I know what your dealing with, my daughter who is 11 used to be friends with a 10 year old who is our neighbor, i had taken my daughters ipod away, and this 10 year old young lady called my daughter a very terribble curse word, i had called the moher, and it took time, her daughter said my daughter was a brat and was lying, i just hate that whole family, they really dont control themselves, and just yesterday, my daughter was playing with another girl on the street, and this neighbor of ours, is 10 years old, and to try to make my daughter jealous she invited a friend over, the girl kept kicking the soccer ball on my lawn, so my daughter said to the girl "Why dont you keep things on your own lawn, like your soccer ball, and dog poop. the neighbor was fuming red, and my daughter was just done with an annoying neighbor like that, not to mention, they let their dog walk around with no leash or anything and she pooops on everyones lawn except her own. Neighbors like this need to be sat down with and have a talk.
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/My son is autistic he screams all the time dosnt need much sleep and is up most of the night every night, I feel for my neighbours I really do but I do my best and believe me no way of teaching right and wrong works easily for a child who is autistic, everything is so much more complicated for them, maybe you should think about things like this without assuming its just a case of the parents teaching them whats right. The parent probably feels a lot worse about you do for this, any parent of an autistic child deserves a medal! Most parents of children who don't have any disabilities couldn't cope a day with an autistic child there is no way they listen to everything you are saying, so before being selfish and thinking you have put up with some noise. Think how hard your neighbours lives must be every day.
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If you did not have enough foresight to move into a neighborhood that suits your privacy needs (ie: one with houses on large private lots or strict HOA ordinances) take some personal responsibility for your own situation. Neighbors are constantly stepping on eachother's toes for one reason or another; at this very moment I'm having issues with my neighbor's tree roots pushing debris into my septic system causing blockages. A year ago I had a neighbor who owned 3 pit bulls that would constantly bark and growl, jumping well above and almost over their fence. Having to load 3 small children in a car while that is going on behind you is more than a little concerning. Your rights are not god-given, they are law-given. There are no laws restricting the amount of noise a child can make; therefore, you have no right to enjoy a life free from screaming toddlers. We all live in a society and have to give up individual freedoms and pleasures to do so. May not seem fair at times, but neither is calling a child who may have autism, sensory disorders, other painful medical problems, etc. a "brat". I like the idea of asking what you can do to help come up with a solution as another poster suggested. If your going to live in such close proximity to other humans it may be beneficial to learn something about them before you judge them.
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How about thiose who have been parents and don't want to put up with that sh*t anymore?
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OMG me too! It's just starting to get warm enough here to open the windows and I can't because the beasts who live next door just literally stand out side and scream. When I was little I remember playing games, drawing with chalk on the sidewalk, taking walks with my mom and dad... When did screaming for no reason become acceptable? I sympathize with you! And no, we can't just ask our neighboors to tell their kids to be quite. We don't have children ( for SO many reasons) but I'm pretty sure parents wouldn't take too kindly to us asking them to quite the kids down. People get nutty over stuff like that...
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You may be right you may be wrong. Every child is different and may scream or cry because of several unknown and specific reasons. My 4 year old son likes to tell his 5 year old sister (who is mildly autistic) what to do, this drives her completely crazy and she will scream at the top of her lungs when he does it.
Because you don't have children, one important factor is missing from your judgment; This is the unequivocal and unconditional love that a mother (parent) has for her/their child(ren). The only way to experience this is by becoming a parent. For me, I have a hard time telling my children "no" because, growing up my mother seemed to always say "no" to me. Therefore, because of this, I tend to spoil my children a little but when it comes to being mischievous and disruptive I try very hard to put a stop to it. Sometimes it is very difficult for me to control them and no matter what I do, they will not mind me. I no longer have my mother or my brother around to help me, and because we have had to move so much, I have no friends for support. I look at it this way, until you truly know someone and exactly why their children are screaming, it is very difficult to judge or be judgmental.
For me, my daughter is autistic and autistic children tend to be very loud and will scream at times. I have been going to the same church all my life, along with my parents and my parents parents...... and I am on the verge of never attending again because, our bishop took it upon himself the other day while having a discussion in his office, to tell us that "our kids are the only kids (at our building location) that won't sit still. I'm sorry but my son JUST turned 4 and my daughter is 5 and I just find it really hard to believe that children of the same age put in this same small room would be able to sit still in a chair for very long either!!?? At any rate, some children are simply just more difficult than other children and until you have walked a day in my shoes and have been through all the c**p that we have recently had to deal with, you really can't in all honesty, judge me or any other parent that has a disruptive child.
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Replying to "Guest" about the fan noise to drown out the screaming child (ren). This post is funny and creative. I have the same problem, having lived in my home for 25 years, the next door house is a rental. At first I tried to play jazz all day, to enjoy time in my backyard. That worked until the children next door became immune to it. So, I am using the fan, and it is a little bit irritating, but it really does help. I, like one of the other posts, took childhood development. Also, I'm a mom. My child is 24 and is well mannered, and always was, BECAUSE my parents and my husband would not tolerate tantrums, nor screaming. We explained to him at a very young age, that if he screamed, we would assume he was hurt, or in trouble, and to do so would alarm us, as well as others. He got it. Children like perameters, and thrive on guidance. The little children who live next to us now seem to have nice parents. Broaching a dialogue about the screaming is a tricky issue, but this forum has helped me immensely. Thanks to all who have posted here. I may just print some of the comments, and discretely leave them in an envelope on the doorstep next door. Maybe these folks will get the hint.
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I live in an apartment building. We have by-laws for our building that gives everyone the right to a quiet living environment.
... Do the parents of the screeching parents care? Nope. Noise complaint after noise complaint has yielded nothing other than a warning letter and 3 days of "peace" (only 1 hour of outdoor screaming).
Now, do I blame myself? Sorry, parents who say "you don't understand," no. I blame you. I blame the way you deal with the issues. This could stem from a long line of deep rooted issue filled child screamers in the family but I don't care. You are ruining my life. YOU... not your child. You need to smarten up. Take control. Be the parent they are screaming for and shut them down as soon as it starts. Have some respect for your neighbors. Have some respect for you own homestead. Do you know what happens if you don't? You get a loud mouth, undisciplined teenager. That's when you'll wish you put your foot down when they were a child. Then, do you know what those people become? Undisciplined parents who allow THEIR child to scream. Take some responsibility. Be dominant. Control your life. Control your child. Raise a polite child. That will make everyone happy, even you.
Best of luck to everyone who has this issue but most of all, best of luck to the parents who just don't do what they are suppose to (yes, I am talking to you). You're going to have a rough life when they grow into their teens.
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I am in the same boat. The development I live in used to have few children - now it is overrun with screaming children. I agree it is a lack of discipline. We have one neighbor who takes control and you never hear their children throwing a tantrum or just screaming for attention vs another woman whose child scream constantly because it is not getting its way. Sure, children should be children within boundaries. There is no reason a child show be screaming unless it is hurt.
What can we do? Give us a suggestion, parents! I think the woman who posted to turn up music was really smart. I am at my wits end and the only thing I can think of is SCREAMING BACK!!!
In today's world, we have taught our children urgency and having things now, the way we want. It has become a sad nation. All my dad had to do to keep us in line was give us the look:)
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My neighbour same thing omg her children she tells to scream on purpose to anoy me and do this outside my window run through the flats too. I went round and made the mistake at 6am by saying do you think you could stop them from screaming today please? yesterday in the evening I heard no tv "he told me to get stuffed said, we lived here longer than you don't lie my children are asleep at 6pm." worst part I don't have blinds so now they stuck seats outside to watch through my window this is invasion of privacy. Think that's bad they now doing up stolen bikes at 9pm police don't give a hoot either. Terrible and they play music off and on. They scream they shout and the children even hit my cat with sticks. Yeh these are neighbours form hell.. they even make their dog howl by hitting it. seriously wish I didn't move here place is lovely but the people awful, I cna't even sit outside and tan because they are friendly witht he other neighbours. all my neighbours i nto drugs drink sx violence. I am not so they hate me. I hate my neighbours..they suck I want a better palce to live but got no money so can't move.One neighbour has MS and drinks all day then parties and picks up prostis...yeh from the place with the screaming kids...( nice huh that place runs a brotherl) tell cops don't care do they! I am grossed out by what the world has become. other thing my neighbour with MS fancies me so now he's started threatening me..GOD I need a boyfriend and I need to move just not this weirdo of a drunk lol!
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Barrit, I hear your pain. When a child never stops screaming, it's NOT natural. I've worked with children for years and this behaviour is at best a sign of extremely poor discipline by the parents. If the child is constantly SCREAMING, make no mistake, the child is being abused, be it neglect, lack of proper socialisation or frightening the child. I have first hand experience as a neighbour of hearing a mother abuse her children and lo and behold, they ended up screaming more frequently than they inhaled air. Why should adencet, hardworking adult have to put up with this eternal wearing on his or her nerves, especially when the child is not theirs? The parent is showing a total lack of respect for the child, for other people, for the child's environment and needs. It shows a heightened sense of the parent's entitlement to have everything their own selfish way. Well, you reap what you sow. To the parents, I say Good luck when the inevitable lack of socialisation turns up at your door in the form of a cop car after your child's 15th arrest. To you Barrit, I say, get proof then call social services. They know theyre breaching your peace. To all you parents who think unlimited noise is ok, it's not and you know it. Those of you intelligent parents know Im not referring to a couple hours of play in the garne screeching intermittenly. I said CONSTANT SCREAMING. Thats 24/7 for Barrit.
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This is just to say that I agree with everything you say. In my opinion the government should start a campaign to stamp such behaviour and if necessary pass some laws giving people the right to peace and quiet.
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Have the same problem and on attempting to discuss it with the 38 year old parent, their arrogance and sense of entitilement was what I have grown to expect. As a retired couple, we find it shameful to have worked all our lives to contribute to the world we live in and be yelled at , told to move etc. In no way were they capable of discussing the issue but simply feel it is all about their need to do whatever they like. Having lived in 2 other family neighbourhoods unlike this, we are at a loss to know what to do. I feel the world is in terrible condition as well due to this type of self-centredness being passed from parent to child. Glad to be at the autumn of my life as I don't think things will get better. I understand that I was experiencing ageism and elder abuse.
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