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hey  ive been on opiates for 10 years started abusind fentynayl 4 years ago just about lost my life and did lose my girl freind and my kids mom to this c**p now im on hydromoraph diloda 18 mg 3 times aday plus break through of 8 mg a day now im buy this same amount and using it all up the nose i hate this c**p iv run out and am going on day 6 still very fatiuged bad cravings will power is not there but there is no cash im affraid that as soon as it is around me i will use again this feeling will go awaysoon ihope because my kids our suffering watching me and its not fair to them what kind of things does a guy do after going cold turky and does not want to do this again this is eval stuff and need to stop thanks i enjoy reading these post

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Naughty drug addict - you've got yourself in a mess - nevermind there's no point crying about past mistakes - what we need is remedial action in the present so as to secure a better future.

There is a way past this impasse. Take the middle road. Regulate your dose and gradually reduce, by at least 10% every 2 weeks. Abrupt withdrawal or cold turkey is too brutal your mind is likely to rebel and runaway.

I switched from smoking heroin to taking morphine orally - which was easy once I got the equivalent dose right - (I also vapourised weed though to satisfy my urge to smoke for a few weeks) - then I cut my dose of morphine in half or by a third every 2 weeks until I was taking just 20mg of morphine a day - I would have preferred to continue tapering down with morphine but kratom is easier to procure so i switched to Kratom - 5g of Maeng Da strength premium Indo leaf powder once a day - the switch was painless though I also took 0.5mg to 1mg of etizolam now and then - now I'm going to reduce the kratom by at least 10% every 10-14 days.

I used Kratom to come off Heroin in the past and made the mistake of thinking there would be no withdrawal off kratom - in fact it just deferred the heroin withdrawal to a large extent so this time I'm going to taper myself off kratom gradually.

People say dont use benzos like etizolam to help with withdrawals because benzos are habit forming but they're also a medicine to    be used for legitimate medicinal purposes like getting off opiates. However I've found if you take a large dose of benzos you diminish your discriminative intelligence to such an extent that you might find yourself scoring some brown or something and messing up your opiate reduction regimine whilst under the influence.

Dont panic or despair you can and you will put this stuff aside - millions have done it before - dont be scared - dont be impatient - take one step at a time - your problems will pass.

Music helps alot - TV helps - being busy in work that is not stressfull or demanding can help.

Also healthy food - exercise - beauty/nature & weeping with compassion for the living beings is good.

And of course prayer or communion with the true self - the silent witness that observes the ego, the intelligence, the mind and the body is most beneficial.

Opiate abuse is a curse - although great for pain relief (physical and emotional) the cons soon outweigh the pros. Heroin just killed a friend of mine he was in the habit of snorting his at least if you smoke it your much less likely to nod off permanently.

Drugs are a trick - a delusion - happiness is your natural state - you do not need to administer it to yourself in the form of drugs - ween yourself off! Its relatively easy - impluses like lust and anger are much more difficult to control and give-up.

 

 

 

 

 

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I have been on 60 mg daily of hydrocodone daily and 90 mg of morphine er pills daily but was recently dropped from my pm doctor because I took my more of my meds than I was supposed to and ran out early. When they piss tested me I had no opiates in my system and they accused me of abusing them (which I was) or selling them (which I wasn't). Some days I would take up to 15 of the 10mg hydrocodone, and about 300mg of morphine. Now I have none and am on day 5 of withdrawals. It has been terrible, and even worse knowing no more opiates are on the way. I am responsible for taking care of my 2 year old daughter, and my energy level is at a zero. All I want to do is sleep. My skin is crawling and I am horribly depressed, unable to find joy in anything. I have RA, is there any way I can find another pm doctor now that I have been dropped from my previous one? I'm not trying to justify abusing opiates because of my condition, but pain killers are the only way I can function properly. Right now I am hopeless, my daughter wants to go outside to play. It is warm and sunny outside, but to me it is just gray and dull. Any suggestions?
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Been on painkillers for a couple of years, and it has definitely been all-consuming.  I have spent too much money, too much time chasing, and the withdrawals are bad for me.  I experience what most of you experience, but my night-times are worse than most of you I think.  I twitch involunatarily all night long and literally cannot sleep no matter what I do.  Suboxone is as bad if not worse than opiates...as I end up withdrawing from them too...not too mention they are even more difficult to get consistently.  The worst thing is what opiates and all the drugs around them do to your faith in humanity.  Friends steal from friends, and caring about anyone else but themselves is right out the window.  I have not spiraled downward like that...I do anything I can to help my friends who are experiencing the same thing...sometimes at my own downfall running short to help them.  Unfortunately people like me are few and far between....most people just take and not give...hoard and not help.  I cannot tell you how much is owed to me from "friends' and how much I have lost from theft and deception.  It is an awful world to be in.  I need to get out and going to be detoxing soon and don't ever want to look back.  I wil be visiting this forum frequently for inspiration.

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i was in the same boat us you. i got a new doctor and he recommended methadone for my pain as other opiate pain killers were good for a while but then i needed more to achieve the same results.. methadone has given me my life back. works great..before i had absolutly no life what so ever. everything was a struggle.you just have to ingnore all the bad stigma of it. you will have your life back..
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I feel for Guest, all you need to do is focus on your goal. I'm on day 28 cold turkey from the evil Oxcy,4 year addiction.consumed my life.I love where I'm at right now. I hope you well in your journey to quit this stupid charade. Pills and opiates are a waste of being ALIVE. Good luck and keep us posted

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Grrrrrrrrrr. write this as I sit frustrated. Eebie jeebies gettin me hard. Damnit. Been on various pain meds for months, and always having to boost up as they gain tolerance. From Vocodin to Percocet, to Vico 10. Went to Oxycodone 4, 6, and 8's. Went to Dilaudid 2mg, 3X a day, then Dilaudid 4mg 3 x day. 4mg is the current. Ran out too early. Purely my fault as I wanted to get the pain gone as the 4mg was losing potency. Supposed to last till the 26th, I have an Appt. on the 24th, not sure what they will say, but I have never been to a Pain Center until now. So I imagine they are gonna bust my ass and, I don't know, cut me off cuz I was stupid? Scary sh*t right there, lol.Leg irritability is definitely the worst, kept me up all night, had 2 pills left so I got up and took 1......slept eventually.Woke up, have 1 pill left, and just ate dinner, watched TV....eebie jeebies starting again, so I took a half pill. No idea what that will do. Only 1/2 pill to last me till.....no idea. Fuckering Off!!Read most of these comments, but what will STOP the Eebie jeebies until my appt.? :-(

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i wlould also add that i have a spin injury which is why i started pills to begin with.. i was on oxycoden and fentanyl patches a quit cold turky.. 10 days pur hell.. each day got better.. one month came and was better too, paws....each day got better. 2 months and was over it, had to reahabilitate myself.. walking lots every day, working out sweating..lots of water and nutritional foods..it will get better but will take time for most..because of my injury i started taking t3,s every day for pain..3 months later i was taking 4 t3,s 3 or 4 times per day.. way too much..got imune to them.. so i then told my doctor and swithed to 45 mg methadome for pain and codeine dependancy...i can either stay on methadone as i am pretty much goin to need something strong for pain as they cant fix me..i have been reasurred that methadome is safe, much safer than other opiates, long term..i feel like i did before before i ever took a pain pill(good) and is numbing my severe back pain..have lost 40 pounds feel great, sleep every night, active all day long..but again i have a bad back injury and obviously cant take any other short acting opiates..i belive if u are not in pain like me and many others and are just opiate dependent you can ween off methadone 10% a week or 2 what ever feels good and get off opiates for good if you want to with very few issues...u just have to really want it and have to be patient which i am not.......good luck to everyone trying to kick this awfull habit..

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I REALLY NEED SOME HELP. ive been addicted to vicodin for the last....4 years? at least 3 years where ive been using every day. I never had a problem with pain, so ive been getting mine from a friend and from friends of friends. all I can think about is them. Its gotten to the point where its ruining my relationship. My fiancee has made me make a choice between them or him. Its obvious that I choose him. Ive stopped cold turkey once, but that lasted a total of 2 weeks. I did it. I dont remember much about it, but I did it. NOW, I need to do it again. but I just remember how awful it was. I have a list here of things that I need to get from the drug store. and I would love for someones input on it. Im so scared to do this. But if I dont---Ill probably die from it. and ill probably die alone. Thus far, at my worst, I take anywhere from 90-120 mgs a day, sometimes more depending on what the day has in store. im done. I have only 3 10mgs left, and about 10 5mgs left and then im done. im nervous about that because I never let myself get low or run out. and when I do I have panic attacks. Its gotten to the point where the long term use of these has affected my sex drive, my libido, my moods, my sleep habits, eating habits...everything. Ive nver EVER snorted them or injected them or smoked them. always been taken orally. Someone tell me that I will get my normal self back. my no0rmal body. my normal sex drive. My life, my love depends on this. I need help, but no one but maybe 3 people know about this so I cant just go to some facility and get help. Its not possible. so...heres my list of things that Ive made note to get at the store....any input is welcome :)valerian rootLeg cramp pills with QuinineFish OilMulti VitaminsSouplots of fluids.

Immodium

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from my experience your list is ok..lots water. lots of exercise no matter how it bad it hurts.will speed things up..walk lots every day indefinatly..your going to have to rehabilitate yourself with exercise and lots of it to get yourself back to normal..production of chemicals in your body.. for me it took 2 weeks for sever symptoms to go away and another 2 weeks for my headaches to go away. most people from what i understand go through post acute withdrawal symptoms which come on fast and hard and then leave..super hot baths feels great and helps get through the night and day..immodium i hear helps after a couple days and would like to hear from you if possible..i didnt have a chance to try it when i went cold turkey..you should also see your doctor and explain your situation and if he or she is good they will help you along the way through this.. possible give you a short term script for anti-exiety meds to help with withdrawal..make it alittle easier..hope to hear back.. take care best of luck.you can do it.....

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I cant go to my doctor because it is the same doctor that my parents go to. how awful is that! and im still on my parents insurance. im only 24----25 in a few months. like I said, ive done it before but I just want to be able to kick it for good. I work monday through Friday too and I cant take off work for this. I work in customer service so im going to have to go through this AND deal with people who dont know whats going on. it sucks when youve hidden something for so long, and now you have no one to help and support because no one knows whats going on. and im too ashamed to let people know.

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very powerful. I would love to hear more from you in regards to Opiate withdrawal. Other than kratom, did you find anything else to help? did you have restless legs? thats my problem---my problems get worse at night when I get home and relax for the evening. afterall, that is primarily when I would take the most of them. When I go to bed (I have gone off of them once before, but not for long) the restless legs was the worst. I couldnt get comfortable no matter how i laid. I was so tired that all i wanted to do was sleep, but my body wouldnt let me. Im guessing the nausea and diarrhea and stomach cramps are just something thats characteristic of withdrawal. not much can be done yeah?

do you know anything about opiates lowering libido and if that ever comes back after you quit?

what about causing women to be sterile?

my fiancee got extremely mad at me last night because he looked up the long term effects of opiate abuse and said that ive been lying to him all along about what these can do to my body. i swear I didnt know, but he swears up and down that im nothing but a crack whoer- he calls it tough love. maybe thats what I need.


but anyways....if you can answer my questions I would love to hear from you.
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i dont think theres long term effects of reproduction and libido comes back.. (definatly) personally i think you need someone more supportive..could be just mad and venting though..
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i feel for u man..keep your head up, be stong, and dont ever takem again. it gets better. time..im curious how the immodium does..if it works let us know. there is alot of people lookin for help man..tc i heard 3 days in after like 6 tabs daily
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Sometimes I feel like I should get someone better to support me, but he's been there for me from the beginning. I know I need this shove that I'm getting from him, and I know one of these days ill thank him. But right now I just feel betrayed by him. But all in all, he's right. I need to do this. I need to do this for myself. I can't do it anymore n I looked at myself in the mirror today. I mean, I REALLY looked at myself. I never realized how dark the circles under my eyes are. I sleep all the time, but when I wake up it starts all over. I can stay up so late but sleep all day. They give me indegestion, they make me act like I normally wouldn't act and they make everything "better". You would think knowing all of the downfalls of them, I wouldn't use em. Yeah, right. Well as for now, I'm tapering down. The good news is that all of my connects are throuh my fiancée, so at least I know I won't be able to get my hands on em :) ill continue to post. By the way---as silly as it sounds I'm the kind of person that needs positive reinforcement. So all the kind words and sayings to keep me going is much appreciated :) hang in there everyone else. We can all do this together. One second, one minute, one day at a time.
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