GregDC----FINALLY! I thought I was the only person that didn't blame the docs or the pills and then you posted! Great read my friend. Quite frankly there are millions of people who take opiates everyday, and they take them as prescribed. Yes they're "addicted" to them and yes, if they suddenly stop, they will have to endure withdrawals. The trade off is pain management. I originally started taking them for pain management but then I just liked the buzz. I got hooked because "one more won't hurt." I quit because "one more does hurt." Until you're willing to accept responsibility for your own actions, it will be hard to recover. It's simply too easy to blame someone else.
I had rotator cuff surgery which was the most painful thing I have ever been through. I was prescribed Lortab 7.5 2 months prior to surgery and was told to take two every 4 hours because the pain was going to be immense after surgery. And it was! 3 months and 120+ or more pills later I was completely addicted. The withdrawal was not severe for me where I was completely out of commission but I was very uncomfortable, sweats, chills, nervous stomach, diarrea, yawns and eye watering constantly. These are a few things that helped me get through. Take a Tramadol or two when symptoms where unbearable. Take a xanax for the nervous stomach and exercise. Exercise was the most helpful. 30 mins on treadmill and 20-30 mins of any kind of weights or machines alleviated all the symptoms and made me feel good for about 4 hrs. Caffiene or herbal energy drinks helped a little. And some kind of sleep aid for night. I took Unisom natural nights. Good luck to all!
I'm 53 and started opiates at 14 on and off until at 26 I got hooked snorting "opium"...found out it was heroin. I stopped at least a hundred times. At one point, I was prescribed 7 of the 80's in the a.m. and 7 at night with 2 norcos every 4 hours for break through pain. Just a little tolerance built up throughout the years. Please, if you are even thinking of having any life ever...stop now. NOW!!!! Your life is over as you have known it and will never be what you ever wanted if you don't just get through it. I was at least 17 days the first time I quit before I got my first hour of sleep, but I was in rehab, so I made it a whole 36 days clean. That was 20 years ago. You can try valarian root and L-tryptophane will help to calm you also if you can get clonidine not clonipin, it will really help; but nothing will take it away for free. I also went to jail for 6 months on 80 mil. of methadone with no detox. Happy days that was. Also several years ago. I wish I could say I made it out, but I can't and never will, but all of you younger people that got stuck in the Oxy trap, you still have a chance. Please stop now, cause believe me it only gets progressively worse. Good luck and God bless all of you.
The best way to come off them is to cut your dose in half day by day. Until you only need one when feeling the withdrawl. then the next time you feel the symptoms only take half a pill. and so on. when you completely stop taking them the sympyoms will be minor .then drink a beer and smoke some freakin pot.
This is actually not a bad taper plan for opioids with short half lifes like hydrocodone. From experience I'd say go cold turkey once you get down to 30 mg per day. You are going to feel some discomfort,but most of the withdrawals will be psychological and not physical. I also suggest taking a multi- vitamin and immodium to help prevent the runs. Once again,everyone is unique,but a vast majority of people start feeling much better at the 72 hr. mark.
Personally, I started feeling much better around the 48 hr mark. I still had a lack of energy,but that's when moments of clarity began to appear. The worst for me physically was 12- 40 hours after my last dose. At the 48 hr mark, the only physical symptoms i had left were a slight runny nose and the occasional sneeze. Those were gone by day 4 ( 72+ hrs.)
Personally, I started feeling much better around the 48 hr mark. I still had a lack of energy,but that's when moments of clarity began to appear. The worst for me physically was 12- 40 hours after my last dose. At the 48 hr mark, the only physical symptoms i had left were a slight runny nose and the occasional sneeze. Those were gone by day 4 ( 72+ hrs.)
Here is the magic mix my friends, I have done the withdrawal song and dance now for about 3 years, with far too many weeks of my
life spent suffering when I did not have access to my opium, which I was able to buy in a powdered form in LA and snort. I will tell you this, all the freaking over the counter recommendations are BS, weather its poppy tea or valerian root or benadryl and immodium. Really barely takes the edge off. The worst part is the restlessness, sleeplessness, chills, goosebumps and sweats, and the daily fatigue and diarriah. Here is the miracle mix! There is an easy way to do this where you will NOT SUFFER at all. I'm on day 5 clean and it's been a freaking picnic compared to every other detox I've done. Clonidine .1mg take one to two every 6 hours, no chills no sweats no restlessness, no diariah!! Adderall 20mg XR take one with food in the am, I set my alarm and take it an hour before I wake up and go back to sleep so it kicks in when I wake up and then another one at lunch, no fatigue. 2 .5 Xanax at night to sleep and a little puff of herb for a mood lift. I also took some
5-htp which has B vitamins and vitamin C and is a precursor to seratonin. I haven't missed any work. I've slept great and bc the clonidine also makes your mouth dry I've been wanting to drink tons of water, which is also a great thing. Don't suffer. Go talk to your DR. Add is a super east diagnosis to fake and clonidine and xanax and very commonly perscribed to people on adderrall. Feel better and get clean. You can do it. It's not so bad if you have the right drugs to balance you out. Good luck!
life spent suffering when I did not have access to my opium, which I was able to buy in a powdered form in LA and snort. I will tell you this, all the freaking over the counter recommendations are BS, weather its poppy tea or valerian root or benadryl and immodium. Really barely takes the edge off. The worst part is the restlessness, sleeplessness, chills, goosebumps and sweats, and the daily fatigue and diarriah. Here is the miracle mix! There is an easy way to do this where you will NOT SUFFER at all. I'm on day 5 clean and it's been a freaking picnic compared to every other detox I've done. Clonidine .1mg take one to two every 6 hours, no chills no sweats no restlessness, no diariah!! Adderall 20mg XR take one with food in the am, I set my alarm and take it an hour before I wake up and go back to sleep so it kicks in when I wake up and then another one at lunch, no fatigue. 2 .5 Xanax at night to sleep and a little puff of herb for a mood lift. I also took some
5-htp which has B vitamins and vitamin C and is a precursor to seratonin. I haven't missed any work. I've slept great and bc the clonidine also makes your mouth dry I've been wanting to drink tons of water, which is also a great thing. Don't suffer. Go talk to your DR. Add is a super east diagnosis to fake and clonidine and xanax and very commonly perscribed to people on adderrall. Feel better and get clean. You can do it. It's not so bad if you have the right drugs to balance you out. Good luck!
If you take the hydrocodone you won't have withdrawals, it's still an opiate
Been dealing with trying to kick a two year Oxy and Hydro habit. I have come off of hydro by tapering down and this proves easy enough. Not with the Oxy, though this is foreign oxy, I believe it is a morphine substance, not artificial like American Oxy.
Well, I am tapering the two of them right now, last dose was 1 20MG oxy + 1 10/500 hydro. My peak use was maybe 50MG oxy and 20 MG hydro at one time! Very nice high, BUT, it ain't worth it I can tell you. Even this one dose a day method is a killer to try and stop.
The worst of all is, a one dose in the afternoon leaves you in withdrawal by the time you get up in the morning.
Even down to a 20MG oxy and a 10 MG oxy, I am in terrible withdrawals until I redose in the afternoon.
Should I stick with this slow painful tapering method or cold turkey from this fairly low level?
I am just amazed by the pain and depression I am in from this slow method. I even have those horrible thoughts that just pop into your mind form nowhere and recall the worst events of my life.
Nothing helps the symptoms that I have tried. The OTC pain relievers don't touch the body aches, at least the sweating is minimal in a taper method. I say the worst feelings are the depression, which is unbelievable and the feeling you want to crawl out of your skin with the pain and discomfort.
I really feel for hardcore users who I read on here have taken doses far, far above anything I ever took, and I was always a once a day user.
Any tips or support welcome. I had to relapse yesterday for a day because my daughter and new baby came to stay with me, no way I could do a full day and two nights in a state of desperate withdrawal. No I feel really lousy having lost my rung on the downward ladder at 20MG oxy 10 MG hydro. Needed 50oxy to function yesterday, today I feel like death would be welcome.
No matter how good a high this stuff gives, it is living death once it has got you.
Well, I am tapering the two of them right now, last dose was 1 20MG oxy + 1 10/500 hydro. My peak use was maybe 50MG oxy and 20 MG hydro at one time! Very nice high, BUT, it ain't worth it I can tell you. Even this one dose a day method is a killer to try and stop.
The worst of all is, a one dose in the afternoon leaves you in withdrawal by the time you get up in the morning.
Even down to a 20MG oxy and a 10 MG oxy, I am in terrible withdrawals until I redose in the afternoon.
Should I stick with this slow painful tapering method or cold turkey from this fairly low level?
I am just amazed by the pain and depression I am in from this slow method. I even have those horrible thoughts that just pop into your mind form nowhere and recall the worst events of my life.
Nothing helps the symptoms that I have tried. The OTC pain relievers don't touch the body aches, at least the sweating is minimal in a taper method. I say the worst feelings are the depression, which is unbelievable and the feeling you want to crawl out of your skin with the pain and discomfort.
I really feel for hardcore users who I read on here have taken doses far, far above anything I ever took, and I was always a once a day user.
Any tips or support welcome. I had to relapse yesterday for a day because my daughter and new baby came to stay with me, no way I could do a full day and two nights in a state of desperate withdrawal. No I feel really lousy having lost my rung on the downward ladder at 20MG oxy 10 MG hydro. Needed 50oxy to function yesterday, today I feel like death would be welcome.
No matter how good a high this stuff gives, it is living death once it has got you.
For all of you out there who are addicted to opiates,
I know how painful withdrawals become. This is a terrible drug. I have seen it completely ruin lives and kill my friends and loved ones.
One of the only ways I could kick the habit was by completely eradicating any trace of this drug from my life. I had to cut ties in friendships in order to make my life a better place.
I know its near impossible to imagine yourself without this drug while you are addicted but I can assure you, I would rather be in any other pain in the world other than an opiate withdrawal.
The withdrawals won't last forever. There are many methods you can try to help ease the pain of body aches, irregular body temperatures, vomiting, or diarrhea. If you are addicted to opiates you will experience every one of these symptoms.
Be strong and keep your mind set on the goal ahead without looking back. Never look back! You will not die from opiate withdrawals. The likelihood of you dying if you chose to remain on the drug isn't worth it.
If anyone knows you are addicted I'm sure these words are nothing new to you. Listen to them. Each and every one of you out there are of equal significance; whether you be man or woman, you each hold just as much value in life as any king, dictator, president, businessman, or anyone for that matter. Make the decision to quit. Create valuable relationships with family and friends that won't allow you to fall back into the black pit of opiate addiction. I've tried to save my friends before and by doing so, I fell back to addiction.
Make up your mind to completely eradicate this horrible toxin from your body. Treat the pills just like you would police if you had them in your pocket. Run away!
I know how painful withdrawals become. This is a terrible drug. I have seen it completely ruin lives and kill my friends and loved ones.
One of the only ways I could kick the habit was by completely eradicating any trace of this drug from my life. I had to cut ties in friendships in order to make my life a better place.
I know its near impossible to imagine yourself without this drug while you are addicted but I can assure you, I would rather be in any other pain in the world other than an opiate withdrawal.
The withdrawals won't last forever. There are many methods you can try to help ease the pain of body aches, irregular body temperatures, vomiting, or diarrhea. If you are addicted to opiates you will experience every one of these symptoms.
Be strong and keep your mind set on the goal ahead without looking back. Never look back! You will not die from opiate withdrawals. The likelihood of you dying if you chose to remain on the drug isn't worth it.
If anyone knows you are addicted I'm sure these words are nothing new to you. Listen to them. Each and every one of you out there are of equal significance; whether you be man or woman, you each hold just as much value in life as any king, dictator, president, businessman, or anyone for that matter. Make the decision to quit. Create valuable relationships with family and friends that won't allow you to fall back into the black pit of opiate addiction. I've tried to save my friends before and by doing so, I fell back to addiction.
Make up your mind to completely eradicate this horrible toxin from your body. Treat the pills just like you would police if you had them in your pocket. Run away!
There is no answer to help ease your pain of withdrawal other than the OTC drugs named on here, hot showers, exorcise, and healthy eating habits. Its tough to go through and relapse will put you almost exactly back to square one with this drug. You have to eradicate it from your life. Stay the heck away from it!
Melatonin is a herbal supplement that I have used to help me to deal with the insomnia that comes with withdrawls. I have been battling a morphine addiction for 7 years and this supplement has always seemed to help.
I have been off for only four days, my doc prescribed me Clonidine. No it is not an opiate base, but it has taken away the anxiety, chills, depression. i am feeling overly agressive. i know that opiates, for a male over time drop our testosterone levels and sex drive, i saw the post about quickly achieving an orgasm and that is no joke. like i said i am feeling overly agressive, finding physical activities, that i enjoyed two years ago before my addiction, very comforting. but the agression is hard to deal with. i am 33 and i feel full of the same damn hormones i did at 18. i am seeing clearly once again, not numb to my surroundings. for those of you in my situation i hope the best for you. i am ready, i hope you are too. i miss my friend that kept me so numb and blind to my surroundings. but i realize i have to be me once again and not let this be the best of me. i know i can do it, i am ready. today is the best day i have had in a very long time.
Hey I saw all your posts on how u detoxed. if I have been on lorcets for 8 months taking 12 aday, how long do u think my detox will be? I'm on day one and already. have RLS.
if you stay cold turkey,you will start feeling a lot better around the 72 hour mark. The withdrawals will be intense,but never give up this clean time you have in. You should go and get some immodium or kaeopectake to stop the runs now. If you do, never exceed the reccomended dosage though. I did once and stayed clogged up for 2 days. That was worse than having the runs.
thanks so much! me and my husband had some friends come over and had I known they were bringing pills.I.wouldn't have invited them! I relapsed and I'm so disappointed in myself! so I'm back on day one! but I only took 5 yesterday as opposed to the 12 or more I usually take! I refuse to take anymore! I gotta get clean! I have kids and its not fair to them!