my name is joey im from phila,pa. iv bin on subz for 3 years now nd i goin to start getin off them soon. so im askin can any one out there tell me how long will i be sick for?? i was on 16mg now im on 8mg and its bin 3 years now. so dose anyone no how long the pain last?? any help out there??plz
Hey, good luck.
I am currently taking 6mg Suboxone. Slowly reducing from 12mg. I have been on them for about 18months so far. Before that I had done a withdrawal off methadone (which was the worst thing I have ever experienced) Although I never made to the end, I found after 3 weeks of cramps, aches, vomiting, restlessness and hot and cold sweats was too much. And stupidly found re-leaf in Heroine again. (I should point out that the methadone was substitute for heroine) After a week of using again I went back to my GP and told him what I had happened and he prescribed me the suboxone and said that they are a lot easier to withdraw from that methadone and heroine. I am now back to fearing the worst for what is going to come over the next few months. Just a tip without meaning to sound creepy ,but- When you get that horrible ache?pain in the stomach that is kind of a empty butterfly feeling (for me this is the worst thing about withdrawal) You can get rid of it by masturbation(sorry if that sounds to much) but it does work. Someone told me about it so I tried. Only thing is though its fine if its your usual opiate withdrawal (the one that last 7-10 days. But for the methadone it just went on to long and with all the fatigue and aches I found it impossible to anymore and my partner although very supportive, she wasn't happy about helping me at every beckon call. Anyway I hope you all can get to where you want to be. I know I am going to try as hard as I can possibly try including maybe taking a month off work and getting myself locked in a room (I am not going to take any chances this time)
Good luck again.
I am currently taking 6mg Suboxone. Slowly reducing from 12mg. I have been on them for about 18months so far. Before that I had done a withdrawal off methadone (which was the worst thing I have ever experienced) Although I never made to the end, I found after 3 weeks of cramps, aches, vomiting, restlessness and hot and cold sweats was too much. And stupidly found re-leaf in Heroine again. (I should point out that the methadone was substitute for heroine) After a week of using again I went back to my GP and told him what I had happened and he prescribed me the suboxone and said that they are a lot easier to withdraw from that methadone and heroine. I am now back to fearing the worst for what is going to come over the next few months. Just a tip without meaning to sound creepy ,but- When you get that horrible ache?pain in the stomach that is kind of a empty butterfly feeling (for me this is the worst thing about withdrawal) You can get rid of it by masturbation(sorry if that sounds to much) but it does work. Someone told me about it so I tried. Only thing is though its fine if its your usual opiate withdrawal (the one that last 7-10 days. But for the methadone it just went on to long and with all the fatigue and aches I found it impossible to anymore and my partner although very supportive, she wasn't happy about helping me at every beckon call. Anyway I hope you all can get to where you want to be. I know I am going to try as hard as I can possibly try including maybe taking a month off work and getting myself locked in a room (I am not going to take any chances this time)
Good luck again.
No offense intended but your doc and most docs are way off. The way to get off suboxone is to do it quickly. I was on oxycodone for years and years. I am 61. I even started higher than was told from another person. TWO MONTHS maximum. Try to start with 8 mg for four to five days... then to four.. then to 2 mg.... I am almost there. THANK GOD. The withdrawal will be there I know but not bad and I will have enough for little chips to get me through. The docs want you to keep coming back. It only takes five days to get the original opiate out of body and a few days or weeks of weakness depending on age and health ... but these docs just want to keep you coming back. There is no reason to stay on suboxone or subutex for more than one month or two max. You will just get more addicted. If you are serious about getting off drugs then please listen...... Now I am old and sick and did not want to feel anything so started with 16mg for five days... then took 4 off every four days.... You will not notice a difference other than in your wallet... really!
I was using Oxy's and Vics pretty hard for about a year. I knew I became dependent when I ran out and though oh well Ill just wait until the next script comes in. I was caught off guard of the W/D's, because I have never experienced anything like that before in my life. I went through w/d of the opiates pretty quick at first, but then the pills came in the mail and I was back at zero and until 3 weeks ago I was using just to avoid the scary withdraw. To get myself off of them I used suboxone for about a week then let go of the subs thinking I was okay after the first day of NO w/d's. The second day was killer then the third wasn't any fun either. Because I only used the sub for a short amount of time I think I was spared from the terrible length you guys are saying about sub withdraw. It does get better and you have to remember that tomorrow will never be like yesterday if you stay with it. One day at a time.
yes that is why I posted what I did. I am now down to 1.75 pills and by next week ready to quit the suboxone. If you taper taper taper quickly as possible, then use little chunks not saying will be rosey, but won't be bad. You need to be working with doc to have things to help.
oops please tell me how you tapered down. How long were you on opiates and how long the sub WD lasted. Thanks so much
i to was on subs for 4 years. didnt know anything about the drug except it could get me off oxys. worse medicine in the world! the doc i had just shut down his practice, gave me 3 refills and that was it. i decided to do the rapid detox where they put you under so you dont feel the worse of the wds. im on day 5 from that and still have the musle cramps and chicken skin feelings, but there not as bad. subs actually attach to your muscles and even your bones. i was told by the doctors at the rapid detox id have been alot better off just doin oxys. good luck to anyone on subs. i feel for you. if your thinkin of takin em DONT
Hello Everyone,
I would like to take the time to say I believe that this website is an amazing way for people to socialize when going through a diffacult time like this. Withdraw is no fun, but I truly believe that it helps (mentally) knowing that others are going through the fight, and that we are not alone.
My story is similar to alot of people's. I started with Oxycontin because my best friend offered it to me one night. At the time i thought it was the greatest thing in the entire world. I always thought there was no better feeling that nodding out and just not having a care in the world..untill Oxycontin went up in street price. So I did what any other addict would do; went to Herion. I showed my best friend the dope (since he showed me the oxy), and it was no turning back. We did make a promise to eachother though; we would never bang it. 4 years later I finally tried the needed, and boy was it amazing. After shooting 5 times, i took a real hard look in the mirror and asked myself what have i done with the true me? At that point, i knew it was time to do something.
My best friend was perscribed to suboxone, but would sell half and keep half - He could get high, and still have a back up for no w/d. I started buying his other half, and only getting high sometimes. After about 3 or 5 months of doing that, him and i made a pact that it was time to stop for good. Since that day 7 months ago, we have been clean.
I ended up getting perscribed to suboxone, and since that time i have gotten a FANTASTIC job, finished my college degree, and im making great money. Finally moved out of the house, live in a beautiful aparment and im getting my head on straight! I am perscribed to 8mg's per day. I really think it's time however to make the taper. I want to be off for good. After reading all these stories about the kick, I believe i have enough information to do this the right way.
Everyone - We can do it. Stay active, take multi vitimins, sleep aids; this is possible. It truely is a small a small price to pay to be "normal" again. If you look back at the things you did to get drugs, and look at yourselves now that you are clean and are really trying to make a difference, it should make you the happiest person in the world because you arent "that guy" anymore. I did everything from steal from my parents debit cards, to taking credit cards and maxing them out. I was the s**m of the earth. But now that i have a chance, theres no turning back. Stay strong everyone. If you need someone to talk to me, please respond to the post and i'll give you my e-mail. All we need is eachother, and one day at a time we will get better. STAY STRONG!
I would like to take the time to say I believe that this website is an amazing way for people to socialize when going through a diffacult time like this. Withdraw is no fun, but I truly believe that it helps (mentally) knowing that others are going through the fight, and that we are not alone.
My story is similar to alot of people's. I started with Oxycontin because my best friend offered it to me one night. At the time i thought it was the greatest thing in the entire world. I always thought there was no better feeling that nodding out and just not having a care in the world..untill Oxycontin went up in street price. So I did what any other addict would do; went to Herion. I showed my best friend the dope (since he showed me the oxy), and it was no turning back. We did make a promise to eachother though; we would never bang it. 4 years later I finally tried the needed, and boy was it amazing. After shooting 5 times, i took a real hard look in the mirror and asked myself what have i done with the true me? At that point, i knew it was time to do something.
My best friend was perscribed to suboxone, but would sell half and keep half - He could get high, and still have a back up for no w/d. I started buying his other half, and only getting high sometimes. After about 3 or 5 months of doing that, him and i made a pact that it was time to stop for good. Since that day 7 months ago, we have been clean.
I ended up getting perscribed to suboxone, and since that time i have gotten a FANTASTIC job, finished my college degree, and im making great money. Finally moved out of the house, live in a beautiful aparment and im getting my head on straight! I am perscribed to 8mg's per day. I really think it's time however to make the taper. I want to be off for good. After reading all these stories about the kick, I believe i have enough information to do this the right way.
Everyone - We can do it. Stay active, take multi vitimins, sleep aids; this is possible. It truely is a small a small price to pay to be "normal" again. If you look back at the things you did to get drugs, and look at yourselves now that you are clean and are really trying to make a difference, it should make you the happiest person in the world because you arent "that guy" anymore. I did everything from steal from my parents debit cards, to taking credit cards and maxing them out. I was the s**m of the earth. But now that i have a chance, theres no turning back. Stay strong everyone. If you need someone to talk to me, please respond to the post and i'll give you my e-mail. All we need is eachother, and one day at a time we will get better. STAY STRONG!
i take one suboxone and make it last 3 weeks, thats how little im on but still face hardcore withdrawals when trying to stop. family dont believe me that i only take crumbs -i mean crumbs broke down to more crumbs and still cant beat it. im on clonazapam ,seroquel - these are heavy sleep meds but dont touch the withdrawal.. this is crazy
Depends on what and how long. I was on opiates for forty years. I am four weeks now on suboxone. Started on 20 mg.... after two weeks and stable went to 16, four days later 12.... the trick is to do it fast..... it only takes five days to get the OTHER opiate out..... The trick is NOT to take the Suboxone for a long time. The docs will have you on it forever. Hope that helped. One person gave me schedule like this, but I am doing my own
8 5 days
4 5 days
2 5 days
then chip... for me, too old and too long on opiates so staying on dose until stable then cutting down. I know I took the 20 mg for too long....... Each time I lower my dose by a quarter and I just get a little sick, not even dope sick... hope this helps. read here the best is 5 weeks. For me that would not work.
8 5 days
4 5 days
2 5 days
then chip... for me, too old and too long on opiates so staying on dose until stable then cutting down. I know I took the 20 mg for too long....... Each time I lower my dose by a quarter and I just get a little sick, not even dope sick... hope this helps. read here the best is 5 weeks. For me that would not work.
hummmmm says I am guest. I logged in and see my post was not clear.
I can only say what is working for me.. I was on 150 mg oxycodone for years
started 2/24 with 20 mg subutex
did that one month
now every time I get stable I cut back one quarter pill.... last one was hard from only 14 mg down to 10.... so blew it and took quarter... now back on program and going to do it as I said..... 2 mg at a time when I get stable. I know it isn't going to be fun but it will be worth it.
I can only say what is working for me.. I was on 150 mg oxycodone for years
started 2/24 with 20 mg subutex
did that one month
now every time I get stable I cut back one quarter pill.... last one was hard from only 14 mg down to 10.... so blew it and took quarter... now back on program and going to do it as I said..... 2 mg at a time when I get stable. I know it isn't going to be fun but it will be worth it.
I should have known better. I am sure there are a few of you here that can sympathize with my plight. I have had an addictive personality for my whole life. Really got in a lot of trouble in my 20's, got my life back together in my 30's. Now about 5 years ago I started having surgeries about once a year to repair a very badly damaged left shoulder joint. The pain was bad enough that they gave me OXY. Opana, and so many other drugs that it was ridiculous. I blame the medical industry, and especially the pharmaceutical industry for the creation and profit seeking of Suboxone. It is NOT a miracle drug! It is just the same wolf in sheep's clothing. Just like I thought that SUB would help me stop my consumption of opiates and soften the landing, I also believed that the oxy's the DR was proscribing were good for me too! Now not only is the Pharmaceutical industry making money off of the OXY epidemic, but they are making BANK on all the Suboxone Clinics that are sprouting up all over the country in mass! The Insurance companies have already said they are not going to cover it because it will be an epidemic they cant afford. Laws need to be passed to the effect that if you are on OXY, you should be in a Hospital BED and monitored. Allowing people to arbitrarily take whatever they think they need is an RX for Disaster! I am on day 9 of Suboxone and the symptoms are not as bad as cold turkey, but they are unpleasant. I am hoping for a breakthrough in the near future, as I see a lot of people saying 14-21 days of this. WOW, so much for the soft landing that SUB Promised! The only soft landing is for the Pharmaceutical companies that make money either way. WOW we have all been DUPED.
After reading all of these and I don't get why sometimes I am listed as guest and sometimes as PSsalgal.. but now I am really afraid. I am down to 8 mg subox and the doc finally told me I may have to be on forever. That is so sh*****. I cannot handle withdrawals. DARN. I did not do drugs to get high. I am 61 and broke things and have hepc and fibro and got addicted to oxy.......
ANYONE.. have you withdrawn from suboxen completely? I'm really thinking it would be better to go back to the pain pills. The suboxone wrecks my mouth and does NOT make me feel good.
Please anyone who has withdrawn completely from suboxone please tell your story. Thanks
ANYONE.. have you withdrawn from suboxen completely? I'm really thinking it would be better to go back to the pain pills. The suboxone wrecks my mouth and does NOT make me feel good.
Please anyone who has withdrawn completely from suboxone please tell your story. Thanks
I am on day 14 of no suboxone. I woke up this morning with the stomach cramps just like every morning. However they tend to lessen over the day and with a new Medicine Dexilant for the stomach problems, the cramping is not as bad. Also I have been using Zanax to lessen the impact of other side effects to good use. CAREFUL, the XANAX is also addictive. It really helps though and is easier to kick than ANY Opiate. I seem to be gaining strength back slowly and feel less tired as the days go on. I am hoping the cramps will eventually go away and the gut troubles eventually pass. A good thing to do is use a fiber supplement like Citrucel in combination with ZINC pills to help get rid of the bloated feeling and help you get back to being regular. I have kicked a lot of habits. As most of you, I have a VERY addictive personality. Oxycoton was the VERY WORSE dopesickness I have ever experienced in my life. Makes any street drug except Heroine (which I never tried thankfully) seem almost harmless in comparison. It took 4 months of Sub and a lot of self maintenance to stay on the right path. But I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. DONT GIVE UP!
I was taking 60mg of oxy or hydro a day for about 2yrs. I tryed one 8mg subingual film sub this past January because I was curious and also knew I wanted to get clean soon, (I cut in half and took half under my tongue and then the other half 36hrs later), only to return to blues 36hrs after the second half of sub. This time, about 3months later I did the same exact thing with one sub and I'm 12days since the last half and 9days into withdrawals; so actually the last half of sub (4mgs) lasted 3days. As for the wd symptoms, they suck! but not nearly as bad as wds from oxy/hydro so whatever i guess from everything ive read here and there I'll be feeling better in a few more days. Thanks for all the reading and research material and what I've gotten out of all this is: 1.) Suboxone will save your life,
2.) withdrawal symptoms are 2 or 3 timez longer than oxys or hydros and 3.) the wd symptoms from subs are not near as bad. Peace
2.) withdrawal symptoms are 2 or 3 timez longer than oxys or hydros and 3.) the wd symptoms from subs are not near as bad. Peace