I've been on Suboxone for the last 2 months. I started at 12mg/day, and have recently this past week gotten down to 1.5-2mg/day. I actually tried to stop last week after taking 1mg/day for 4 days, but started feeling pretty bad the very next 2 days, and decided to go back to the doctor to put me on a little more suboxone for the coming week... which he did. Today I took the last 0.5mg of Suboxone that I had. I'm very nervous about what the next few days will be like, but I've come to realize something even more important. Being an addict of opiates for 4 years prior to getting on suboxone, and even while taking the suboxone for the last 2 months, I've realized that I'm continually looking for something outside of my own self to make me feel better. I tried suboxone 2 times in the past couple of years as well, and both times I was unsuccesful and returned to opiates within weeks of being off of the Suboxone. I truly believe that 95% of the depression, anxiety, lack of energy etc... are all psychological. I'm not saying that all of us who are experiences "terrible" withdrawl symptoms from the Suboxone, are psychologically screwed up, but the most unfortunate part of being an addict is that are brains are always going to tell our bodies that we need something put in us, to make us feel better... I think it's probably wise to take a couple of days to "grieve" over not being on the Suboxone anymore, but don't stay there too long. Life is going to go on with, or without you. I know for damn sure that I'm tired of missing out on EVERYTHING that I should be experiencing in life. I've put myself through enough stress over the last several years to last a lifetime for anybody... I don't need that BS in my life anymore... I'm going to take the next couple of days to rest, relax, and just basically try to retrain my brain into realizing that I DON'T need any outside substances in order to have a good day. It of course won't be simple, but once I stop bitching and moaning about not having anything to take anymore to make me feel better... the sooner I'll be able to move past this whole experience and stop missing out on the things I want to experience in life. Bottom line... my only suggestion to those going through the "withdrawl, depression, anxiety, lack of energy etc..." b/c of getting off the Suboxone, is to not stay in that place/mindset too long. That's going to be the cause of your relapse, and that negativity that you're allowing to remain within yourself is going to rob you of everything you deserve in life... If we can get over the opiate addication, then we can certainly get over the Suboxone "withdrawl" too. Once you've decided that you've had ENOUGH of feeling lousy, unethusiastic, miserable, lonely, hungry etc... get your ass up and live your life! Down the line you'll regret it more than anything, if you don't get up and move on!!! Let's stop being lazy, and realize that there are people who struggle every day with MUCH more serious issues than we have. Thank God for allowing you to wake up for another day, instead of insisting that he get you out of this mess... HE'S not the one who got you into it, so don't expect Him to come running to your rescue... Show everyone else, and most importantly, show YOURSELF that you're worth it! That's all I have to say...
You have some good motivational things to say.. But suboxone withdrawal is not all psychological as you portray. Take it from someone who has kicked almost every opiate known since 1990. Suboxone is THE hardest and longest withdrawal I have experienced. It is not as severe as coming off heroin, methadone, oxy, whatever. cold turkey. But the effects go away MUCH faster.
What people are going through IS REAL. I am more experienced at this than I care to admit. Positive thinking and getting active are excellent advice, and not wasting another precious moment obsessed with what opiate dependency seems to instill in its victims is not without merit. The thing I suggest about suboxone.... Don't!!! The pharmaceutical companies love repeat business and have created a way to keep addicts addicted legally. Stay away from it... You will be back on your feet a thousand times quicker with out it
What people are going through IS REAL. I am more experienced at this than I care to admit. Positive thinking and getting active are excellent advice, and not wasting another precious moment obsessed with what opiate dependency seems to instill in its victims is not without merit. The thing I suggest about suboxone.... Don't!!! The pharmaceutical companies love repeat business and have created a way to keep addicts addicted legally. Stay away from it... You will be back on your feet a thousand times quicker with out it
I have been on subs for over 4 years now. Since I started the program. I constantly asked my doctor to start my taper. They had me on 24 mgs a day. after a long time of dealing with their BS, I decided to skip those two extra pills a day. I was completely fine, nothing changed in my body and I tapered myself down 16 mgs. After about a year on 8mgs, I decided that that was too much also. So I started a gradual tapering. I started taking 3/4 a sub then after a couple weeks I would take 1/2 a sub. To be completely honest, the only time I noticed a difference was when I tapered down to about 1.5- 2 mgs a day. At that point, if I was working hard or worked out i noticed at night I would start to feel some kind of minor withdrawal. That is why I would advise taking your subs at night when you go to bed, it will help relax you and definitely help with your sleep.
Now comes the 0 mg days... I am currently on my seventh day off suboxone. I will be completely honest with you. If you taper off the way I explained, you will start to have some symptoms of w/d the first day, but you will be able to deal with it. The w/d will be at the worst on your 3-4th day off. Now I am on my seventh day and I am still feeling w/d. I have heard they can last up to a couple weeks to anywhere up to a couple months. Don't let that discourage you. There are other non-opiate meds that can be prescribed to help your coping after you have finished your w/ds that really do help. Now I have done cold turkey before previously when I was an opiate addict. I can tell you right now, this w/d is nothing like w/d from being on 3-4 oxys a day. It is much more manageable during the day. I advice doing something to keep you busy, I think "Call of Duty" works just fine for me. MOST IMPORTANT take your VITAMINS!! You should be taking a daily multi, vitamin C, Iron, and a vitamin called SAM-E. SAM-E will naturally help with raising your serotonin and dopamine levels which is the cause for your w/d. At night I would advise taking a sleep aid vitamin, just go to any vitamin store and ask what is the strongest sleep aid, every place has something different. Nights are usually the worst so if your having trouble, don't be afraid to see your doctor, they will most likely put you on something like clonadine which will relax you. Nights have been the worst for me so far, but hey...I'm managing. Trust me if I can do it, you can do it.
Good luck to all of you that are making the right choice to free your body of these "crutches" and feel free to respond to this if you have any questions on my experience. By the time most of you read this, I'll most likely be a free man from all opiates and I'll be glad to help anyone who asks for it. GOOD LUCK!
Now comes the 0 mg days... I am currently on my seventh day off suboxone. I will be completely honest with you. If you taper off the way I explained, you will start to have some symptoms of w/d the first day, but you will be able to deal with it. The w/d will be at the worst on your 3-4th day off. Now I am on my seventh day and I am still feeling w/d. I have heard they can last up to a couple weeks to anywhere up to a couple months. Don't let that discourage you. There are other non-opiate meds that can be prescribed to help your coping after you have finished your w/ds that really do help. Now I have done cold turkey before previously when I was an opiate addict. I can tell you right now, this w/d is nothing like w/d from being on 3-4 oxys a day. It is much more manageable during the day. I advice doing something to keep you busy, I think "Call of Duty" works just fine for me. MOST IMPORTANT take your VITAMINS!! You should be taking a daily multi, vitamin C, Iron, and a vitamin called SAM-E. SAM-E will naturally help with raising your serotonin and dopamine levels which is the cause for your w/d. At night I would advise taking a sleep aid vitamin, just go to any vitamin store and ask what is the strongest sleep aid, every place has something different. Nights are usually the worst so if your having trouble, don't be afraid to see your doctor, they will most likely put you on something like clonadine which will relax you. Nights have been the worst for me so far, but hey...I'm managing. Trust me if I can do it, you can do it.
Good luck to all of you that are making the right choice to free your body of these "crutches" and feel free to respond to this if you have any questions on my experience. By the time most of you read this, I'll most likely be a free man from all opiates and I'll be glad to help anyone who asks for it. GOOD LUCK!
I am dealing with everything everyone is talking about. I am on day 6 of no suboxone. I cant sleep, my joints hurt, and I wonder if i will ever rest the same. But I promise you all one thing, I am never going back cause I never want to deal with this again!!
I have been on 8 mgs for about a year i unfortunately did not taper down. Recently i went on a cruise and figured to throw over board my perscription so i had no choice but to quit. I am now on day 8 of no subs i cant sleep, my whole body aches and i just want to know when it will be over it feels like never. I just want to take some type of pill to rid me of my withdraw, im vomiting, diahreah all the good stuff and its the worst i thought subs were the miracle drug by feeling no wds while on them but now wish i never started taking them at all. Although i never went through opiate wds cause i was put on subs before i did. Good luck to all going through the same and keep the faith its hard but we cant stay like this forever there is much more to life. We need to be depended on not depend on narcotics or subs. God Bless All!!
I just got off subs after being on it for 2.5 years. I jumped off of 8mg. I was on 16 for most of the ride. I'm currently on day 17. The 2 week mark is when I noticed some nice improvements in comfort. I've forced myself to lift weights, drink protein shakes, drink water, eat as much as I can, socialize with friends, and take a lot of showers. The first week was hell, the second week is just annoying because the fatigue lingers. If you're going to lift don't do legs too heavily, you will regret it. I've lost about 10 lbs even though i've been eating well. I think it's mostly from crapping my brains out. If you're going to quit, at the very least get a sleeping pill and a benzo or Clonidine prescribed to you. It has been a pretty rough experience, but you won't die. I think Suboxone is easier to quit than real dope because your body and mind aren't anywhere near as fragile as they would be if you were scrounging for Percocet or the like. Best of luck to anyone trying to quit.
At the end of September I got a script for 32mg a day. I sold half of them, and took the other half pretty randomly. I basically took what I felt like I needed when I felt like I needed it. When I got down to the last of it I started taking 2mg a day. When I ran out it was Nov 21st. 4 days in I felt like hell. And then it was Thanksgiving. . .I was thinking of blowing off the holiday, but my brother reminded me that I gave him some of my subs when I filled the script. He gave the 6 subs back to me, and I took them over the next 10 days.
Well now I'm on day 5, and I must say the withdrawal symptoms are much more mild than they were the first time. I'm constantly fatigued, a little bit achy, I have a tendency to get cold, and I sweat, especially when I sleep. I think the most irritating part is the sweat constantly dripping from my armpits. EWWWWW, I know. Taking LOOOONG hot showers makes me feel way better for many hours, since the withdrawal is mild. The cravings are getting pretty extreme though.
PERSONALLY, I have found with any opiates I have done that it helps to go into withdrawals for a bit, then use a little bit, and sea-saw back and forth like that a few times before stopping completely. It always seems to ease the withdrawals. It also helps you get used to feeling like c**p, and when feeling like c**p becomes somewhat normal, it's much easier to deal with.
It can be hard to do, but if you can manage it I strongly advise at least getting out and walking around. If you feel well enough to hang out with a friend for a while, all the better. It can really make you forget about how sh***y you feel.
Although it's not a problem this time, I know from experience how bad the insomnia can get when going through withdrawals. In the past I would be running on so little sleep my head would start to spin. It doesn't make much sense, and I can't guarantee it will work for you, but I found that drinking a lot of coffee would straighten out my head quite a bit.
Also, for anyone who is thinking about getting on suboxone - if you don't want to go through withdrawals only take it for 3 or 4 days and then stop. This is what I did the first time, and although I felt pretty terrible for those days I was on the suboxone because I took it too soon (precipitated withdrawal), I had zero withdrawals after stopping the suboxone. I didn't do that this time because I felt like I needed something for maintenance so I wouldn't relapse, but now I'm questioning that decision.
Well now I'm on day 5, and I must say the withdrawal symptoms are much more mild than they were the first time. I'm constantly fatigued, a little bit achy, I have a tendency to get cold, and I sweat, especially when I sleep. I think the most irritating part is the sweat constantly dripping from my armpits. EWWWWW, I know. Taking LOOOONG hot showers makes me feel way better for many hours, since the withdrawal is mild. The cravings are getting pretty extreme though.
PERSONALLY, I have found with any opiates I have done that it helps to go into withdrawals for a bit, then use a little bit, and sea-saw back and forth like that a few times before stopping completely. It always seems to ease the withdrawals. It also helps you get used to feeling like c**p, and when feeling like c**p becomes somewhat normal, it's much easier to deal with.
It can be hard to do, but if you can manage it I strongly advise at least getting out and walking around. If you feel well enough to hang out with a friend for a while, all the better. It can really make you forget about how sh***y you feel.
Although it's not a problem this time, I know from experience how bad the insomnia can get when going through withdrawals. In the past I would be running on so little sleep my head would start to spin. It doesn't make much sense, and I can't guarantee it will work for you, but I found that drinking a lot of coffee would straighten out my head quite a bit.
Also, for anyone who is thinking about getting on suboxone - if you don't want to go through withdrawals only take it for 3 or 4 days and then stop. This is what I did the first time, and although I felt pretty terrible for those days I was on the suboxone because I took it too soon (precipitated withdrawal), I had zero withdrawals after stopping the suboxone. I didn't do that this time because I felt like I needed something for maintenance so I wouldn't relapse, but now I'm questioning that decision.
I'm a medical transcriptionist, and found this thread while researching the medication on a report. This poor man is completely addicted to Suboxone, but the doctor suggested he should go on a 12 step program for marijuana use. WTF? He had a motorcycle accident years ago and was given all these opiates he got addicted to, and now the Suboxone. They ruined his life with prescription drugs, but he should be worried about smoking a little weed? Ugh! DOCTORS!!! That's just ignorance. >;)
I am on day 2 or 3 and listing to my mp3 player with all my songs and hot baths orange juice I still feel like my bones are growing out of my hips.But I have been using my dr. persicbled caolapin and smoking some weed and I didn't like weed ,Iam been able at times feel ok but we have too,stick to it guys one day we all will say holy c**p that sucked.But we will do it Ill back with more info as the days go on I have to work tomorrow.Give me some luck please.....
I am also trying to kick subs. I have been on 12mgs of sub for at least two years. The subs got me off of oxy, and i ma glad for that. But its time to kick the subs. I am currently on my 4th full day without anything, the 1st two days were just kind of mental. The last two days have been horrible. Sick to my stomach puking body aches is absoulty horrible. I havent missed a day of work yet, and i am trying to stay busy so i dont think about it. Also i have these horrible cold and hot spells. I slept ok for the 1st two nights, but last night was the worst, it felt like everytime i went to sleep somebody was hitting me with a bat in my arms, i tossed and turned constantly, prolly got two hours of sleep maybe. I did not taper off like i was supposed to, i feel like if i taper its going to take another 2 years and then i prolly still be on them. I have two sub strips in my pocket at all times, and until today, i havent wanted to really take them. I just keep hoping the next day will be better, but it never is. How long will this c**p last? I hear so many diff time frames, if it last more than two weeks, i dont think i will make it.If i could just go back in time to the 1st time i was offered a pill i would kick my own a__s. Could somebody tell me how long its going to take. And some things to do to keep it from being so bad. I just got to kick subs, i just got too. I have to move on with my life.
After reading all these posts all I can say is WOW.... WTF is the point of me even kepping on the subs if I have to go through this sh*t eventually anyway? Seems like regardless of the dose or amoun of time taking the meds the wd's are the same...horrible. I've been through wd's many times over the last year trying to get clean, longest I made it was 12 days. Worst 12 days of my life but I was feeling way better on day 12 and could see a huge difference in the way I functioned. My dealer got out of jail and i thought f**k it one more time won't hurt... f**k... Started where I left off. Ended up banging almost a gram a day before I stopped this time. I'm on day 8 with no h. First 5 I took oc's to keep from wding. Then i went to the doc and got subs. First day I took 6 mg and still felt like sh*t. Second day I took 16 and none yesterday or today (3:16am) and feel fine besides can't sleep. But if I have to go through it eventually what's the point besides being able to function til I can save up for some time off to detox? How have I ever let myself come to this?? I hate myself for what I have become but want to get better SO BADLY!!! You aren't alone feeling like this and I hope every single one of you make it through this rough journey and come out healthy and strong once again!!!
Merry Xmas,
sketty
Merry Xmas,
sketty
If you are looking for answer of how long you are in this for unfortunately you will never find it. I have wd from oc's, H, and subs. My first time wd from the subs only lasted 3-4 days. I was taking 2 8mgs for 3 months and I cut my doses down myself. Went down to 2mgs a day for bout a month and jumped. WDs were bad but not as bad as the 1's from the other drugs. Jumped on Wed tried to go to work but went home called out next 2 days, Sun brand new. To bad for me I haven't learned from my own mistakes which is why I'm tell you to maybe help someone else. This is now the 2nd time coming of subs. 10 times worse than the first. I was taking 4mgs for bout 5 months cut down to 2mgs for a months and jumped again on Christmas. Had that Mon and Tues off work so figured I had plenty of time. OOOPPPSSS. Not so much this time. I also work 2 jobs now so Wed I work them both. So I will answer I question I saw here a few times DO NOT TAKE ANY SUBS WHEN COMING OFF OF THEM IT DOES RESTART THE CLOCK. I took .5mgs Wed to make it through the 2nd job and Thursday felt ok for awhile until I noticed everything starting to come back. Friday was bad had to work though and both jobs again had to take another .5mgs. Now I'm on day 12 wd's or what I like to call day 6 because of the 1mg over 3 days I took. But finally starting to feel better.
The best things you can do to make it easier better and faster. Eat I know you don't want to but your body WILL NOT HEAL WITH OUT FOOD. If you don't believe me when you get better don't eat for 4 days and I'll guarantee you that you like sh$t. Drink lots of Gatorade or pedia lite you need the electrolytes. Get up no matter how hard I pushed my through work this whole week so far. Not easy not fun but it will help with your depression in many ways. You are not laying around thinking about how miserable you are. You get to interact with people which is key. You feel as though you have a purpose. And you'll stimulate some endorphin growth as well which is really what the whole thing is about. Lastly the most important thing if you are serious BE READY. I still have 6 1/2 subs sitting right in front of me and 1 I keep in my coat pocket. No urge to take them cause I now what its going to do but its nice to know I have them. Which is how I know its time for me to quit again. I hope for the last time. If its you're time good luck hang in there you can do it a little will power and some suffering just remember not a big price to pay to be free and not rely on 1 drug instead of another. THANX DOC. LOL
The best things you can do to make it easier better and faster. Eat I know you don't want to but your body WILL NOT HEAL WITH OUT FOOD. If you don't believe me when you get better don't eat for 4 days and I'll guarantee you that you like sh$t. Drink lots of Gatorade or pedia lite you need the electrolytes. Get up no matter how hard I pushed my through work this whole week so far. Not easy not fun but it will help with your depression in many ways. You are not laying around thinking about how miserable you are. You get to interact with people which is key. You feel as though you have a purpose. And you'll stimulate some endorphin growth as well which is really what the whole thing is about. Lastly the most important thing if you are serious BE READY. I still have 6 1/2 subs sitting right in front of me and 1 I keep in my coat pocket. No urge to take them cause I now what its going to do but its nice to know I have them. Which is how I know its time for me to quit again. I hope for the last time. If its you're time good luck hang in there you can do it a little will power and some suffering just remember not a big price to pay to be free and not rely on 1 drug instead of another. THANX DOC. LOL
Been on sub's about three years. last year taking only one miligram (1/2 of 2mg pill)...even a little less at times. a few times over the last year I relapsed and took oxy's for a couple days..then got right back on suboxone. I notice at times when I take a smaller piece, or when I wait unusually long between doses, I get extremely agitated, depressed, and pissed off. Also really tired. Is this what I will expect to get even worse when I finally kick. I want off sooo bad...but don't want to go through so much uncomfortability. Someone said taking Neourotin can help. Maybe I should drink my way through it..which kind of stinks cuz I'm in AA. I want to do this soon!! all the way off. Any feedback?
My husband and I also WAS using vicodin and then moved on to Suboxin, my husband has up and left me and the kids and he was my provider of the suboxin, I had no choice to get off the suboxin and start doing for myself. I will be completely honest, I have been clean for 13 days now and am still going through pretty bad withdraws. I wasnt using but a quarter of suboxin once a day and couldnt tapper down but wasnt taking all that much in the first place. I do take motrin through out the day to help with the achenes and am having sleep and diarrhea but it wasnt as bad as I thought it was gonna be! The days are so long right now but Im sure its a mix between the divorce and suboxin but the key to feeling better in my opinion is to keep saying to yourself "I CAN AND WILL GET THROUGH THIS!" The kids and I are currently staying at my moms and I refuse to let her or anyone know that Im withdrawing, she probably thinks its me dealing with the divorce. If I can do this.......YOU can too! Chin up, its gonna take some time but there is times in the days where I feel better than I ever did before, so I know there is a end in sight!
About 3 year's ago I was introduced to oxy's by my husband..when he first started using and he'd ask if I wanted to try I say no...But some
where along the way I tried it..and that's all it took. The high was unbelievable. It seemed to make everything better for along time.
And than about a year into it we started losing control and money was gone. When the money ran out we started pawning stuff. It
got so bad I lost my car, his truck and so much more...but by the time we reached that point we were just using to not get sick and
be able to function. I NEVER knew that there was something out that, that could just grab hold of you and take your life the way that it
does. Of course we hide it from our families and did or best to stay away from our families when we were sick. At some point there was
no more hiding it...especially when our vehicles were being reposed by the bank. Still we lied to everyone cause we thought we could
control it. We thought we could go clean on our own..We made plan after plan to try and stop but nothing seemed to work...when we'd
reach day 3 we couldn't do it anymore. And we did it all over again. We do have children and I guess to be honest in the last year that
we were using it was only bc we had to take care of kid's and not withdrawal. We talked about one of us stopping and going thru the
Withdrawal's while the other continued to use to function and than the other one would go thru it. But there was no way in HELL either
one of us could watch the other use while withdrawing. Adventally our families got involved and the kids stayed with them..and we
enter into and out patient for 3 month's and did another cousoling program outside of the rehab place...we were done! we completed
the 3 month program and thing's seemed to be ok. During the program we were put on suboxone's and what a MAICIAL Drug. Once
Our prgram was over we were taking off suboxone's and oh my god the withdrawals were worse than on Oxy's. What the hell is that
about? You ge
t on suboxone's to stop using and to help with withdrawals and to get ur life back but it seem's like those 3 months all
we did was tempoaryly postpone the withdrawals. Of course guess what we used 3 months gone. But we knew that this had to stop
So since August of 2010 I have been back on the sub's. My dr. Is amazing and is going to slowy take me off them and hopfully won't
have to bad of withdrawls.and to be honest I am kind of afaird of coming off them cause I know while taking them I can't get high off
Oxy's I feel safe right now....I know I am always going to be an addicit always. Just this week I run short before my next dr. Appointment
and had to go 3 day's with out cause my dr took a month off for the hoilday's. And I am telling you there is NO way I can do this again.
The withdrawls this time were 100 times worse. I am taking 20mg (2 1/2) sub's per day. I never would of thought that a drug that's
suppost to help you get off drug's is worse than the drugs itself. I give it to everyone of you that go cold turkey. I wish I could do it and
and be strong. So for now I am going to continue to remain under my dr.s care and stay on the sub's and pray to god that when it time
to come off them that I get it right this time. God bless all of you and stay strong. I wish way back when I would of kept saying no.
God know's if I knew what I know now I would of said go get bent and walked. But I am in it now!
where along the way I tried it..and that's all it took. The high was unbelievable. It seemed to make everything better for along time.
And than about a year into it we started losing control and money was gone. When the money ran out we started pawning stuff. It
got so bad I lost my car, his truck and so much more...but by the time we reached that point we were just using to not get sick and
be able to function. I NEVER knew that there was something out that, that could just grab hold of you and take your life the way that it
does. Of course we hide it from our families and did or best to stay away from our families when we were sick. At some point there was
no more hiding it...especially when our vehicles were being reposed by the bank. Still we lied to everyone cause we thought we could
control it. We thought we could go clean on our own..We made plan after plan to try and stop but nothing seemed to work...when we'd
reach day 3 we couldn't do it anymore. And we did it all over again. We do have children and I guess to be honest in the last year that
we were using it was only bc we had to take care of kid's and not withdrawal. We talked about one of us stopping and going thru the
Withdrawal's while the other continued to use to function and than the other one would go thru it. But there was no way in HELL either
one of us could watch the other use while withdrawing. Adventally our families got involved and the kids stayed with them..and we
enter into and out patient for 3 month's and did another cousoling program outside of the rehab place...we were done! we completed
the 3 month program and thing's seemed to be ok. During the program we were put on suboxone's and what a MAICIAL Drug. Once
Our prgram was over we were taking off suboxone's and oh my god the withdrawals were worse than on Oxy's. What the hell is that
about? You ge
t on suboxone's to stop using and to help with withdrawals and to get ur life back but it seem's like those 3 months all
we did was tempoaryly postpone the withdrawals. Of course guess what we used 3 months gone. But we knew that this had to stop
So since August of 2010 I have been back on the sub's. My dr. Is amazing and is going to slowy take me off them and hopfully won't
have to bad of withdrawls.and to be honest I am kind of afaird of coming off them cause I know while taking them I can't get high off
Oxy's I feel safe right now....I know I am always going to be an addicit always. Just this week I run short before my next dr. Appointment
and had to go 3 day's with out cause my dr took a month off for the hoilday's. And I am telling you there is NO way I can do this again.
The withdrawls this time were 100 times worse. I am taking 20mg (2 1/2) sub's per day. I never would of thought that a drug that's
suppost to help you get off drug's is worse than the drugs itself. I give it to everyone of you that go cold turkey. I wish I could do it and
and be strong. So for now I am going to continue to remain under my dr.s care and stay on the sub's and pray to god that when it time
to come off them that I get it right this time. God bless all of you and stay strong. I wish way back when I would of kept saying no.
God know's if I knew what I know now I would of said go get bent and walked. But I am in it now!