stop NOW! or start a taper....i would not continue if i were you....stop while you are ahead....take some advice from previous posts to help with symptoms.....cham. tea, vit. b, etc..... cuz if it seems bad, or scary now, it only gets worse the longer you stay on
check online for a taper chart from someone who has done it.......hope it works for ya
I was just browsing the internet for some info and ran across this page here... I've spent more than half of my 36 years addicted to drugs (in one form or another), it started with me "experimenting" with things like alcohol and weed with my High School friends - then I found LSD, Mushrooms, Cocaine, Nitrous Oxide, etc etc....
by the time I was 16 I started dabbling with Percocet and Vicodin which quickly turned to Morphine, Oxycontin, and Dilaudid...
by the time I was 17 I tried Heroin for the first time. Once I started shooting it, that became my purpose in life - the needle and the drug. Oh and since I already had an affinity to using Cocaine, let's not forget, I had to make sure I had a Speedball to wake up to.
Long story short here; I am now 17 months sober. Haven't touched a drop of alcohol, haven't smoked one joint, took anything that's not prescribed by a medical doctor. I tried Methadone for a few years back around 2002-2004 - then I came home one night in 2004 and found my mother dead from an overdose... Apparently she too had just gotten her Dr to prescribe Methadone for pain because she had been abusing her Morphine pills, plus she apparently bought a bunch of Xanax from someone on the street... and she was drinking alcohol when she took all those pills... I guess she just stopped breathing, but by the time I got home that night, she was already gone. I tried to give her CPR and it was just too late....
Needless to say, the emotional toll I endured as a result of that event led me to a dark and depressed place in my life and I quickly began using daily again, still going to the Methadone clinic, but couldn't stop using no matter how badly I thought I wanted to. I ended up in jail for shoplifting - I was at 170mg a day at the time and I was also abusing Benzos...
Want to talk about Withdrawal?? lol - that was by far the sickest I have ever been from w/d symptoms in my life. I really thought I was going to die in that jail cell.
Fast Forward to today... I have been sober just about 17 months (3/15/12) is my sobriety date. I had been on and off Suboxone over the years as well in between jail time and failed rehabs from 2004 up until the last time I entered treatment which was March 2012.... Now the DRs put me back on the Suboxone because of my long history of Opiate addiction, they wanted me to go on a long-term Suboxone Maintenance regimen.. I am currently up to 20mg / day down from 32mg when I first got back on it...
I've had to kick Subs many times and while it isn't pleasant, it can be done. I am writing this because I just recently ran out and can't get my refill for 3 more days. Don't know how I ran out 5 days early (I think I'll have to have a talk with my roommate.. I think he's been hitting my script... bastard!) anyway, today is day 2 without any and I am just starting to get the yawns, and the stomach cramps. Slept fine last night, but something tells me tonight is going to be a b***h.... Anyway, for those of you who can't see the light at the end of the tunnel... it does get easier. In my opinion, suboxone w/d is a lot milder than coming off 170 mg of Methadone Cold-Turkey in a jail cell!
And for those of you who question my "Sobriety" based on the fact that I am still on Suboxone... Let me tell you something... I was a f*****g animal out there on the streets.. shooting so many drugs in my veins and just wanting to die every day. I am able to maintain an apartment today. I have a job. I have a relationship with my daughter and my family has trust in me again.... so for the purists who say "Well you're on Suboxone, you're not really sober"
I say this... I am prescribed a medication for a chronic, progressive disease... if I had Diabetes you wouldn't tell me not to take my Insulin, right?
Now, do I plan on staying on this c**p forever? No! I am just learning how to take care of myself all over again...
It's just a One Day at a Time process! Hang in there everyone...
Hi Phunkadelic77 that was a very good post you typed. I think that's terrible that you were in a jail cell going Cold Turkey off 170mg Methodone a day. That's just downright cruel that no one was there to help you out. I'm on Suboxone too. Is there any way that you could put your Suboxone under lock and key so your roommate can't get to them? Let the selfish bastard go get his own.
And I totally agree with your comment about If a person had Diabetes you wouldn't tell them not to take their Insulin right? That's exactly what my Doctor told me. I hope you can get to the Doctor very soon. By day 3, it starts to get really yucky. That's my experience anyway.
And you are my very first post as I only Registered a few hours ago. I've been sitting here for hours reading so many other people's posts. I always go to the "Last Page" when reading, because so many of the Posts I'm reading say "Over a year ago" and I'm thinking I want to know the person I'm speaking to is going to hopefully read my reply to them lol.
well what is it then please yell me so i can get it been on suboxone 8mg for 6months then to 4 mg for 3months its now august on aud 2nd went from 4mg to 3mg then on the 8th went down to 2 and a half todays the 10th before i take my suboxone a few hours b4 im feeling wd its hell im scaired i could go back up but want off of all drugs so my aunt who deals with homeopathy gave me nux vomica im scaired to try it but shes assured me it will help withthe headaches,stomach ache and nasea or vomitting but i have not had much of that except the stomache and leg cramps but at night im sleeping good i use melationin 8mg and 1mg of k-pin but if you have this great thing please let us know thanks
amen , and that is the simple truth.
I have a very similar story but without the jail detox. The meds are there to help you. You will eventually be ready to come off the subs as I have , but until then hang in there who cares what anyone else thinks.
i too was on suboxone because i was a severe heroin addict for 5 years and a pill addict for 10 years before that....dont be scared,its really not that bad,nothing like being dope sick...the only thing i had was a little bit of chills and the runs! i promise you its not bad at all,your mind is your worst enemy and you really can trick yourself into thinking you are sick...just be strong and you will be great i promise!!!
i've was on them for 5-6 years, then i said im done. First week not 1 minute of sleep, after that about 50 percent after a month everything was good, and thats when the mind games come in where you think about it every second, but i was good for 3 months, then i just took one piece and here it is another 6 months and im trying to quit again on my 4th day still awake want to destroy everything and watched 50 movies, the only thing that works for me is tremadal, adderall, and xanax..
tremodal helps with the creepy crawlering feelings and the legs and arms shaking and the runny nose and eyes
adderall helps with everything besides sleep and the runs
and xanax helps with the mind games and sleep
just one thing is the runs havent figured that one out yet and ive tried everything??
i no its hard for some to get your hands on all three of these things, but i've quit everything known to man and this was the hardest, so good luck and try to get these 3 things.
Its all in your head try to keep yourself entertained and man up that helps me, believe me i'd rather quit at home then in a jail cell where u pace 1000's of times all night and day with nothing to do..
I also was on pain meds .I had a back fusion also a bad neck took them for to long.I was on sub for three weeks 3a day for 5 days 2a day for 5 days 1 a day for 5 day done.I feel normal The second day being of I felt a little weird but I am confedent I will be fine .I feel great about my self as I hate not being incontrol of my life ,I Don use any kinda drugs or use booze.I think its what you use and how you use it I am me again after one month it was a breez,yes there are a few side efrfects but nothing like getting off pain killers.I am me again
Cut down As little as possible. Subs stay in your systemup to 72 hours. Then the withdrawals kick in. Suggestion is stay as active as possible. Laying in bed is the worse and get out of town. You at some point will hit the breaking point ango hit up your connects. That's one option. Another is when withdrawAl's kick in take a quarter of a blue once a day for four days. It will prevent the feeling of nearing death and turning back to the subway diet. Might not be the answer you want but it's the truth.
I am five days clean from 8mg a day for four months. I feel great through out the day. I just want to send encouraging words to everyone that reads this. The first to do is not to use. I thought about using benzos to help me sleep at night and deal with my emotions when they peak at night. I am a Registered nurse and that would jeopardize my carer and my degree. The night time sleep aids that contain antihistamines are not helpful for me because they naturally give me RLS. Keep with and if meetings work go to them! That's what I am doing. Trying not to let my old way of thinking get in the way. Good luck guys. It's not that bad. Tolerable for sure.
I've been on subs for 8 months. 8mgs/day. I'm an opiate addict due to breaking my neck in an accident. No excuse, I got myself hooked by over taking the meds the doc gave me. He had me on morphine/fentynl/percs, you name it. So it came time to get off those and my doc cut me off. That was the worst week of my life. In and out of the E.R. Drug seeking. Finally I admitted myself into detox. That's when i started suboxone. It did save my life at the time. But now Im trying to get off of it and its actually harder than coming off of the hard opiates. The worst symptoms are insomnia, anxiety, and feeling like i could rip the skin off of my legs. Im day three into wd and they say it gets better in 72 hours but thats BS. My wd usally last 2-3 weeks. Suboxone is a great drug in many ways, but PT's NEED to have safer options when its time to come off of it. I know its possible for us to get off of these drugs, but there needs to be a system created by researchers and docs to help us. Thanks for letting me share. Good luck. Prayer helps.
I have been on suboxone for 6 months I want to get off I take 2 mg a day so i had the bright idea of getting prescribed to adderal to and convinced my doc it wouldhelp when im on adderal I take less of the subs but when I dont take the adderL im a mess, I dont want to take anything and im on40 mg of Prozac my doc says if these meds keep meoff opiates then stick withwat works but I dontwant to rely on a pill to function everyday anyone have any advice