You must be busy with the move. At least it isn't that far. I hope it goes as smooth at can. My thoughts and best wishes are with you and your family. I saw Dr. today. The appt. was as long as it took to write the sub script. Crazy they don't take your BP or anything just a drug test. $$$$$$$ Though I have not felt wonderful I need this for now. I made no complaints so this is the baseline dose and we will go down from here over months...........Least I'm okay now. Oh moving sucks. I'm good at it I have moved alot.
I've also been reading through this and other posts in various forums. I'm going to be in withdrawals soon, hopefully not until the weekend. I've been through w/d's so many times, I can't even begin to count. It happens every month, and every month I get my refill anyway. I'd like to share what's helped me. I'm not a doctor, this is personal experience. Kratom and loperamide have been hands-down the best, most helpful aids for withdrawals. Kratom is becoming a little harder to get in certain states, mine being one of them. Fortunately I live close to 2 more "liberal" states. It can be tough to find the right dose, but it definitely helps once you do. When I take at least 30mg of lope it helps a great deal also. My habit had me taking 120mg of oxy/day...for the better part of a decade, so 30mg of lope is going to be too much for some, too little for others. I could probably take more lope, but you have to taper that down too or it's just another habit/addiction. So I take enough to get me to work. Use miralax or some laxative with the lope to keep you as regular as possible. If you're able, working out and taking hot showers/baths helps too. Beginning the workout is tough, but it really feels good once you get going and especially the sense of accomplishment when you finish. For me, it's the PAWS that drags on and always seems the worst on the day before and day of my pill refill. I'd have a better chance if I could miss that refill for one month, seeing as I've gone 3 weeks sober a couple of times in the past few months...so an extra month would really be nice. It ultimately comes down to how bad I want it and getting all the support I can. I've gone to NA meetings, they're nice if you can get up and go. You don't have to talk, you can just listen. It's like this forum being spoken in real-time...it helps to hear that you're not alone. Best of luck to everyone dealing with this struggle. People have done it and each and every one of us can too...I truly believe this.
My main complaints in withdrawals is lack of motivation to do work and the chills. Winter is coming quick, I wish the weather was warm, w/ds make the cold weather almost painful.
Yes I've got my w/d procedure down. Had trouble getting the kratom lately. I can find it over-priced in smoke shops in Chicago. I live in Indiana and it got grouped in with the bath salt law somehow...makes no sense...so I have to get it sent to my friends in either Illinois or Michigan. The lope helps for a longer amount of time, I just don't like the bloating...I'll try a better laxative like miralax this weekend. I'll be out of oxy by tomorrow as planned. It's still no walk in the park with these two tools. The mental part is rough, just living without a buzz. I'm getting a good workout routine established finally, that helps. I was on suboxone for about 2 years. I didn't use it properly b/c I would still take pills. Still, I could get by with just breaking off a little chip from an 8mg. I took a week off work to quit the subs, but relapsed after 6 days with a half hour max of sleep. I took my last "chip" on Friday morning and the withdrawals didn't even kick in until Sunday evening. I had restless legs bad too. I didn't know about kratom or loperamide at that time tho. I'm sure I could've made it work... Weaning has never worked for me. It just seems like it stretches out the discomfort, so I eventually give in. I guess it's up to when I'm ready to stop, but I feel like I've been ready for years now. The PAWS really wears me down.
Oh the cycle you are caught I was stuck in for a very long time and it is the worst place to be. Never really high suffering 3 weeks for a week of discomfort just to do it all again and knowing what you are doing....Oh it's horrible. Please come on here and share how you are doing even if you plan on getting the RX. I'm not here to judge you, and everyone on this board knows the horror involved in what you are dealing with. I hope this weekend goes well. Even with the tools it def sucks!!!!!! I went zero to subs do to PAWS. You are right about the chip of an 8 mg really helping. I just take a chip in morning and a chip at night. Is it oxy that you are prescribed to? Well I'll be here for you month after month if you want to try and help you tru the wd's. How old are you Chip?
It's a pretty foolish cycle to be on. I should at least get a couple months clean and see how it goes. It's just so damn exhausting. The lope and kratom help me get almost 7 hours of sleep, but it's a light sleep and some nights I only get a couple hours. I can say that I don't plan on getting the script, but I can't honestly say until that day comes. I'll have to be doing pretty well that day to be strong. I get about 90- 15mg oxy and 10- 60mg of the OPs. I'm 33. You? Thanks for the support! I've just been a guest but I'll go ahead and register if ppl are cool and supportive here.
Hi Folks,
Hi Purrpill, Glad you are feeling so much better!
Moving day is here, loading up today, finishing tomorrow and heading out...ugg, have been sick the whole week, nothing worse than having to do manual labor while you are sick! Hopefully will arrive at final destination Sunday afternoon.
Welcome to the thread Crisp, we wish you all the best, reach out and someone on here will reply, we have all been through this hell and can help out, even if it is just kind words and advice :)
Crisp hope you are doing good today.
I feel like I've hijacked this thread. I'll start my own thread either later when I'm off work or tomorrow when the withdrawals start.
I think that if my connection was cut off I'd be able to do a lot better. I do well after the initial wds lessen, but then the anxiety and restlessness gets worse as the refill date gets near. Just being honest with myself, I'd have a better chance of making the decision to not get the refill if I had more clean time than 20 days.
For fun I like sports, watching them mainly. I'll play some when it's nice out. Love to play video games when I have the time. I've been exercising a lot more and trying to eat better. I'll have to find some more constructive activities if I'm going to be sober. I can sit around all day on the pills and be fine, but I can't do that sober. I'm not much of a partier these days. I'm told that I need to find a girlfriend, but I know that this isn't the best time to be starting a relationship. Who wants to date someone that's fresh in withdrawals? lol I'll be moody and not wanting to do much.
Georgia, have you been sick like a cold/flu-sick or dope-sick? I helped a friend move on day 2 of withdrawals over the summer, but it actually felt good to get up and move/exercise so I looked at it from a positive view-point. I certainly didn't feel up to it that morning, but once we got going I felt better than I would've if I'd just laid around feeling sorry for myself.