researching.
The fact is, its all braiwashing as some guest said.
When you eat mostly fruits and some veggies (foodnsport.com) you feel more like your true self, that is open,vibrant, healthy,loving, at peace all the time.
If it sounds like a dream to you you are deep in social programming and my wish is for you to be free.
My deep appreciation of you and love
Mark
50_the_new_black...
Yes, obviously soy is a conspiracy, because see how many food canyou make out of it? Milk, pasta, flour, blabla
Please consider again, that whenever you make a decition, it is based of natural law, ask yourself ; What would nature do? What would happen if there will be no humans around to tell me what to do? What would i do in nature?
In this way you will attune yourself with 'how things shoulda been'
As far as the protein goes, its also not true you need much.
(if you do the nature inquiry, most of other untruth will come up as well)
I provided a proof on page 2 of this topic, but now i will point to specific movie presentation - http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=organicathlete%20protein
I know vegetarians are not healthy. And the doctor which i have talked about diet, said his worse patients are vegetarians. It is weird.
I didnt felt the difference being a vegetarian to anmal-eater. But felt while going to vegan. But still the cooked food is heavy and if you will eat only raw for like 3 months like i did. and then go back to grains and cooked potatos you will know it is heavy, less heavy than meat, but still it takes a lot of your energy. A LOT.
This may sound radical, but i am a true knower (not believer) in Eating that which nature produces in a state that it produces it, instead of giving in to human and telling here, make me a meal out of it. The word 'natural' is put everywhere now, so let me be clear.
FRUITS AND VEGETABLES ONLY.
That is defines today as raw-foodism, but also here lies the danger. So i recommend Dr doug graham and his philosophy.
Many people will get so shocked they will never research it even, and when they do, first article that will be negative will prove to them you need milk,meat etc. and they will stop researching.
The fact is, its all braiwashing as some guest said.
When you eat mostly fruits and some veggies (foodnsport.com) you feel more like your true self, that is open,vibrant, healthy,loving, at peace all the time.
If it sounds like a dream to you you are deep in social programming and my wish is for you to be free.
My deep appreciation of you and love
Mark
Guest wrote:
but in order to process the food into energy you need...you guessed it, ENERGY! give the young man a prize, he wins: AN ANATOMY TEXTBOOK! I suggest you read it before you post things like this
Getting sleepy after a meal is WRONG and not normal. If 100 million people jump off the interstate and onto concrete 2000 ft high, is that normal? How can normal be determined by the amount of times humans do things? if getting sleepy is normal after a meal (putting energy into the body) then superman must really be batman alltogether.
but in order to process the food into energy you need...you guessed it, ENERGY! give the young man a prize, he wins: AN ANATOMY TEXTBOOK! I suggest you read it before you post things like this