Hi all,
I just read this last post and feel like I was completely lied to by the Drs. I thought I was doing the responsible thing by going for an inpatient detox. Big mistake-they put me in a psych ward and basically left me other than the blood pressure meds and nausea meds which just made me groggy. I was in hell! I had no idea what was about to happen- that would have helped me prepare. When it hit at about 12 hrs I was panicked. I went for help and was told there was nothing they could do, other than more blood pressure meds. At 36 to 40hrs I started to halucinate and saw an angel, right before i finally fell asleep for the first time. When I woke up I felt ok, I asked the drs if I was done and they(3 different drs) said yes, once you get better you get better. I went home, they were wrong. Maybe the angel just gave me a repreive, but it hit again, round 2. This time I knew what I was in for and I was scared as hell. Friends tried to help, but didnt know how exept they heard about suboxone. I frantically tried to get the suboxone and finally found someone who would give it in 3 days, but I would have to use to get through til then. OK long story short-sorry-big mistake. I am down to .5mg per day of subox. constant withdrawls, and can't imagine being worse. Now I find out that these will last a long time. How can I work like this? Does this stupid mistake have to cost me my job too?
I just read this last post and feel like I was completely lied to by the Drs. I thought I was doing the responsible thing by going for an inpatient detox. Big mistake-they put me in a psych ward and basically left me other than the blood pressure meds and nausea meds which just made me groggy. I was in hell! I had no idea what was about to happen- that would have helped me prepare. When it hit at about 12 hrs I was panicked. I went for help and was told there was nothing they could do, other than more blood pressure meds. At 36 to 40hrs I started to halucinate and saw an angel, right before i finally fell asleep for the first time. When I woke up I felt ok, I asked the drs if I was done and they(3 different drs) said yes, once you get better you get better. I went home, they were wrong. Maybe the angel just gave me a repreive, but it hit again, round 2. This time I knew what I was in for and I was scared as hell. Friends tried to help, but didnt know how exept they heard about suboxone. I frantically tried to get the suboxone and finally found someone who would give it in 3 days, but I would have to use to get through til then. OK long story short-sorry-big mistake. I am down to .5mg per day of subox. constant withdrawls, and can't imagine being worse. Now I find out that these will last a long time. How can I work like this? Does this stupid mistake have to cost me my job too?
I am on Day 3 of Percocet w/d. My first 2 days were complete hell, but today, my third day, I felt significantly better. I really screwed up and a while back put a few 10MG Loretabs in a Tylenol bottle for those "just in case" situations, forgot about it and took 2 by accident. I am now crying, I should've known better, but these were in there so long ago I just didn't think of it. Can someone please tell me if taking these will set me back and start the process all over again? Please help me, I'm so scared. I can't believe I did this, I can't stop crying. I thought I was doing so good. Please help me...
I'm so glad I found this website because one of the problems I'm facing if the fact that I cannot tell anyone about this. The fact that I can write this out here is a relief. Where to start?
I'm 24, I've done drugs all my life. Experimented with a lot but never had a problem.... in my teenage years. About 5 years ago I found myself getting free oxys which I gladly ate up... for 3 years straight. For the whole 3 years I was taking 5mg pills, 2 or 3 at a time, maybe 3 or 4 times a day. Reading about what others on here were taking that probably doesn't seem like much at all, at least to me it didn't. I ALWAYS got a buzz from just 10mg at a time so I never felt the urge to up the dosage. The person who was giving me these drugs ended up quitting oxys and moving on to morphine. They gave me those instead which once again i began taking and have been for 2 years straight. I don't know about other people but the change from oxy to morphine made no difference. Still the same high. I was told I would get oxy withdrawal when i switched but i didn't what so ever.
So with the morphine I take at most 3 doses a day 30mg each time except when I'm on my period which i have severe pain so i'd up it by 2 or 3 pills. Again, I get a nice high, I never needed to up it so I never have.
I've also never felt a true need of quitting like others for a number of reasons...
I like it. No, I love it. That's a big problem I know. I've also never had to pay for these pills so never feeling any sort of financial strain makes my head see no reasoning in quitting. And lastly, they have never ever caused any sort of problems with my functioning like a normal human being. I know other addicts who sleep all day, can't hold a job.. all those things. I've gone to school taking them and can study etc just fine. I've held a number of jobs without any problem. I never spend days in bed because they cause me to be to fatigued. None of that. All that happens is I take some and listen to music or watch movies or enjoy reading, friends company, conversation, my iigsaw puzzles. They give me a really nice buzz that i very much enjoy.
I am at the point of understanding that even though i enjoy it so and can function, I am still addicted and I can't go on like this forever. I guess I've just been waiting for the moment to come where something forces me to quit. That time has come. I live in Canada and in December I'll be going to the States for a week by airplane and since I have no perscription to take with me on board it's really now or never. I don't want to go on vacation and suffer. I'm ashamed to say I've known about this trip since August and have waited until now to truly do something about it. The past 2-3weeks I've only been taking 1 dose a day, usually only 20mg, a few times here and there 30mg. With a little over a month left I'm thinking it's time to go cold turkey. I really don't know what to expect but i'm thinking the worst, preparing for the worst. This site helps but at the same time it's difficult to judge how/if my experience will be the same because of the amount I was taking and the amount I'm at now (posts I've read where people have gone cold turkey, a lot of their intake amount was far higher at the time of quitting) and also quite a lot of people have been taking more then one drug at a time which I have not.
I have tylenol and benadryl which people on here says helps and I also have a perscription for clonazepam which I don't know if it will help or not, I thought I'd ask on here if anyone has taken any while going through withdrawl? I don't really know what else to do. The past few weeks I've had major trouble not thinking about taking more pills, not because my body felt like it needed it, just my brain. I gotta tell you, it feels weird not taking any to sit back and enjoy a good movie and such but the past few days I've been much more determined and have been more along the thought line of "ok, let's do this!" I'm expecting once I get into the major withdrawl my mind will once again slip back into the wanting of pills and having them at my fingertips kinda scares me but the idea of going through it again in december, away from home scares me much more so I'm not going to fail at this.
I also am well aware of the huge problem I'll be facing once I get home from the states, the issue of staying off. I've already stated how much I enjoy it and I know I'm going to have to get help with that but I'm trying to take things one step at a time and the first one is kicking this in time for December.
Can this be done? By the second week of December will I be ok enough to go out and be active? I'm at 30 hours without any morphine. I felt a little leg stiffness earlier and took a tylenol and it went away quick enough. I know I'm nowhere near the worst and that scares me but at least I've got 30 hours behind me. Just taking it hour by hour.
Any suggestions or advise would really help me, and if anyone has suggestions about the fact that I have a due date on being well, if I can make it and tips to get me there. Oh I also have a bottle of liquid hydrocodone which a doctor perscribed to me the last time I had a cold I didn't even realize he didn't give me regular cough syrup until I had it filled and didn't end up taking much because I was seriously sick and just wanted my cold to go away. Would taking some of that while going through the worst of the withdrawal be a good idea? I'm worried that doing so may actually prolong the withdrawl rather then just help with the pain because it's just another drug but if I'm wrong and it will just help put me at ease for awhile I'd definitely like to know so I can do so. Also, if by december I'll still be feeling bad since I have a prescription for the syrup should I be saving it to take along if I need the help??
Also, thanks to everyone on here for posting your stories and making it possible for me to even consider sharing mine.
I'm 24, I've done drugs all my life. Experimented with a lot but never had a problem.... in my teenage years. About 5 years ago I found myself getting free oxys which I gladly ate up... for 3 years straight. For the whole 3 years I was taking 5mg pills, 2 or 3 at a time, maybe 3 or 4 times a day. Reading about what others on here were taking that probably doesn't seem like much at all, at least to me it didn't. I ALWAYS got a buzz from just 10mg at a time so I never felt the urge to up the dosage. The person who was giving me these drugs ended up quitting oxys and moving on to morphine. They gave me those instead which once again i began taking and have been for 2 years straight. I don't know about other people but the change from oxy to morphine made no difference. Still the same high. I was told I would get oxy withdrawal when i switched but i didn't what so ever.
So with the morphine I take at most 3 doses a day 30mg each time except when I'm on my period which i have severe pain so i'd up it by 2 or 3 pills. Again, I get a nice high, I never needed to up it so I never have.
I've also never felt a true need of quitting like others for a number of reasons...
I like it. No, I love it. That's a big problem I know. I've also never had to pay for these pills so never feeling any sort of financial strain makes my head see no reasoning in quitting. And lastly, they have never ever caused any sort of problems with my functioning like a normal human being. I know other addicts who sleep all day, can't hold a job.. all those things. I've gone to school taking them and can study etc just fine. I've held a number of jobs without any problem. I never spend days in bed because they cause me to be to fatigued. None of that. All that happens is I take some and listen to music or watch movies or enjoy reading, friends company, conversation, my iigsaw puzzles. They give me a really nice buzz that i very much enjoy.
I am at the point of understanding that even though i enjoy it so and can function, I am still addicted and I can't go on like this forever. I guess I've just been waiting for the moment to come where something forces me to quit. That time has come. I live in Canada and in December I'll be going to the States for a week by airplane and since I have no perscription to take with me on board it's really now or never. I don't want to go on vacation and suffer. I'm ashamed to say I've known about this trip since August and have waited until now to truly do something about it. The past 2-3weeks I've only been taking 1 dose a day, usually only 20mg, a few times here and there 30mg. With a little over a month left I'm thinking it's time to go cold turkey. I really don't know what to expect but i'm thinking the worst, preparing for the worst. This site helps but at the same time it's difficult to judge how/if my experience will be the same because of the amount I was taking and the amount I'm at now (posts I've read where people have gone cold turkey, a lot of their intake amount was far higher at the time of quitting) and also quite a lot of people have been taking more then one drug at a time which I have not.
I have tylenol and benadryl which people on here says helps and I also have a perscription for clonazepam which I don't know if it will help or not, I thought I'd ask on here if anyone has taken any while going through withdrawl? I don't really know what else to do. The past few weeks I've had major trouble not thinking about taking more pills, not because my body felt like it needed it, just my brain. I gotta tell you, it feels weird not taking any to sit back and enjoy a good movie and such but the past few days I've been much more determined and have been more along the thought line of "ok, let's do this!" I'm expecting once I get into the major withdrawl my mind will once again slip back into the wanting of pills and having them at my fingertips kinda scares me but the idea of going through it again in december, away from home scares me much more so I'm not going to fail at this.
I also am well aware of the huge problem I'll be facing once I get home from the states, the issue of staying off. I've already stated how much I enjoy it and I know I'm going to have to get help with that but I'm trying to take things one step at a time and the first one is kicking this in time for December.
Can this be done? By the second week of December will I be ok enough to go out and be active? I'm at 30 hours without any morphine. I felt a little leg stiffness earlier and took a tylenol and it went away quick enough. I know I'm nowhere near the worst and that scares me but at least I've got 30 hours behind me. Just taking it hour by hour.
Any suggestions or advise would really help me, and if anyone has suggestions about the fact that I have a due date on being well, if I can make it and tips to get me there. Oh I also have a bottle of liquid hydrocodone which a doctor perscribed to me the last time I had a cold I didn't even realize he didn't give me regular cough syrup until I had it filled and didn't end up taking much because I was seriously sick and just wanted my cold to go away. Would taking some of that while going through the worst of the withdrawal be a good idea? I'm worried that doing so may actually prolong the withdrawl rather then just help with the pain because it's just another drug but if I'm wrong and it will just help put me at ease for awhile I'd definitely like to know so I can do so. Also, if by december I'll still be feeling bad since I have a prescription for the syrup should I be saving it to take along if I need the help??
Also, thanks to everyone on here for posting your stories and making it possible for me to even consider sharing mine.
I am 55 years old and have owned and operated several businesses with 100's of employees since I was 20. I have always been active in our local political system and social scene. For 25 years I smoked 3-4 jonts EVERYDAY. At the age of 45 I thought I should become more acceptable and gave up pot for wine. For the next five years I drank 2-3 bottles of wine EVERYDAY. Five years ago one of my employees suggested Loratabs instead of drinking, and gave me few. I fell in love over night. It did not take long to get up to speed, 8-10 Loratab 10s per day. I know this daily habit seems mild to some people on this site. For four years I never even thought I might want to quit. No reason to. Money was easy and supply was easy and I am what some say is a very funtional doper/drinker. Last year I was in China for two weeks and miscounted how many I would need for the trip. I ran out three days before I was to return and I did not dare consider trying to score in China. By the time I started the trip home I was into real hell. Withdrawl was bad but withdrawl on a 16 hour flight almost cost me my mind. As soon as I got to my vehicle at the airport I swallowed a couple and felt better very soon. On the hour drive home I told my little friends I would never leave them alone again. I also realized I was a drug addict and this needed to come to an end. I have three young daughters I recently adopted out of an orphanage I HAVE to be here for many years. In December my brother told me he needed to get of the pills because his liver was failing; hep c from dirty needle in the past, and he had to get clean to get on the transplant list. I said I would quit at the same time. Anyway, everyone here knows how miserable withdrawl is. I had two horrible weeks, then two bad weeks and about six weeks after quitting I actually felt good.
In March I broke my upper arm bone and in the emergency room was given a Loratab 10 and a script for 20 more. It was liking finding my old lost best friend. It only took about a week to get back up to speed, 8-10 a day. Supply was no problem. I could not figure out what made me want to quit. About two months ago I had a run in with the law and went to jail for a night. Now I have to be drug tested once a month to stay out on bail. So I recently quit again. It was much easier this time. Maybe the two months off earlier in the year helped.
I do not know if this will help anyone else but it seemed to make it easier for me this time. I read every post on here and took some tips from many people.
1. I did what I call a taper. I dropped from 8 per day to 5 per day for two days, 4 for two days , 3 for two days, 2 for two days, and and one on the last day. I was feeling the WD by the two a days.
2. I jumped over to Tramadol the day after my last Loratab. I took 350 MG the first day and tapered to 100 MG over a week. I have read that Tramadol interfers with the brain and affects the same area giving the withdraws. I do not know.
3. After a week of Tramadol I went cold turkey. I did not want to stay on Tram long enough to get hooked. No buzz.
4. First two days were the normal hell-no restless leg-and I was ready to give up. The third day was just like a mild flu day. The fourth day was pretty good. After one week I really felt alive. On that day I walked out to get my newspaper at 6AM and as I stood in the driveway the wind blew what I thought was a piece of trash at my feet. When I picked it up it was a red ribbon they give to school children that said FREEDOM...IS DRUG FREE.
The things that helped ME the most through the fast taper, the Tramadol and the first bad week of nothing were;
Water, as much water as you can make yourself drink.
Exercise. I have always exercised everyday but through this I spent two hours a day on a stationary bike. It is hard. You do not want to but it helps tremendously. Twice a day for an hour.
Many hot, hot long showers.
Benedryl to help with sleep. Sleep whenever you can fall asleep.
Eat protien, not red meat.
Ibuprofen or whatever works for you.
I am not going back. I feel better than I have in years. I love those pills but they are like a best friend that has to go.
In March I broke my upper arm bone and in the emergency room was given a Loratab 10 and a script for 20 more. It was liking finding my old lost best friend. It only took about a week to get back up to speed, 8-10 a day. Supply was no problem. I could not figure out what made me want to quit. About two months ago I had a run in with the law and went to jail for a night. Now I have to be drug tested once a month to stay out on bail. So I recently quit again. It was much easier this time. Maybe the two months off earlier in the year helped.
I do not know if this will help anyone else but it seemed to make it easier for me this time. I read every post on here and took some tips from many people.
1. I did what I call a taper. I dropped from 8 per day to 5 per day for two days, 4 for two days , 3 for two days, 2 for two days, and and one on the last day. I was feeling the WD by the two a days.
2. I jumped over to Tramadol the day after my last Loratab. I took 350 MG the first day and tapered to 100 MG over a week. I have read that Tramadol interfers with the brain and affects the same area giving the withdraws. I do not know.
3. After a week of Tramadol I went cold turkey. I did not want to stay on Tram long enough to get hooked. No buzz.
4. First two days were the normal hell-no restless leg-and I was ready to give up. The third day was just like a mild flu day. The fourth day was pretty good. After one week I really felt alive. On that day I walked out to get my newspaper at 6AM and as I stood in the driveway the wind blew what I thought was a piece of trash at my feet. When I picked it up it was a red ribbon they give to school children that said FREEDOM...IS DRUG FREE.
The things that helped ME the most through the fast taper, the Tramadol and the first bad week of nothing were;
Water, as much water as you can make yourself drink.
Exercise. I have always exercised everyday but through this I spent two hours a day on a stationary bike. It is hard. You do not want to but it helps tremendously. Twice a day for an hour.
Many hot, hot long showers.
Benedryl to help with sleep. Sleep whenever you can fall asleep.
Eat protien, not red meat.
Ibuprofen or whatever works for you.
I am not going back. I feel better than I have in years. I love those pills but they are like a best friend that has to go.
I want to tell people here of the miracle drug that completely kills WD within 12-14 hours called Ibogaine...it is illegal in the U.S. but if you search hard enough, you can find a treatment center that will administer it...just google it and read about this magic drug that cures even the hardest core addiction to heroin in one use of ibogaine. There are many testimonials out there, just do a search. I was addicted to oxycontin 40mg pills and was taking about 20 of them a day...I contacted someone in the D.C. area and after stopping completely two days prior I had ibogaine administered...about 20 hours later, I felt zero WD symptoms and even quit smoking...I can't explain this drug as it is a "self awareness" psychoactive drug that interrupts the receptors in your brain that are affected by heroin and OC. I really wish this drug would become legal here as it is completely legal in many countries.
I have a question for anyone out there. Has anyone tried the medication for restless legs? I think I could actually handle this if it weren't for my legs driving me crazy! Before I go to my primary doc for help, I thought I would ask you all since you seem to know more than any and every doc I have ever talked to. I was inpatient for a detox and they acted like they had never heard of this particular withdrawl symptom. I made the mistake of going on suboxone and now I can't get off of it. The withdrawls from this stuff is just as bad if not worse. Please, if anyone has any info please post as soon as possible. I've heard the longer you stay on suboxone the harder it is to get off.
what is working for me, is a prescription to ativan, nyquil to sleep, immodium and pot. i caught another h. habit along with oxy so i tapered the last 4 days, one day off, one day with smaller doses of oxy, two days off, one on smaller dose of oxy, ativan, etc. also, the occasional neurontin dose helps, too.
YES!! The chills and sweats are driving me insane! My family thinks I have the flu.
Like many, I am treated by my MD in a very respectable pain-management group. Long story made short- I abused my Fentanyl patches. Now I am using my prescribed dose and am sooo sick. The chills and sweats are the worst part- and a headache from hell.
How long will this last? I am on day 3 of drastically reducing from about 100 micrograms to 75, which is prescribed. I have a spinal cord injury and severe pain management issues related to this, so I will not be w/d to less-than 75 micrograms.
Everything hurts...
HELP!
"The sweats seem like the longest part of w/d to me. . I've gone 2 weeks & still sweat & have chills. Its like my body cant regulate its own temperature.Does anyone have any "remedy" for that? Or anything that has worked for you? Cuz I HATE that part of it. I can handle the rest of it for the most part but the sweaty, clammy thing is the worst."
Like many, I am treated by my MD in a very respectable pain-management group. Long story made short- I abused my Fentanyl patches. Now I am using my prescribed dose and am sooo sick. The chills and sweats are the worst part- and a headache from hell.
How long will this last? I am on day 3 of drastically reducing from about 100 micrograms to 75, which is prescribed. I have a spinal cord injury and severe pain management issues related to this, so I will not be w/d to less-than 75 micrograms.
Everything hurts...
HELP!
"The sweats seem like the longest part of w/d to me. . I've gone 2 weeks & still sweat & have chills. Its like my body cant regulate its own temperature.Does anyone have any "remedy" for that? Or anything that has worked for you? Cuz I HATE that part of it. I can handle the rest of it for the most part but the sweaty, clammy thing is the worst."
Tramadol is not regulated by the FDA therefore you can get it without too much flack. It does not contain the compenents like opiates do such as lortab (hydrocodone). Matter of fact you can go buy it in Mexico with NO prescription take it back across the border with no problems at all. I do not suggest you do that but just FYI. As a dental assistant we prescribe it for pain for people who have had issues with addiction. It does not give you that euphoria feeling. Ok, my answer to your question. Lortab is 50 times worse coming off of than ultram/tramadol could ever be! I know from personal experience! I have been addicted to lortab for over 3 1/2 years now. Started with a legitimate medical problem then progressed. For the past 2 months I was taking anywhere from 12 to 20 pills a day(thats 90 to 150 mg's daily, depending on how many i had available)...I am talking within a 12 hour period!!!! I knew my time was up with this addiction or I was going to OD. I lost my job 2 days ago. So after walking out of the office for the last time cryin my eyes out I went home told my parents and grabbed the yellow pages and called every rehab center I could all have a 2-4 month waiting list. So, a friend of a friend made a call and I am in ( not physically but paper work is done and they have a bed). Ok after talking to a counselor I came to realize how serious withdrawals are from opiates when you are taking as many pills as I was. I was told I under no circumstances could enter rehab w/o detox program 1st that if they took me in w/o detox I could have seizures and die before an ambulance could get to me! I am not dying over some pills!!!! I have too much to live for! I am currently taking methadone(highly addictive as well) once a day to help stave off withdrawal symptoms until I come up with a game plan!
Now my delima is...I lost my job. I have no income coming in. I am going through a divorce and my parents are broke so I have NO financial help to do the detox program. I may qualify for state assistance but b/c I am not currently working they have to go by the last years tax return and that is 2 incomes not what I currently make so it is likely that I won't qualify! I have no insurance to help. So what do we people do? We suffer. We want to get help. We make all the efforts to get help. But, we get none! So therefore I need suggestions on how to get thru this w/o the detox program. Got any????
Now my delima is...I lost my job. I have no income coming in. I am going through a divorce and my parents are broke so I have NO financial help to do the detox program. I may qualify for state assistance but b/c I am not currently working they have to go by the last years tax return and that is 2 incomes not what I currently make so it is likely that I won't qualify! I have no insurance to help. So what do we people do? We suffer. We want to get help. We make all the efforts to get help. But, we get none! So therefore I need suggestions on how to get thru this w/o the detox program. Got any????
Back again, I've posted a few times here. I am the one who had a pretty heavy addiction years ago, but now occasionally go through short 2 week binges. I've posted lists and hints on how to get through minor withdrawal withdrawal
Anyways been tapering for about a week. Work is pretty shitty. Will probably keep a low dose till either Monday or next Friday depending on how I feel.
Its totally managable but I need to stop doing this to myself. When I am not on these things I work out heavy three times a week and am very healthy. Doing this often sets me back for close to three weeks because when I am going through my extended minor withdrawal (I use long acting opiates, so the WD is lessened in intensity but longer in length) I do very little besides lay in bed and drink a few beers and puff very small doses of marijuana.
Anyways I will be posting a few times. Writing on this forum is so damn therapeutic for me.
Anyways been tapering for about a week. Work is pretty shitty. Will probably keep a low dose till either Monday or next Friday depending on how I feel.
Its totally managable but I need to stop doing this to myself. When I am not on these things I work out heavy three times a week and am very healthy. Doing this often sets me back for close to three weeks because when I am going through my extended minor withdrawal (I use long acting opiates, so the WD is lessened in intensity but longer in length) I do very little besides lay in bed and drink a few beers and puff very small doses of marijuana.
Anyways I will be posting a few times. Writing on this forum is so damn therapeutic for me.
I posted yesterday at
12/29/09 - 19:05
Looks like the last time I posted was around 4/26ish, but when I am in this position I always go back and look at my older posts and I have some on the old thread.
Anyways today I feel better, seems like my body is acclimated to the low dose I switched too (I took a very big jump so I still felt it). I've been going to work and actually have been very productive. I guess I am keeping myself busy. So this means that I will most likely be taking the plunge this weekend. So I will most likely take the last dose on the 31st, which means I will have to watch the drinking on NYE. This will give me friday, saturday and sunday to get over what shouldn't be all that bad because of the taper. The hardest parts for me are always the nights. I never let my usage get to the point where I do not sleep for a few days (well anymore), just a very interrupted and stressful sleep. Oh well, many others have it much worse then I do. I'm just an id**t who keeps getting himself into this mess. More pissed off at myself then anything, a few months ago I was having totally sober weeks (no drinking or smoking). That is pretty nuts. I need to get back to that point and I will. I really hope this is the last time, I know that is totally up to me which is a scary thing to admit. Problem is I always ramp up the drinking during WD, which is part of the reason I always take the big jump starting on Fridays. I'm still in my 20s so the hangovers are not all that severe, but the beer and the OTC sleeping meds usually make me very groggy in the morning.
Did I also mention I am going to take a small hit money wise. Of course I have some more on the way which I am basically going to have to throw out upon arrival. Oh well lesson learned. That money could have went into the savings account though.
Two hints:
1. Protein shakes are really helping me this time. It cannot be stressed how much you need to get something into your system during this time. It is very stressful for your body.
2. When you get off stay off, you will feel WD quicker and more intensely every time you go through it. This binge wouldn't have even touched me when I was first starting, now it is a major pain and basically equals a c**p week and then another week of recovery.
However I do have to admit that days 5 to 7 can sometimes be pretty cool at certain points. That is when you are over the rough stuff and kinda waking up again. Every time I go through these I basically feel like I am awaking from a slumber. Kinda scary actually.
Alright I am off to yet another grind. I'm feeling better after writing this and am glad today is better then yesterday. Here is to small victories!
12/29/09 - 19:05
Looks like the last time I posted was around 4/26ish, but when I am in this position I always go back and look at my older posts and I have some on the old thread.
Anyways today I feel better, seems like my body is acclimated to the low dose I switched too (I took a very big jump so I still felt it). I've been going to work and actually have been very productive. I guess I am keeping myself busy. So this means that I will most likely be taking the plunge this weekend. So I will most likely take the last dose on the 31st, which means I will have to watch the drinking on NYE. This will give me friday, saturday and sunday to get over what shouldn't be all that bad because of the taper. The hardest parts for me are always the nights. I never let my usage get to the point where I do not sleep for a few days (well anymore), just a very interrupted and stressful sleep. Oh well, many others have it much worse then I do. I'm just an id**t who keeps getting himself into this mess. More pissed off at myself then anything, a few months ago I was having totally sober weeks (no drinking or smoking). That is pretty nuts. I need to get back to that point and I will. I really hope this is the last time, I know that is totally up to me which is a scary thing to admit. Problem is I always ramp up the drinking during WD, which is part of the reason I always take the big jump starting on Fridays. I'm still in my 20s so the hangovers are not all that severe, but the beer and the OTC sleeping meds usually make me very groggy in the morning.
Did I also mention I am going to take a small hit money wise. Of course I have some more on the way which I am basically going to have to throw out upon arrival. Oh well lesson learned. That money could have went into the savings account though.
Two hints:
1. Protein shakes are really helping me this time. It cannot be stressed how much you need to get something into your system during this time. It is very stressful for your body.
2. When you get off stay off, you will feel WD quicker and more intensely every time you go through it. This binge wouldn't have even touched me when I was first starting, now it is a major pain and basically equals a c**p week and then another week of recovery.
However I do have to admit that days 5 to 7 can sometimes be pretty cool at certain points. That is when you are over the rough stuff and kinda waking up again. Every time I go through these I basically feel like I am awaking from a slumber. Kinda scary actually.
Alright I am off to yet another grind. I'm feeling better after writing this and am glad today is better then yesterday. Here is to small victories!
Well here I am, I can't believe I'm here. But yes like most of us i was a Oxy user for my back pain. I had two herniated discs coupled with two degenerative discs, followed by arthritis in my lower back. Which started in 2007. As I was awaiting surgery here in Canada (which frickn takes for ever) I slowly progressed myself from tylenol 3-Percocet-20mg Oxcy- (10times a day)-40MG Oxcy (10-12 pills/day) for approm 10months. After my very successful surgery I had no more back pain to speak of. As per my doc I started the decline process till I finished my perscription. Which took about 3-4 wks. Then everything started to break loose. I started to get sick, I told my wife I just had a bug in my stomach, she said I was having withdrawal symptons, I told her BS. 2 days went by and hell started to walk through my door, so I googled all my symptons, Well did I get a surprise, I am having Oxcy withdrawals. Yes the loss of appetite, shivers, yawing, sneezing, loss of sleep, cold sweats, no energy, fatigue, tiredness, aches and joint pain, restlessness. I have been reading alot of the home remedies, and yes Aleve really takes away the "heebe-jeebes", alot of Gatorade, water, vitamins, Unisom(for sleeping), Benedryl for the ache and pains. I am not addicted nor did I abuse the drug I just needed that much to get through my day to day work load. So here is my question, for taking 400mg-480mg/day for 8 months, how long do I have to suffer with this before I am normal again. I am on day 3.
Keep up the effort people we can beat this sh*t hands down if we stay together.
Keep up the effort people we can beat this sh*t hands down if we stay together.
To the guest above me:
You should start to notice you are feeling better today compared to yesterday. After about 5 to 7 days you will be over the large majority of it. Some people report minor symptoms lasting much longer. Keep it up you are almost there.
anyways I last posted on 12/30/09 - 09:26
Have some pretty big anxiety this morning. Took a really small dose last night. Going to most likely cancel my plans for tonight and take the plunge. Have a full day of work ahead of me though. Usually after a decent taper I find the worst of it only lasts about 48 hours, if that. What a crappy way to spend new years eve. Thankfully I have Friday to Monday off which will give me more then enough time. This has been a really long week. Again my usage wasn't too bad so I was still able to function and actually got alot done, however its not a fun way to spend your day. Just feeling fatigued, anxious, achy, nauseous, running nose etc.
Already telling those who live with me that I feel like I am coming down with the flu. Anyways I'm going to jump in the shower. I know I will get through this, I've done it plenty of times before. I have to stop putting my body through this though.
You should start to notice you are feeling better today compared to yesterday. After about 5 to 7 days you will be over the large majority of it. Some people report minor symptoms lasting much longer. Keep it up you are almost there.
anyways I last posted on 12/30/09 - 09:26
Have some pretty big anxiety this morning. Took a really small dose last night. Going to most likely cancel my plans for tonight and take the plunge. Have a full day of work ahead of me though. Usually after a decent taper I find the worst of it only lasts about 48 hours, if that. What a crappy way to spend new years eve. Thankfully I have Friday to Monday off which will give me more then enough time. This has been a really long week. Again my usage wasn't too bad so I was still able to function and actually got alot done, however its not a fun way to spend your day. Just feeling fatigued, anxious, achy, nauseous, running nose etc.
Already telling those who live with me that I feel like I am coming down with the flu. Anyways I'm going to jump in the shower. I know I will get through this, I've done it plenty of times before. I have to stop putting my body through this though.
I'm the same guest that has been posting:
Its 3:30 AM and I am of course up. I did end up taking my final dose on Thursday, so the main symptoms are starting up now. Not feeling very good right now, but its better then expected. Again, I urge anyone to taper if they can (some cannot), it pays off in the end. Even just a quick taper down will help when you really get into the thick of it.
Not really expecting to sleep very much more. Thankfully I do not have to do a single thing tomorrow and can just lay about. I want to remind everyone that they will get through this. When you think about it the reward for going through this short time of c**p is worth it! Keep it up.
Its 3:30 AM and I am of course up. I did end up taking my final dose on Thursday, so the main symptoms are starting up now. Not feeling very good right now, but its better then expected. Again, I urge anyone to taper if they can (some cannot), it pays off in the end. Even just a quick taper down will help when you really get into the thick of it.
Not really expecting to sleep very much more. Thankfully I do not have to do a single thing tomorrow and can just lay about. I want to remind everyone that they will get through this. When you think about it the reward for going through this short time of c**p is worth it! Keep it up.
Same guest thats been posting:
Never did get back to sleep last night. Glad I was able to grab some zs though. When those things happen I usually just grab a beer and ride it out. Having the television on can help as well, especially when feeling lonely.
Feeling better now though, tired, slightly achy and down in the dumps (not as depressed as last time though). Actually had some more of my opiate of choice come in today. I threw it out though. Gave it a big F you and flicked it off when I do too lol! Saved a few just in case this gets worse because I have to work monday. 99 percent sure I will not have to though and no I will not be tempted to use them. If anything I have a very small amount of kratom, enough to get through a day or two. Had some car problems and almost got stuck having to wait 2 hours, however I had a friend come pick me up.
I am finally beginning to see the end in sight. The taper really helped as usual. Also, do small positive things for yourself and loved ones. If you can do some mindless chores do them as well. Get out when you can and sortof reintroduce yourself to society. Tell someone you love or appreciate them. This will make you feel better, trust me.
Never did get back to sleep last night. Glad I was able to grab some zs though. When those things happen I usually just grab a beer and ride it out. Having the television on can help as well, especially when feeling lonely.
Feeling better now though, tired, slightly achy and down in the dumps (not as depressed as last time though). Actually had some more of my opiate of choice come in today. I threw it out though. Gave it a big F you and flicked it off when I do too lol! Saved a few just in case this gets worse because I have to work monday. 99 percent sure I will not have to though and no I will not be tempted to use them. If anything I have a very small amount of kratom, enough to get through a day or two. Had some car problems and almost got stuck having to wait 2 hours, however I had a friend come pick me up.
I am finally beginning to see the end in sight. The taper really helped as usual. Also, do small positive things for yourself and loved ones. If you can do some mindless chores do them as well. Get out when you can and sortof reintroduce yourself to society. Tell someone you love or appreciate them. This will make you feel better, trust me.