today i am on day 6 and i was on two 8mg tabs a day and stoped cold turkey no taper no nothing just took my last pill and that was the end for me i cant sleep toss and turn all night shakey.. feel very weak but have no choice but to push through it for my son.. im up at 7 am freezeing depressed and just want to give up but you just gotta stay strong and tell ur self theres a life without drugs a better life for all of us.. i sure hope im feeling better soon.. i honestly havent taken a thing for 6days i mean nothing and no taper sucks.. but day6 is here y turn back now?? CANT! vitamin water is good i been drinking that all day everyday.. anyone got any questions feel free to ask.. and if anyone on here has just stoped cold turkey without anything maybe u could sharesome insights on what ill be going through.... Good look everyone stay positive as hard as it is your MIND IS STRONG enough to over come this sh*t!!!!! believe me if i can do this anyone can!!
I started to feel closer to normal after 3 weeks. In the weeks leading up, I wasn't able to sleep at all. I was lucky to get 3 hours after 2 weeks. What helped the sleep was getting a script for Trazadone from my doctor. Nothing makes you more crazy than staying up all night. The Trazadone really helped. I started off taking a full pill, then broke it into halves after a week until i didn't need it at all.
For your restless legs, which really sucks, there's a product that you can find from CVS that is called restless legs (not sure exactly the name). But worse than the legs (for me) was my arms. When I tried to sleep, my heart would race so fast, then my arms would tingle all night. I found that spooning with a pillow helped, but didn't cure it.
The most important thing you can do, and I can't stress this enough, is to workout. I know you feel tired and depressed so the last thing you feel like doing is working out, but that is by far what helped me the most. Try riding a bike or walking or better yet, hit the gym. It helps a ton with your depression but it also tires out your body and helps your arms and legs feel better. If you don't do anything else I say, workout. I promise, it helps.
Also, stay far away from caffeine until you can sleep a bit. After you can sleep a little, find a pre-workout powder for energy. I found that a brand called Jacked gave me the boost I needed.
If you can, find one or two people who you can talk to about your experiences...preferably somebody who can do favors for you. There will be days where the depression is so bad that you won't wanna do any chores or work at all. Having somebody you can trust to do favors for you is a big help. Tell them you will repay them in a couple months. Reading these message boards are very therapeutic as well.
The main thing is to stay occupied. Anything to keep your mind off of how badly you feel. Listening to music helped me greatly. Songs take on a totally different meaning. I enjoyed reading as well. I read Slash's book and I felt like I relates to him...just with the addiction part--it helped.
Good luck to ya. I hope I helped you some. Remember, if u go back to taking them, then you have to start this whole process all over again somewhere down the line. Don't do that. One day not taking them is that much closer to living a life that is free of dependence.
It's much better on the other side...I promise.
@jamielynn_30 keep up the hard work - it gets better. You might all appreciate two things.
1. "The Opiate Effect" is screening at University of Vermont tonight for free, there is more info at the Major Kratom site, the YouTube trailer, and a link to DL.
2. Our "Kick Subs" stickers came in and the RUN DMC / SUB POP references ring true. They are on our site as well.
Best to all.
Help what can i do... Is he killing himself shooting this sh*t up?
DAY 1
2MGS SUBS, For 2months....
Well I was on 2mgs for the last 2 months and YES I am going through it right now. I feel like there is a fist in my throat when i swallow which is the worst. Cigarettes taste like sh*t and i'm always uncomfortable. I am cold when i'm hot and i'm freezing when i'm cold. I have yawned about 1,000x's today. Here is why I am so worried. I'm only on day one. I feel like I could sleep for a thousand years one minute then restless and fidgeting the next.
I was on subs for 2years and then when i started my taper i got down to .25 and relapsed hard. I went hard and then went right back to subs to bail me out for 8months about 4 months ago i went to 4mgs. Then 2months ago i went to 2mg and then i just ... stopped. I stopped going to the clinic that was charging me an arm and a leg and making me wait there like an ass for an hour then speaking to a therapist for another hour... I know there's other clinics and doctors but i just nope i'm done with this!!!!!
Well now i'm paying the price. I can tell you if you are reading this and you want to know the truth hang on to your subs before w/drawling this is awful. I will say it is not as gut wrenching intense as a full blown heroin w/drawl but it's bad enough to bring back all of those same feelings and moods that come with it.
BTW.... your cravings come back with a vengeance. Your mind says " well if i take a real opiate it will knock off the the sub fake opiate thing and when the high wears off you won't have to go through any w/drawls!!! so you can get high just once b/c it will be for ... SCIENCE!! Its ridiculous.
they took away the information ! how do I find the info you are speaking about...ready to give it a go and could really use this info.. Are you still there?
He is probably referring to ground Kratom leaves. My guess is that 80% of our customers at Major Kratom, are using it to beat their withdrawal symptoms. Most likely by transitioning to Kratom and until the urge to use opiates is gone, then ultimately getting off Kratom if they desire. W/D's are about 3 days after long term use, so nothing like the 2 weeks of hell that people speak of with Subs.