marijuana smoking and liver damage?

Hello my friend ..



for a beginning , ive been smoking weed for about 5-6 years now ..

and i have done my homework on some things concerning weed (i like to "know" what im doing)

i agree that its harmful due to , you know , "smoking" it ... i mean there is no place for smoke in our lungs ...

i also could imagine that it might be helpful for several things .. and i say "imagine" cause im not some kind of doctor , having done any

real researches ....



but my friend , listen up ...

almost in every country (almost .. i say it again) alcohol is allowed ...

now , where does alcohol come from ? ...

right , most people get it straight from any market ...

that means you actually "BUY" it ...

that again means you pay for it , and your money goes straight to the producer of the alcohol you just bought ....



now imagine any trademark (alcohol again) , lets say Carlsberg ...

guess everyone knows that beer ... how many millions of dollars do you think

they make ? i dunno too , but i can imagine pretty well ...

from these millions of dollars , some people working there , gain their living ...



now after statements ...



so we got a , TRILLION dollars world-wide trade of alcohol ..

imagine now weed would come legal ...

get it ? .... no? ....

kay , i would suggest that many people who use alcohol

would strictly change from alkohol to weed (knowing they wont die from it) ...

id say bout 40-60% of ppl who ever smoked weed , but drink alkohol due to illegal weed , will like "only" smoke weed then...



imagine what would happen to all those alcohol companies ...

they'd have a drop on sales about 70% ...

disaster ! employees would be fired , livings would be destroyed ...



now to your government statement ...

i ask you , from what do governments live ?

right .. from us ... from our taxes ...

and also the taxes from that beer companies ..

governments would straight loose money they really can use ...



and yes my firend there IS a reason governments have all these sites on the web.

as an effect , preventing from the little crisis alcohol would have (supposin weed would be legal from 1 day to the other)

governemnts go against marijuana ...



not to forget , there is a little foundation called "Drug Free America" ...

since you trust your governments so much , go find something about that company ...

try to find who actually Donates money to this company wich goes agains pot ...

youll be surprized ....







to finish ...

smoking pot i would say isnt good NOR bad for you ...

depends on how you use it (frequency , amount) ...



and ancient greek once said (i think you knw him :P ) "pan Metron Ariston" wich means

measurment in everything is best ... anything you do/take too much will harm you ...

even too much food will kill you or harm you ...

so it pretty much depends on ourelves what will happen when we smoke...

i dont think ill get cancer for a spliff every couple of days ...

but i definetely will if i smoke like an ounce a day ...



Legalize Regulate Educate Medicate .....

Actually again if you do any research you will come to realize that smoking marijuana also has never even been contributed to lung cancer in any cases you guys should watch a documentary called the union might teach you some useful info before you go assuming things you have no idea or proof about.

Well, in all the studies that have been done, Liver damage has never been seen due to the chemicals of marijuana being Cannaboids, these substances are present in the body already, so really, I don't think it could happen.

Although it seems that people who have had hepatitis, it can increase liver fibrosis.

Also, another possibility, is that the marijuana might be grown with chemicals not suited for plants that humans consume, and could cause liver damage. Food that you might be eating could also be the reason for liver damage. If you eat a lot of processed cheap meats like ham, sausage, or any other red-colour meat, or even drinking a lot of dark sodas like Coke will damage your liver.

Well, my point is that many other factors can contribute to liver damage, and you might want to talk to your doctor about it, it's the best you can do if you're concerned with your health, don't worry. I don't think he will denounce you or anything, he's not a cop, he's just your doctor and he should know about it.


(I love how people started a debate over marijuana, living the the main point of the topic aside.)

the main reason no deaths were previously attributed to cannabis is most likely because they didn't use it like we do today. the only people who smoked cannabis was sadhus in India for religious reasons. which is actually how rastas picked up smoking it. hindus were brought to jamaica on slave ships and just like african natives they retreated to the hills becoming what people call mountain men. making reggae aka mountain man music descending from african tribal music. rastas will also give praise to shiva tho when pronounced sounds alot like sheba. china is where cannabis' medicinal benefits were discovered and harnessed. and even tho it is where the earliest records of cannabis are not many of the chinese smoked. but believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense...

My friends wife has smoked marijuana for more than 20 years and within the last three years she has been having anxiety attacks, screaming at him and becoming very angry for no reason ,vomiting in the mornings and not getting out of the heat on hot days when she should.She is also a type 2 diabetic.I've tried to talk to him because he claims he doesn't understand why she is that way. She refuses to seek medical help. Would marijuana be doing this to her?

My son is only 19 and has been a pot smoker. He is having problems with his enzyme levels being elevated in his liver and hes having numerous other health issues including vomiting, severe diarehea, ithcy skin, and other symptoms. I feel strongly that it is a direct result of smkoing pot. He is stiill undergoing testing to diagnois the problem.

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addict making excuses. It's a simple basic fact that pot is just as bad if not worse than smoking, which is one of the leading contributors to terminal illnesses. Pot is used for cancer and other *terminal* patients, but only to curb pain not *cure* anyone. To get a pot dispensary prescription you do not go to your normal doctor, you go to a sketch ball doctor who doesn't even examine you.

Bottom line is it's a free country and anyone should be able to smoke out, but no one should be saying anything other than by doing so you are increasing your chances of terminal illness and providing zero health benefits to you or anyone. Just like alcohol, cigarettes, chew, etc.

Common sense.

I would just like to throw in on this with a few "facts". If you burn something, that either puts off black smoke( which pot does not, but cigarette and cigars do put off black smoke) or leaves a black ash you are flirting with only partially reacted carbon atoms. If you are using a flame source that can burn the pot hot enough and with enough oxygen you can totally eliminate the carcinogens in the marijuana and feel confident that you will not have any issues in your life with marijuana caused cancer. This is because carbon ions are the leading cause of oxidization in anything that burns. Next, marijuana has Been proven to cause a few medical issues that are very interesting. One is something cause fatty tumors or lipid tumors. These have been seen in clinical studies done on chronic smokers that have deep pockets of fat on their bodies and are usually not see or noticed until the patient has lost some weight. These are tumors that are in the fat cells made of fat cells. If you research the lipid tumors it has been noted that most doctors do not believe that these types of tumors have ever caused or turned into malignant tumors.
I am with most of the marijuana community with the idea that if you smoke through a bong, bubbled or vaporizer you are negating the negative tar and partially reacted carcinogens that come from partially reacted carbon ions.
Another strange occurrence that might explain most peoples problems with marijuana is the idea of good sleep. If you are a pot smoker you probably don't want anyone to know you smoke, so u are a midnight tokker. This is a serious problem, if you are smoking at night you are probably watching tv, playing games, or smoking with the lights on. These habits are known to lower your levels of melatonin that your brain creates and therefore prevent you from getting the necessary sleep that your body needs to refresh your body. In this case you are preventing the necessary healing and deep rem sleep that allows your body to recreate the natural chemicals that produce antioxidants. Mainly the suicidal antioxidant melatonin. This is the basis of the cause of cancer in America today. We sleep less at night, we leave the light s on longer and go to sleep with the tv's on. If you were to go to bed sooner, turn lights off earlier in the night and smoke all the pot u want through a filtered bong u will never have the issues that are said to be haunting the minds of worried pot heads all across the country.
So, go to bed sooner. When you go to bed don't watch tv, and when you smoke do so with your bong condom and you will be a happy, alert, and socially responsible member of our society.

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, or search google, but the first thing u find on google is always the propaganda. Learn to read the truth through the filter of a free human being. There is billions of dollars out there trying to turn marijuana into a bad thing. For if marijuana wasn't criminalized there would be no f@&$&@$ war on drugs( i.e. War on us)
FIGHT THE LIES! Sunlight is the best dissinfectant
I'm sorry if anyone hates politics but life is full of ruthless people that want to own u!
Bond together and fight the rich. It's time to kill the NWO and WTO . For who else would allow afghan'ies to grow poppies but not let the world use a harmless herb like marijuana. Awaken and take back you government!!! Kill if need b. But do it together and do it for freedom for all!! Not just the rich.

you really really really need to learn what your talking about and do some research. in a recent study it was proven that long time frequent cannabis smokers had a 66 percent LESS chance of getting cancer in the upper torso, neck (including larynx and Pharynx), and head regions. also try watching Cured: a cannabis story, or Running from the cure (all 7 parts.)

both can be found on youtube.

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I believe that weed has changed and not for the better . I have smoked it for 17 years and In recent years getting worse all the time iv been getting pain in my organs like liver spleen groin , this only happens with some breeds of weed and some resin but not with others . The problem is I don't know what I'm going to get until I smoke it but by then iv spent my cash and I'm stuck with it . My theory on all this is that the new generation of growers don't know what there doing 1st are the cross breeders who in trying to bread stronger cannabis have altered the old breads and dameged the amune system of the plants so that naw it is common for growers to have to use lots of chemicals and pesticides just to keep the plants alive and it is the new drug , with different DNA to older strains and full of chemicals that is making us sick and ILL . It is also possible that the cross breaders attempts at making strains with higher thc is raising thc to toxic levels , I was reading the other day how cannabis has 2 types of thc one of which can build up in the spleen and groin by binding to the body fats in the organs like spleen and liver , and I bet the young id**t cross breeders of today never even thort about things like that , or the amune system of the plant when cross breading in there attic's and grow rooms , no I bet all they ever think about is how to get higher thc and bigger buds . Well nice one growers naw your f*****g things up for all of us .

Bob Marley died from Melanoma, which is skin cancer, that progressed to other parts of his body. There are some conspiracy theories that this was given to him by the CIA after their failed assasination attempt, others point to a footballing accident combined with his caucasion genes from his father's side that put him at risk. Nobody, even the most ardent anti cannabis campaigner would try and say it is because he smoked weed. In fact, credible scientific evidence shows that Cannabis is an anti cancer substance and if Bob Marley had eaten activated cannabinoids (ie. Cannabis oil) then he would have almost certainly been cured. Cannabis can cure Cancer, this is now proven fact. To date, there are no proven negative health effects of consuming cannabis, even heavy consumption, even through smoking it. Despite the propaganda about cannabis, all genuine scientific studies have shown Cannabis to be one of the safest and most medicinal substances known to man. It is an unrivalled cure or control for Cancer (cure), Diabtetes, Asthma, Glucoma, MS, ME, Cerebal Paulsey, Alzheimers Disease and much more. Another important FACT to remember is that we (humans and all other animals, excluding insects) produce our own form of cannabis and have receptors in our own body specially designed to recieve cannabis (both from the plant aswell as the endo cannabinoids in our body). Endo cannabinoids we produce have the same effect as the cannabinoids from the plant have the same effect on our receptors, meaning that it is unlikely that there is any negative health effect to cannabis. Mothers milk contains endo cannabinoid to such a degree that for the first 6 days of breast feeding the baby will experience the "high". That is the facts, that is the truth. All these claims of "possible" dangers to cannabis are based on cherry picked data and comprimised "experts" serving corporations who have a monetary interest in keeping Cannabis as an illegal substance, despite the fact that it is natural and impossible to die from.

Im a 19 year old girl. i am open with my doctor about every aspect of my life, as we all should be. you cant hide anything from them... You can tell your doctor, its not an issue, its just like telling your doctor you smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol, they wont be all gun ho about it, but they wont turn you into the police as a drug addict, you can tell them you're shooting heroine (as long as you don't tell them you're trying to kill yourself with it) and they cant do anything about it. doctor patient confidentiality. they cant tell anyone without your permission. unless they think you are risking yours or someone else's lives. my doctors know i smoke marijuana. its not like its going to kill me. and they should know if you smoke, or drink or do any drugs because if they prescribe you anything, you want to be sure it isnt anything that will react with the marijuana, or alcohol or anything else that you do. 

Bob Marley was assassinated. A powerful carcinogen was placed on a sharp instrument placed within his shoe.

Smoking anything is almost certainly not good for you. However, there is an alternative for people who don’t want to smoke but still want to enjoy the effects of cannabis.

Cannabis can be added to a wide range of foods and drinks - everything from brownies to pot pasta and cannabis vodka! Using it this way is called “ingestion” and perhaps explains why ex – US president Clinton managed to “try it on several occasions but never inhaled”.

THC, the main psychoactive chemical found in cannabis, is soluble in non-polar liquids – bet you never knew that! What this means is that you can extract it into fats, oils and alcohol but not into water, in English, it doesn’t dissolve in water but does dissolve into fats and oils … or alcohol. Most recipes call for the manufacture of a certain quantity of marijuana (bud) butter, which is then used as butter would normally be used in a cooking situation.

Oh and yes, we have to remind you that eating it is just as illegal as smoking it, but it is a lot less obvious and so perhaps you’re less likely to get busted for possession of a cake than a hash pipe.

The potency of the finished product will be determined by the quality of the cannabis you started with. Stuff that doesn't get you high when smoked will not produce potent marijuana foods unless you use large quantities and concentrate any active ingredients.

The important thing to know about ingesting cannabis is that it takes a while to have any effect on you (30 minutes to 2 hours), due to the last time you ate, and how you eat the marijuana, it will last 4-10 hours. Eating marijuana’s effects are the same as smoking it, but often last 2-3 times longer, and usually require more marijuana than you would need while smoking it. If you eat a lot of marijuana food you can expect to easily be high all day, so if you have something important to do later, make sure you ration your food and don’t eat it all just cause you don’t feel it right away. Don’t eat cannabis without a little bit of planning, including where you are and who you’re with, the so-called “site and setting”.When prohibition ends, cannabis foods will no doubt be available in known doses, just like alcohol is today. Until then we have to live with this uncertainty.



Contamination

There is an additional problem caused by the prohibition (illegality) of cannabis

Cannabis which you grow yourself or which was grown by someone you know will be OK But it’s important to realise that cannabis is supplied by an illegal economy and the so called “black market” weed and hash may be very contaminated. Eating/drinking cannabis can be extremely dangerous due to the presence of contaminants and/or pathogens, given the high possibility of adulterants in imported cannabis, you should really think twice before using a nonsmoking method.

There is no reliable way to clean contaminated cannabis, for example, boot polish will survive and this will screw your liver in no time and may lead to permanent damage. If your grass comes from sprayed crops there’s nothing you can do about that. Crops in the producer countries are being sprayed by the US government (and probably by ours as well) with cancer causing herbicides.

Cooking at a high temperature will kill most pathogens, but maybe not all of them – if you crank up you’re oven too high you’ll nail the THC too… not to mention burning the brownies!

At the very least, NEVER eat street cannabis which hasn’t been cooked, e.g., hash which has just been crumbled up and sprinkled on a sandwich; you’ll probably be ok, but you might just end up with the runs – you could conceivably end up with hepatitis.

The obvious answer to all this is the end of Prohibition and the introduction of quality controls, but meanwhile please be careful regarding the eating/drinking method. It’s generally good advice not to buy cannabis supplied by organized crime, get to know someone who grows at home.