suboxone withdrawal: how long is this going to last...I'm mi

I fogot to add I also have clonidine left over from when I got off of dope and it does actually help with the mental part for me just because it has helped me control the cold sweats/chills. It is just a blood pressure med that doctors will give you for withdraw symptom. Well I hope this does something. I will get on in a couple days or so for feeling better updates.

Hey there, welcome! So when you say body aches do you mean muscles? I have mentioned this before, but for me this piece of information has made a world of difference. When in withdrawal, your body is dehydrated, which will eventually starve your muscles/nerves of electrolytes, which makes them say 'ouch'! Make sure your drinking more than plain water, and take supplements magnesium/potassium, like every 6-8 hours and I promise the muscle cramps will subside. Sometimes I doubled either the mg or potassium or both and usually within a half hour I noticed a big difference. Also..as far as sleep goes..we all understand how that goes! I have had some luck with things like valerian root or passion flower, natural remedies. Also, surprisingly, lecithin makes me sleepy, and it is supposed to help the CNS. Make sure to get the muscle cramps under control first, before going to bed or that will keep you up. I am on day 18 myself. The acute symptoms are gone, but the post acute symptoms are pretty severe(lethargy/depression/anxiety/insomnia etc.). Anyway, hope I helped and try the supplements for muscle cramps while drinking some good electrolyte filled fluids. It will make a huge difference.

Yes 'odd' lol...Not sure what time. I just remember it was Wed, Mar 20, 2013. I just remembered I worked that day, so maybe mid-day I cut a little sliver of a 2mg and that was it. Holy cow - cant believe you mentioned the You Tube videos. I finally watched this weekend. What ever happened to that cute kid? He like made the videos and never came back. He was adorable. So funny. Im watching the video going "he's so my type" LOL meanwhile the guy is on day 5 of Sub WD and a disaster. I wish I had the guts to make a You Tube video but I have to hide my identity due to my work. Keep trying to eat, drink a lot of fluids and take vitamins. I cannot beleive how great I feel today. Today is day 19. Is it possible that its almost over? God I hope so!!! My legs still ache and I have fatigue but NOTHING like the beginning!!!! How are you feeling today???

Wow. It's really amazing how when you write, I relate to you so much. I considered taking a vic when things were rough and I didnt. I was SO CLOSE! I really hope your knee feels better. Thats like all you need now is an injury. I got my "time of the month" and I thought I was gonna die. WD and dealing w that. I felt like it was day 3-6. I felt like giving in. But anyone who reads these posts, if you make it past the first week, keep going and dont look back. Its amazing that the WD's subside and I cannot wait until their gone. I think Im day 19. So anyway, I listened to that song and thats not my thing I guess. I'm sorry. Im a hit or miss w rock. I like house music (techno), rap/R&B, some rock I really love, but not all. I actually went out Sat night to a crazy ass club (thought i was in vegas lol) and danced from 11pm to 4am and felt like a million dollars. I was a little hungover yesterday and am back at work today and feel great. I feel like 100% but I know that cant be. In my mind I am thinking I got so many toxins out by dancing my ass off so many hours. Who knows? I am def kicking butt and love that we all come here to be there for each other. I dont know how I wouldve gotten thru without you guys here. I did not picture feeling this good when I felt the lowest in my life 2 weeks ago. AMAZING!!! I hope Jess is OK. Jess, we're here for you whenever you're ready. Purr, how long since you kicked it?? I forget.

Glad you're feelin tip top. Be careful with the alcohol. I've gone back to opiates and other items after getting a good buzz.

I will. Thank you. I know wasnt the smartest thing to write that I drank, but was too late after I posted to remove it.
I never really had issues with alcohol but realize everything goes hand in hand. How are you JoJo?

LL, What are you drinking for electrolytes? Just curious. I went to buy Potassium vitamins and they only had Potassium Gluconate & there was all sorts of stuff not to take unless you consult w Dr, so then I was trying to eat foods w high potassium instead. I am taking Magnesium. Great advice. There are some days that are better than others but I do all sorts of different home remedies, I dont know why I feel good some days and feel like c**p the others. I researched RLS home remedies one day because my legs were on fire and I wanted to try anything. Ive been a maniac getting all sorts of other supplements, I couldnt tell you whats working and whats not, but its all positive stuff so something seems to be working or a combination of my new routine.

Dina, Potassium Gluconate is the same thing as potassium supplements. Some potassium supplements might say to consult with a doctor because a potassium overdose is incredibly dangerous(in many states where they have the death penalty...a potassium overdose is used for it). However, it is nearly impossible to overdose on oral potassium unless a healthy/not dehydrated person is taking really excessive amounts. Too low of potassium is just as dangerous as too high. When you were having acute symptoms, did you seem to have a completely full bladder every few hours, whether you drank anything or not? I think the kidneys are getting rid of a lot of water and with that comes the major electrolytes like sodium/potassium. Sodium is high in most foods and drinks and usually isn't a problem, but when someone is having excessive voiding and diarrhea, potassium is recommended. I am glad to hear you are eating potassium foods, you are probably absorbing it better that way. The supplements will give a bigger boost to take care of the cramping. Well, anyway hope that helps.

Im on day 2 with no subs. I'm taking .5 milligrams every 3days.  I'm going to do that for 2 more weeks then for take one last dose and be done. This taper plan is doing prettywell so far.  I don't feel great but I'm getting by

 

Jeremy

 I have just read many of the posts t with tears of gratitude for all of these accounts that so vividly match my own experience. I am on day 5 after jumping from 1mg. I was on 24mg for over 10 years and just like many of you I thought I would begin to feel better by now. My doctor said that I shouldn't have ANY withdrawal symptoms (that's complete c**p). He's not the one who prescribed for a decade, he's only the one monitoring my detox and doesn't even know me. I almost let his judgement of me ruin my self-esteem. I found myself thinking that I could try to find another doctor who wouldn't tell me on the first day that I met him that I would have a hard time because I was an addict. Nice vote of confidence.  Anyway, I really wanted to ask if anyone has had a serious need for doing things that produce adrenaline rushes. Like driving fast, music, increased sexual appetite, anything to release endorphins. I'm sometimes worried that I have made some really stupid, sober decisions due to my need to get this burning fire out from deep within my muscles. 

Thank you. That info is really helpful. I am getting the muscle cramping back. I know its because I am sitting at a desk all day & not doing much exercise at all. Hope you're having a good day!

Let me know how that taper plan works for you. I totally shouldve done that but I was all concerned w time off of work and stuff. One day without even a tiny bit of Sub I would lose my mind, so I guess you're really doing something right. Good luck & please let us know how you're doing!

Yeah your doctor sounds like another jerk off. Did you get prescribed Clonidine or anything like that? I really does help after the worst parts of WD like w the hot/cold sweats. I really hope you have that prescription. And yes, you need positive adrenaline rushes to push your mind. I couldnt believe how different I felt after I went for a drive and blasted my music (I didnt speed though cause I felt like I was lost), crazy sex, exercise, dance, whatever works for you. It def helps push thru the time you are at now. Try to take LL's advice w the Magnesium/Potassium. It does help w muscle cramping if you have that. Good luck!!

I've said this before but anyone looking to get off suboxone please check out the withdrawal ease website. Click on George's blog on the left and it will describe to u in depth on how to correctly taper from suboxone. I trust this guy because he was an addict himself that got hooked because of a neck surgery. He then helped design the withdrawal ease medicine and designed this nice taper plan for suboxone. I'm on the last 2 weeks of my taper plan and have had minor withdrawals but nothing major. I didn't take the withdrawal ease but I took my own formula of supplements to help. Testosterone pills, multi vitamins, calciumd-magnesium pilss, andno explode by bsn products. I just take the no explode before I go lift weights. Also if uhave access to a sauna I highly recommend it. Sweating out bad toxins is awesome and u feel so much better afterwards.  Also as others have mentioned eating healthy is crucial. I eat tons of bananas and oranges. Diet is so important in our recovery. Early in my taper process I had the state of mind I wanted to be in excellent shape by the time I was going to make the jump. I have achieved that and it has helped big time.  Right now I just took .5 milligrams and won't take another dose until Friday.  Before today's dose I hadn't took any sense Saturday.  That's around 72 hours between doses. Seems like this taper plan slowly conditions your brain to adjust to life without suboxone. Now with the 37 hour half life it is crucial in the end that we skip days.  But I know the worst for me is yet to come but by the time I make the jump I'll be fully prepared. I've already tasted a little of what the withdrawals are going to be like by going so long in between doses but I should be fine. If one person reads this message and gets help from it or learns from it I will be so happy. I truly want to help others get off this c**p.  This drug should just be for people that can't stay out of jail   Not for us that got addicted by surgeries or just plain partying too much. But I hope I have helped and God bless u all

Jeremy

Jeremy, I just had to reply in case anyone else had the same problems as I did with the taper plan. I CANT do it to save my freakin life! I am positive I was using the exact same taper plan you are referring to. Unfortunately, it really put into perspective the amount of self control I do NOT have. I would follow it a week, maybe two. Then I would have a rough day, and take a little extra. Then the next day I would take more and before I knew it I was taking even more than I was actually prescribed. So then I would get back on track, but the endless cycle continued. It was slow torture in my case. I am very proud of you if you can follow this plan without going off course. I think I did the right thing, albeit a painful choice, to just end the torture and stop suboxone completely. If you can follow the taper plan, you will have mild symptoms that probably won't last as long but everyone is different. I used to really envy the people I worked with, that can wake up, go to work and face the days challenges without a drug. I want to be that person so badly I couldn't wait any longer. So that is another part of the reason the taper plan didn't fit. I am happy for you, either way we are all trying to stop suboxone and be normal again.