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I love that one the parents of noisy kids telling you to "move". Yeah, thats what the ankle bitters mother above me told me to do. I said I've been here for 7 yrs, and I have never had to deal with such a noisy kid in my entire life. I said besides I was here long before you.

Parents with kids who dictate what goes on in their homes, also dictate what happens in the homes of those living near them. Yet there are no laws for our quiet enjoyment of our homes, because noisy kids are somehow protected from such noise ordinances. It's really not fair to us. I applaud apartment buildings, or people who rent homes, who decide to not rent to people with kids. Teenagers I can handle. It's the kids who are 10 and younger, where parents let them run all over them, and others, who live near, and or around them.

My life is hell, since this family with 1 kid moved in above me. Complaints to management have fallen on deaf ears. The parents do nothing to prevent thier kid from disturbing me or others. I can only imagine what he is like in public. I could only imagine. It all starts with the parents, and if you dont teach your kids rules, and to respect others rights to live quitetly in their homes, then you are a failure as a parenting. But some type of law needs to go into affect. If there are noise ordinances for people who play loud music, and or have loud parties, then the same should be for kids. Especially in apartment buildings. The poeple above me do not put their kid to bed until 10:00-10:30. So I have to put up with his running back n' forth, and jumping heavily for 8 hours, every day. From 2:30- 10:00-10:30pm. Weekday, weekend, doesnt matter to them. I dont matter. Too bad for me. But given the amount of complaints that I have seen, and read on the web in recent weeks, this has become a huge problem for lots of people, all over the place. Im really surprised nothing more has been done, in regards to noisy kids. They need to be a part of city noise ordinances, and the "quiet enjoyment" of your home.
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Excellent post - We bought a home in Florida and the first couple of weeks it was wonderful. Quiet and peaceful and we were so happy that we had bought the home. Then it happened - the older couple up the street had their daughter and 8 year-old grandson and 6 year-old granddaughter move in with them. It has been non stop yelling, screaming, putting things in our mailbox, ringing the door bell, which caused us to call the police and then caught the boy with his Mom's lighter trying to start a fire! I tried to talk to the Grandmother but she is just overwhelmed with the grand kids so I am hoping that the children's Mother and they move soon! I don't know why parents allow their children to do this as I raised 5 sons and never would have let them scream and get into the kind of mischievousness these parents allow the children now to do!
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For your information, I'm against Darwinism because of that "Only strong survive" garbage.
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I am the mom of kids who scream. Sometimes I feel I cant take it anymore too. You, dear heart, are just a neighbor, imagine how those parents feel! Believe me, no parent *wants* a screaming child. It's stressful and embarrassing. But guess what? Some kids just scream. It might be a discipline problem, but I doubt it. More likely, this kid is feeling overwhelmed and can't cope. Kids don't scream like that for *fun* - it's not fun. its horrible. Think how awful you feel when you've had an alteration with someone and you're angry and upset. Is that fun? Of course not! to feel so terrible that you need to scream in the way that your neighbour's child does, suggests that there is something wrong. Two of my three kids have a sensory processing disorder, which means that their nervous systems function atypically. They find certain activities absolutely unbearable, things that would be a mild irritation or have no effect on you or me, are painful or terrifying to my kids. So, sometimes they scream. Because they really don't know what else to do. And neither do their parents. If they did know, they would do it. Trust me. It's even less fun for them than it is for you.
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That was an awesome answer and YOU are a person who is a great parent!! Wish we could clone you!! (I mean that in the best possible way!!
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Call the police every time it happens and say you think they are abusing their children as they are screaming uncontrollably.  Once the police have been there a few times, they might get the idea that the child's behaviour is not acceptable and do something about it.  If there is an issue in the home, getting the police in there will ensure something is done about it.

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It seems to me that you have angst, alittle envy pherhaps, and definately a cynical view-point, a view-point of which, is an imitation of the squeaks i hear all those who aspire to the high-minded, la-de-da-de etchelonsof society,because they are ashamed of their station upon the estates of urbanity!! what politician are you apeing! you use the word "breed" faily often: can you not understand thats it's a powerful innate drive, and urge, permeating the whole of creation; don't be so ignorant, for Gods sake... As for the underdeveloped parenting you hark on about, who's to blame for that... you got a goverment who wants robots out of people to work in stations of employment, not on merit, or enjoyment, but more often than not, against, and contrary, to thier heart and soul, hence their health and well-being!!!! many people i know off the estate, are not lazy, the've been maligned by an unjust education system, due to two reasons of function: 1* if daddy got a bank roll your a sucess regardless of your talent. 2* if not the school will only educate you to the point of being a condusive oppnent of the social matrix. So stop your gassing and splurting, and your pathetic nazi out-look typifiying who can breed and who carn't! The bible states, " go forth and mutiply in marridge", theres nowt about the poor, unbalanced, unhealthy souls to curtail this urge. So please shut up and think again.

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To guest on page 6, if the manager ignore your complaint. Complaint to the OWNER. I did it, and the owner phone the manager and make sure the manager have to solve your issue. And if the owner don't do anything about it, complaint the the Housing Authorities. (That is if you live in section 8 housing like I do)

Posters here are hearing noise from neighbours kids, I am suffering with noise from "unauthorize" guests of my neighbor. Noise coming from someone who is not even a resident here at where I live. Here is my story...

I live in low income housing here in US. Since our housing are being help pay by the government, they have very strict rules & regulations. Clearly one rule said that if anyone going to have long term overnight guests, they must report this to the housing manager/owner and let them know. Overnight guests are not allow to stay after the limitation or else they will become "unauthorize occupant" and this is against the lease.

My neighbor across from me for the past one week bring home 3 guests and let they live in her apartment. Guests including a dad, mom and an infant baby who crying on and off all night. What worst is my neighbor did Not report this to the housing authorities, that means she already break the rules.

I told her that if she have guests stay overnight she suppose to let the manager knows. Ha! She give me the attitude like it her apartment, she can have anyone to live in. This is a big wrong! You rent low income housing to live in, it is not your property. She also say "this family are going to stay with her until they find a house", this is also a big No No, because it give an impression that she have the intention of letting this family shelter in her house until they find a place to live. And this is also big No, because you live in government housing, it is not your own home.

I went to report her to the manager, I ask the manager to check into her guests and make sure she follow the lease. Manager are checking into this.

"Guests" are someone who live at another address coming over to visit you. These 3 people she have in her house currently have no home, so they staying with her until they find a house. The housing authorities said these guests are "Unauthorize" because she never report to the housing. And if she cannot show proof of these guests current address, then she just giving them shelter.

Got this when searching around:"If you do not have an unauthorized occupant...you should gather evidence to show that the person does not live with you. Examples of this type of evidence include the following:A copy of that person's lease showing where they do live. A copy of that person's driver's license with an address clearly indicated. Copies of the outside of envelopes addressed to that person, such as utility bills, car payments, or credit card bills.A signed statement by the person that says he or she does not live with you and giving his or her actual address.Once you have the evidence, write a letter to the housing authority and explain the situation."

I think this is what the neighbor needs to prove to the housing. And if she cannot prove that then her 3 guests cannot stay there anymore unless they on the lease. I hope this solve soon, I want my peace back. There is a big difference between hearing a baby crying all night from someone who is a Legal Tenant, and hearing crying all night from someone who are "Unauthorize" guests. Clearly she is abuse the housing system by thinking she can shelter them until they find a house. With 2 adults and an infant crying baby, certainly sooner or later, other neighbors will notice and report them.

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And some people just are selfish and inconsiderate. Especially if you living in housing,wall to wall, when it is other people sleeping hours, at least have some manners, such as close your window if the baby crying nonestop throughout the night.

1) I don't care what guests they have. As long as they keep their guests quiet after the hours so the whole neighbor can sleep.

2) section 8, we are wall to wall, we can hear our neighbors whether we want to or not. If it is after hours, being considerated, keep quiet as possibles of others neighbors can have their sleep.

3) Section 8 are pays by tax payer money, if you getting section 8, you better goes by the rules, don't abuse it.

4) This is not their guests. This is possibly my neighbor give them shelter until they find a home. Her guests are 3 people, including an infant baby that cries all night and not letting people sleep. Can I bring in a baby next wall to your apartment and let it cries on and off all night? Let me see how you feel.

5) There is a difference between a legal resident that lives there, and "unauthorize" guests, at least know your duty, report your guests to management, at least let them know they are there. Don't wait till other neighbors complaint.

6) If their time is up, and they cannot show proof of their real address, they will be "unauthorize occupant", and that is a big No, when you live in section 8. Section 8, you rent the apartment, it is not your property, what make you think you have the rights to let people live with you until they find a house?

7) Here in California, when you have a infant baby, you can get welfare. Even if the father lost his job, he can get unemployment. This 3 guests can easily go apply for welfare and get helps especially with a baby. That if they are U.S citizen or is permanent residents here in USA.

8) I am Vietnamese and the neighbor of mine is also Vietnamese. And I can tell you how Asian people is, they bring people over to live, lying through marriage to get U.S passport to come here to USA. Working undertable get pay cash so they can avoid pay taxes. I'm not saying my neighbor's guests are doing this, I am giving you example of what I know in my own community.

9) What if, I say IF ok, my neighbor's guests are just people that just come from Vietnam, and have no where to stay and just staying at her apartment until they find a place. Here in section 8, you cannot do that. That is illegal, because if anything happen to that 3 guests while on this section 8 property, who going to be responsible? Who going to be responsible for them?

10) If guests want to live in section 8, fine, get them on the lease, go through background check. And if you are legal residents or U.S citizens, I welcome them and their annoying crying baby with open arms. Until they prove that, they are not legal residents here in section 8.

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I have raised two kids. I taught them they weren't the only people on the planet and to behave in a way that considered other people. It wasn't difficult and it turns out that consistency of message and accountability for not being respectful were just what was needed to create decent human beings. And they enjoyed their childhood. Kids do not need to scream to have a good time. Parents do not have to allow the behavior. Simple.
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I live in a wall-to-wall block and found this post because I'm tired of my neighbour's toddler having regular daily tantrums. I do think it's because he is up to all hours (I'm in bed long before he is) and is no doubt exhausted, hence the screaming and whinging and crying. I don't know the full circumstances though, I only know what I can hear. I went around there but nobody answered, so I am going to write a note to explain I can hear the tantrums and can they please try to keep their son's noise down after hours? I am also going to ask if there is anything I can do as well. At the end of the day, we can all sit inside our homes seething and judging our neighbours on their parenting skills and peering through the curtains and calling them assholes under our breath... But has anyone of you every spoken to your neighbours to ask if there's anything you can do to help? With the exception of those violent or truly troublesome families (the real ones - not the ones you've simply assumed are so), your neighbours will probably be embarrassed to realise the noise is upsetting the people either side of them. It's easy to say "they should consider the noise affecting others" - perhaps they just don't realise. Perhaps they've got enough on their plate. You don't know if the kid DOES have behavioural problems, or even an illness, or perhaps the parents for one reason or another can't cope. It's good that we can all come on here and vent our problems, but it scares me how aggressively insular we've all become. You don't have to offer to babysit, but just showing support for another human being is valuable. And if anything, it will help your case when asking your neighbour to make your life easier too, and try to reduce the noise.

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Isn't it interesting how personally people take any possible criticism about children. Have it straight. It is your fault.

Older Children scream gratuitously because of bad parenting (unless they have developmental issues.) End of. If my child screamed, there would have to have been a good reason. And yes, I am a mother.

Gratuitous, incessant screaming appears to be something that people who are incapable of parenting inflict upon the rest of us in an "If I have to suffer, you can share it" fashion.

You're not their friend, you're their parent. You're supposed to show them how to behave. By all means scream if there is danger. They should. But not all day every day.

Isn't it ludicrous that as a dog owner, I'm supposed to train an animal with the max IQ of a 4 year old to be quiet and sociable, but that parents of children older that toddlers can just let them make as much noise as they like, wherever, whenever, without sanction."They're just being kids?" Not being murdered, then. Just killing the peace.

This is an extreme source of stress to anyone who actually responds emotionally and physically to a child screaming. It is impossible to relax.

Doesn't bother the neighbour bad parent next to me (screamers 7 & 10 years old, with many screaming friends who visit daily), he just puts in his earphones and leaves me to listen to it. Or starts some hammering, door slamming or a bonfire, but that's another whole topic.

Why is screaming of children over 5 not classed as a noise nuisance? My neighbours can be heard over 100 yards away. Their piecing shrieks would wake the dead. Where are my Human Rights? Less important than theirs?

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Most of us do mind our own business and yes, children do go through phases but there are also some parents out there that just don't give is $hit about other people's rights and they don't teach their children to care about other people's rights. I have had children who are both now grown up and I taught both of them to behave themselves and mind their manners. They were encouraged to play outside and have fun but it they got too rowdy, I told them to pipe down and if they didn't they were made to come inside. I cared about my neighbours and I taught my children to be considerate. Maybe those of you who are quick to say 'mind your own business' should also mind your own business, and and the end of the day your business is to discipline your children and teach them to respect the rights of others.
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Correction, noisy feral brats NEED discipline !!!!!!
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It's very sad that any child is autistic or has other intellectual issues.  Obviously if this young man is autistic, he can't help his behaviour. But at the end of the day, everyohe has rights including his neighbours.  They have a right to a peaceful life and a right to be able to have a peaceful sleep in their own beds at night !!!!!

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