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he goes through detox for 4-7days then WITHDRAWLS for up to 3 months. nothing really helps for sleep except xanax wich wont "replace one drug for another" cuz its not an opiate. Clonadine .2mg will slow his heart rate so he might sleep. I cant sleep at all on top of that im truley an insomniac... its not fun, but after a month he will get better. 2nd month alot better. 3rd month should be ending soon I honestly dont think nothing helps

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You know that lomotil is an opiate don't you? Not to worry unless you take about 20 at a time, which will stop WD pains.
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You're arrogant and depressing. Please just shut up. You're not helping anyone.
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Yes I am a ex heroin addict and have been a junkie for years. The best thing you can do is excercise, lifting weights releases endorphins which is the chemical in your brain that opiates release. Using methadone is bad bc that shiz is mad strong and longer half life which means withdrawals will last even longer..
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Suboxone withdrawal is the worst thing i have ever experienced in my life. i was prescribed 2 8 mg a day (60 a month) and did that for about 8 months and then stopped cold turkey. i felt like i was going to die for almost a week and a half. it was so much worse than an opiate withdrawal. definitely not worth it to stave of w/d or cravings.
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You should consider getting on methadone maintenance. It stops withdrawals, helps with pain and lasts 24 hrs. Fees are $40-$60 per week. Some programs take medicaid and some are free depending on where you live. At least check it out. Good Luck Rodger
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I agree with some of this. Anything energy drink makes me feel worse, but ice cream and hot baths with eucalyptus salts work wonders on the legs. And yes, I am taking a week off of work. I planned it ahead of time..kind of set a date.
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About 4 years ago I came to this site or one like it, there was great answers that I had and tried but didn't quite work our for me, so what I'm going to say is probably the best answer (IMO) of coursew, but it may not help you, but it sure has helped a lot of close friends from losing their lives
There only 3 things l agree by are with most other answers:
1.First try to taper down SLOWLY, even though it won't magically make it go away, it will make feel you better than going on ONE HUGE Binge and trying to quit.
2.Get moving. Start to forget about the horrible pains, think of how great in a couple days you'll feel. Think also,this last week really wans't that long ago right? A week won't feel as long either with my next week. You might not be a full 100% but you'll feel a whole lot better if you watch your favourite action movie and listen you music that moves you.
Here's the steps that worked amazingly for me and various friends, remember I was 11 years in, up to around 11 80mg OC in one day, in anyway, and if I ran out I'd fine some H., Fetenal or Hydromoprh's, etc. Hell I know how it feels even a handful of Percocet gives you some light of life.

""""Important Part""""

Take yourself down slowly, just to bypass the sickness
Go to a doctor, inform them you have anxiety and restless less syndrome and it runs through your family (Mother, Aunt), for the past two week you haven't been sleeping for almost 60 hours and than you just crash, which is affecting work and with your family, you get agitated easily. *Mention some life problems*
Make sure you say it's happened before but you can't remember the name of the drug you were prescribed and that your family doctor is on holidays, till next month or the end of the month and this is really messing up your life.
He will ask you this "Do you do drink or do drugs?"
Easy answer: "No drugs, but I quit drinking 2 weeks ago when this started"
Than he'll ask: "Do you smoke, or drink caffeine, or any pops like "Coke"
Answer: "As soon as this started I quit drinking anything with caffeine
Never admit anything about you taking drugs, you're a saint. I don't know if you do or not but it won't help
Make sure you say it's happened before but you can't remember the name of the drug you were prescribed and that your family doctor is on holidays, it was some of anti-anxiety, though.
This, so far has a 100% fool proof plan, it's bending the true a bit with a little white live, but it could possibly save your life.
Don't forget, NEVER USE ANTIANXIETY MEDS FOR MORE THAN A MONTH OR YOU COULD BE GOING THROUGH THE EXACT SAME THING, OR POSSIBLE OVERDOSE
Lorazapam/Xanax are the best, but be careful. It get's ride of restless leg syndrome and puts you to sleep, soon enough it''s all be over, you can even take it during the day incase you feel like your skin is crawling out. And remember, there's been a lot of people there too, and once you get clean you will feel on top of the world,
Also: Try to eat, even a little bit.

Good luck, hope all is well as it finally is for me, in a few weeks you'll be laughing. I'm 1 week through and I already
am.
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How are things going for you since this post?
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I'm personally going through withdrawals right now and have been searching online for ways to stop the cravings and the immense fatigue.   I've got numerous back injuries and was sent to pain management by my primary.  It started with percocet, then to 30mg of oxycodone (3 months span) 4 times a day.  So I would get 240 tablets per month.  This worked for a few years then I moved to 60mg.  This was fine and curbed the pain.  I went out on medical leave for an unrelated reason.  While I was out on leave, I was released from work.  This sent me into a state of depression, so my medication turned into a vice.  Then I was dropped by my insurance and couldn't see the same doctor.  So in searching for a local pain management doctor, I was told that I was taking way too much.  I honestly didn't think much of til it was brought to my attention.  I don't get "high", but it does give me the relaxed and comfortable feeling.  I've tried quitting, but after a month, the back pain is still  there and always will be.  So I've got my current doctor to prescribe 120  15mg tablets and because I wasn't thinking was taking 30 - 45mg at a time to actually relieve the pain.  Low and behold, a little over a week goes by and I'm out.  I feel I have a problem, but have the will power to stop.  I use to do other, main stream drugs and was able to stop cold turkey (and stayed off), as well as drinking and smoking.  But the back pain doesn't go away. 

 

So my question is this.  How do I stay off of pain meds and still function with the pain?  I've tried physical therapy, epidurals, facet blocks and none of them worked.  Am I an addict or am I just tolerant to the pain killers?

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Douglasewing9 i am wondering dhat this drug is for wd off like maybe methadone could 

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You are really rude. Everyone is different and what makes one WD maybe doesnt another person but no need to insult people..
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Who can get methadon? Is there anything else..
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I just quit about a month ago, I went through a 4 year battle with opiates. at my worst I was taking about 160mg's of the real oxy 80's. I went through a real rehab that gave me the tools to quit but unfortunately it wasn't the end of the road. I found a private doctor * psychiatrist* that let me quit at my own pace for long term addicts imo this is the best method. he gave me 2mg suboxone twice a day for about an additional 9 months, from an original 4 month start with suboxone, while going to rehab. dont let anybody tell you its harder to quit suboxone the longer your on it. taper at your own rate and when your ready to quit then you'll quit. If your not then you'll go back to your old habits. its just finding a doctor to let you do that is the trick, most of this pricks now want to tell you when they feel its time for you to quit and that just didnt work for me to put it simply. finally tapered off at .25mg of the 2mg suboxone per day. In my opinion it is the best way to get off. Stats show suboxone has 100% relapse rate and I was no different. But the w/d's are much easier to overcome *at least at .25mg of a 2mg pill of suboxone for a few weeks* for the actual withdraw phase by remaining abstinent from all opiates, what i did was I bought Imodium, it helps for the stomach pains you will be going through as well as diarrhea (i didnt have this but again I quit on a very lose dose) . Buy some niquil zzz's nightly sleep aid *non addictive* you'll need like 4-5 for the first few days but you'll sleep through a lot of the bs. Have some Tylenol/advil for the muscle pain and ache's. NO LIQUOR for at least the first 7-10 days. 10 would be the wise choice. This is OPTIONAL but it definitely helped me, weed. any grade would help if you live in a friendly state try to get some from a friend or from the doc if you have your licence. med grade completely took away any mental aspect of the w/d's for me anyway. And anything else you can think of that helps you personally during say the worst flu you ever had for about 6-7 days MAX then you get what i can the "i can do this" feeling and the rest is all pretty much cake from there. I'd say to have a lot of clean clothes handy because I had to change clothes due to sweating A LOT throughout the day. I still actually am sweating having to change about once a day and im right at about a month clean. Its only the armpits though at this point now for me which is easier to pass off to the general public. As for the Major withdraw pains and emotions in 7 days you'll feel like a new man again may still have some lingering VERY MINOR w/d's but nothing to worry about if you are serious about kicking. I used to read horror stories all over the internet scaring me into thinking maybe I couldn't quit and if you take anything from this post just know this: If you taper yourself right off of any pill 2 pills a day 1 pill a day 1/2 a pill a day 1/4 a pill a day 1/8th a pill a day if nec. IT MAKES IT SO MUCH EASIER!!! JUST DONT PANIC!!! this helped me the most at the first initial onset, as soon as i ran out and my taper was over my mind did start to think of what i could go out and buy to make it better but I just coached myself into staying calm and then I just accepted the terms of becoming clean again and made the choice to do so. it really is that simple a litle bit of pain for 4 years of f*****g up every aspect of my life was a mere speeding ticket in my journey through all this mess. the pain is all hype if you have the WILL you WILL find a way to quit plain and simple!
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Long-term opiate use under licensed pain management doctors' care....

Drugs do not discriminate between legal or illegal.  After sustaining multiple concussions and spinal injuries beginning over 30 years ago, the introduction of the prescription pain-killers became part of my life.  The list is long and well-known, from codeine, oxycodone, morphine, methadone, and darvocet-N (taken off market due to claims of its affect on heart function).  The dosages and drug prescription choices by various treating doctors became wider and stronger.  I have researched almost every day since the advent of the internet to public availability.  Initially at local colleges, then universities, in hopes that I could return to a productive life and career.  Several attempts were made with no lasting success.   Credentials had been built over the years since mid-teenage years.  i had really thought, at the time, that by the medications prescribed, that I could detract from it and be productive, just as discussed with the physicians.   Then, epidural injections into various spinal locations, with the content being injected only disclosed upon request, if one is lucky.  And coming from a lifestyle built upon heavy physical activity in initial career and following with weightlifting and cross-training, the prescribed medications were always questioned in my mind as to the effects on my health.  I then, placed my trust in the "pain management" specialists of the medical community, as the injuries, surgeries and emergency-room attempts to patch me up, were all including forms of heavy narcotic drugs.  Recognizing my addiction was the first step....   Next, after finally saying, NO MORE... I HAVE HAD ENOUGH! (Recognition and Ownership).  Just to my inner self, was the second step (commitment).  Since then, practically all the symptoms listed, including, frigidity (not just chills, I have had chills that come and go from low blood sugar or other reasons... I am talking freezing hands and feet.  With the heater on high, an electric blanket was purchased to keep warm.  Nervous irritability!  Stating busy was a great post, in theory, however, weakness of the body, especially the legs, persists.  Warming-to-hot baths, hot showers, at least three times per day.  Cold sweats, teeth may chatter and sleep?... The posts got it right.  Have someone help you.  Think of it as an investment in regaining your true self.  Being placed in a hospital as an option may sound fine, however, recall that the ride up with opiate or other addictive compounds was to make you comfortable or better, as with the high effect.  The ride down is what they all talk about... hell on earth.   Duration.... from what I have read and experienced, the longer a person is on such medications, the longer it takes to come off of them.   I have see the comments and claims of methadone, suboxone and others.  I would leave this message with a few general thoughts on the topic... First, going it alone is something that few can accomplish.  Those that do, my high praises.  Others that have doubts, may want to make calls to access assistance from loved ones and/or medical care providers trained in caring for such a journey(?).  

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